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Just found out yesterday that Starbucks' reduced fat fruit swirl is like 8 Weight Watchers points! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/shock.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Shock"> Heck their lowest point snack is like 7 points and my favorite Starbucks food crack the tripple chocolate chip cookie is off the scale! Owchie.<br><br>
I think I need to up my mileage. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Sad">
 

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How much does it suck to find out a reduced fat drink (is it a drink?) is still high in calories?<br><br>
I feel this way when I look at the calorie count of Ben & Jerry's "light" ice creams.
 

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The Caramel Frappacino Light isn't bad. I looked in the big Starbucks book they have. Like 145 cals I think. And since it uses splenda, it's not as bad as it could be in sugar. Of course, when I add the whip cream on top, it's all negated.
 

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yeah, i have had to cut myself off from the whipped cream on my mocha light frappacinos...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Sad">
 

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you have to be careful with their caramel drinks (other than the frap's), though. the caramel syrup has butter in it. that can't be light.<br><br>
And Mr. T, I sympathize! I used to eat the maple oat nut scone every day for breakfast.
 

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that's like reduced fat muffins that are still ike a gazillion calories <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Sad">
 

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This is why I make a lot of stuff from scratch, so I can further regulate what goes in it. It's more trouble but gives you greater control over things.
 

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I always get the sugar free caramel. I don't think it has any cals? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Confused">
 

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Muzicgrl, are you getting a sugar-free caramel macchiato with non-fat milk? If so, they're using sugar free vanilla syrup vs reg vanilla syrup, then pouring that highly fattening caramel sauce (that has butter in it) all over it. At least, that's how it was when I was a Starbucks fiend years ago. So while you miss a few calories w/ the sugar-free vanilla and there's no fat in the milk, the caramel is bad news.<br><br>
You may want to ask them to show you the box they receive the caramel sauce in, and check out the ingredients. On the bright side, if it is still bad, you can always switch to sugar-free vanilla non-fat lattes. That will be an instant fat/calorie reduction! I lost a few pounds that way.
 

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how do you people think caramel is made? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/confused1.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="confused1">
 

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I know how it is normally made, but they now have suger free caramel at starbucks (I discovered it last spring) and it is listed on their website as having no cals. I am sure it is just a bunch of chemicals, but oh well.<br><br>
Diablita: No its a caramel latte...not a machiatto.
 

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They are probably using caramel flavored sugar free syrup, not real caramel. That's what we used at the coffee shop I worked for when someone wanted sugar free.
 

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ok. When I was a Starbucks addict, the only sugar-free syrup flavors were vanilla and hazelnut. So if you're getting sugar-free syrup, then you're right. They use no calorie sweeteners. And no butter!
 

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Once upon a time, I used to go to Starbucks and order a caramel macchiato, no foam, with extra caramel.<br><br>
Sometimes I'd have the toffee bar, too.<br><br>
Ah, the good ol' days.<br><br>
Something low-cal and sweet (but artificial) that I like is the Tazo Awake (black) tea with sugar-free vanilla and hazlenut flavors added.
 
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