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<p>7 miles this morning.  Wanted to go for 8, but just didn't have it.</p>
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<p>On a different note, today is exactly one year since my horrible fall which landed me bleeding and broken 3 miles from home.  So, at least my 7-miler was an improvement over last year's run.</p>
 
<p>Morning Gang -</p>
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<p>Hope <strong>Jill</strong> is having fun at the Labor Pain ultra relay today!</p>
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<p>Good luck to the 20k racers tomorrow!</p>
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<p>It was 41 and sunny on the North Shore today.  Absolutely gorgeous morning for a run.  Got 11 miles done with 5 at MP.  Was hoping for tempo miles but we did a 3 mile hike to top of Carlton Peak yesterday and my legs were too tired today to run fast. </p>
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<p>That seemed like the never ending long run.</p>
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<p>  7 alone</p>
<p>1.5 with Gus</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">+ 2 alone </span></p>
<p>10.5 for the day.</p>
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<p>The last time past the golf course I saw a 4some tee-ing off dressed very much like this</p>
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<p>New Haven today, right? Go Go GO Racers! </p>
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<p>I'm heading out for 10 miles.  I ran 12 yesterday at about marathon pace, not really intentional.  It felt like an okay pace, not too uncomfortable, so I stuck with it. But I took a route that had a couple of stoplights that I had to stop and wait for and I ran in to the gym at the 7 mile mark to badge in for an incentive credit. (I am totally going to hit the mark for the extra deduction in monthly gym dues this quarter.  SWEET!)  So I had some stops and starts.  Anyway, I'm going to shoot for a slower easier pace today.  But I better get going if I'm going to beat the thunderstorms that are heading this way.  SUPAH glad I got the grass cut yesterday!</p>
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<p>Happy Labor Day!</p>
 
<p>18.7 miles done.  Supposed to be 20 but the rain that hit me about the 9 mile mark started to have some lightning in it.  20 is a nice, but it ain't worth dying for...Today I was about 30 seconds per mile faster than my 20 miler last week.  Shows you what a difference temps in the low 60s makes.</p>
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<p>Luck to the New Haven folks!</p>
 
<p>Hi guys.  I'm back to my parents' house after the New Haven 20k.  It was great to see <span style="color:#006400;"><strong>Maria</strong></span> for a little bit.  We only ran together for about 2 miles because we lost each other at the first aid station.  <strong><span style="color:#006400;">Maria</span></strong> didn't have the greatest run, and I'll let her describe that when she can.  But the most important thing is that she's fine and she'll live to run anothe day.</p>
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<p>My run was okay.  Last year, I ran this race in 1:36:46.  According to my Garmin, I made it today in 1:36:59.  So I missed a PR by a little bit.  I was really hoping to get a new PR by a couple minutes.  So that's a little disappointing.  But meh.  I really just wasn't feeling it today.  Multiple times I tried to drop the hammer and pick up the pace, but I just couldn't do it.  At least not until the final stretch run.  The good news is that I kept a fairly consistent pace throughout the whole race.  My splits were: 8;11, 7:58, 7:56, 7:45, 7:54, 7:48, 7:49, 7:52, 7:53, 7:57, 7:30, 7:21, (6:42).  Not too bad, but just not quite what I wanted.  Meh, I'll take it.</p>
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<p>As you guys know, I grew up in this town.  My high school is located in New Haven, and 2010 is the school's 350th anniversary.  (It's the second-oldest high school in the U.S., after Boston Latin, which is located across the street from Fenway Park in Boston).  The title sponsor of the New Haven race is a law firm, whose founder is a graduate of my high school.  So they made a big deal about this anniversary.  I got a free tech shirt from the booth my school had set up, which is nice.  About 200 current students and alums ran either the 20k or the 5k, which seems like a good number for a school that's only got about 100 kids per class.  We took a big group picture with everybody.  Unfortunately, I didn't see a single person that I recognized.  I guess the Class of '89 is just too fat and lazy to run a race.  <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/cool.gif" style="width:16px;height:16px;" title=""></p>
 
<p>Nice run KP and nice bike workout Tonya.</p>
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<p>Bob - congrats on a strong race!  I know you wanted a PR, but that looks like a mighty fine race to me!</p>
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<p>(((((((Maria))))))))</p>
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<p>I usually take Mondays off of running, but given the nice temps, it was hard to justify slacking.  I was moving slow thanks to too much wine with good friends last night, but I was able to put 8 miles in the books.  That rounds off to just over 62 miles in the last calendar week, which is huge compared to my training weeks during the last several months.</p>
 
<p>This thread keeps eating my posts...this is a test.</p>
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<p>ok, now I'll try to edit.   C25K W5D1 for me today, plus some stretching and core work.  </p>
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<p>Great race Bob.  ((Maria)) and great workouts RIL, KP, Tonya and people on Page 1.  I'm chicken to flip back.</p>
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<p>More later!</p>
 
<p>Nice workouts today! And racing! </p>
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<p>I ran my 10 but I wasn't slower. It was about the same as yesterday. <strong>QUESTION:</strong>  How bad is it to run long and middle-long runs too fast?  According to McMillan my LR pace should be 10:26-11:26 and Hal Higdon emphasizes how important it is to run your long runs slow.  I don't try to run my 20 milers at a 10:00 pace but the 12 miler yesterday and the 10 miler today were both at about 10:00 which is actually about what my marathon pace would be for a goal time of 4:20.  I don't feel like I'm working too hard, but it's not super easy either.  It's comfortably okay.  I hope it feels that way on race day.</p>
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<p>Next weekend is my last 20 miler!  Seems like it went so fast. 27 days until race day!</p>
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<p>Isn't the slower pace supposed to help build your endurance?</p>
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<p>That said, my long runs are always around 10s too Goon, although I guess my race pace is more in the 8:50-8:55 range. <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/dontknow.gif" title=""></p>
 
<p><strong>Goon</strong> - I often run easy runs slow (which for me lately is 9:20s - 9:40s - a little slower than I'd like), but I always try to pick it up some for long runs and be around the 8:40-9:10 range.  That said, my goal marathon race pace is around 7:55ish.  In short, I like long runs close to a minute per mile slower than race pace.  But that is also because there is NO WAY I could run my long runs (every week) at marathon pace without having serious training setbacks.  So generally, I run most runs slow, long runs at a steady pace, and then tempos/speed work.</p>
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<p>Interesting topic.  How 'bout everyone else?</p>
 
<p>Good evening all and Happy Labor Day!  I hope everyone had a great weekend and got to spend lots of time with their running, family and friends  ;)   J and I had a great time in Vermont hiking and boating and eating and drinking and hiking a bit more.   New Haven felt like the last in a series of "down" moments in this training cycle and I'm just not sure I'm cool with continuing to push at it.   We'll see. </p>
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<p>Great job to everyone on their LRs and to <strong>boB's</strong> 20K, <strong>Litch's</strong> 5K and <strong>Tonya's</strong> open water swim!  Any word from <strong>Alexis</strong> on her TRI?</p>
 
<p>Hey ya kids,</p>
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<p>Nice weekend of workouts and races!  :)</p>
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<p>I got in an hour run this afternoon.  1 Wait Wait and 1/2 of a Car Talk.  Headed to the neighbor's for a cookout now...</p>
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<p>Leaving on a jet plane in the morning, bound for Michigan and points south.</p>
 
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