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<p>McDonald's looking to hire 50,000 on April 19.</p>
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Their votes count just as much as the liberal rocket scientists...  and you can bet Team Obama will count them as jobs created as further proof the economy is turning around.<br>
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what I really meant was that flippin burgers would be the only jobs left in America after the tea party is through...</p>
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Their votes count just as much as the liberal rocket scientists...<br>
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 You think the Republicans won't count them as part of their economic strategy to put Americans back to work with meaningful jobs?   I can hear Ryan Paul and Boehner now showcasing McDonald's as the symbol of their success by keeping taxes on the wealthy low and raising them on medicare and medicaid recipients.  Come to think of it, maybe that's who will be serving those burgers and fries so they can afford their medications.<br>
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Their votes count just as much as the liberal rocket scientists...  and you can bet Team Obama will count them as jobs created as further proof the economy is turning around.<br>
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<p>Yeah, the Tea Party has some kooks and they often go a bit too far.  But it seems to me as though they're the only people out there who have any desire at all to balance a budget or put any kind of fiscal sanity in place.  Right now everybody in Washington is fighting over some paltry amount like $30 Billion while the country has a $14 Trillion defecit??  Just sign something!  Who gives a crap what it is at this point?!?  Whichever side gets their wish, it won't be nearly good enough. </p>
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<p>Obama, most Congressional Democrats, and plenty of Congressional Republicans are more interested in avoiding tough budget issues.  They'd all just rather punt the problems down the road, like most of the polticians before them did.  Doesn't somebody sooner or later have to come in and have the balls to make some tough decisions?? </p>
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<p>Right now, it looks like the only person on the national scene that's willing to do that -- and doesn't appear to be a kook -- is Paul Ryan.  Hopefully the rest of the weasles in Washington can stop their finger-pointing long enough to work with him.</p>
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<p>Thankfully there are some governors (in both parties) who seem willing to tackle some of these issues now:  Christie, Cuomo, Walker, Browne, Kasich, etc.  Why can't we have some nationally elected officials like them?</p>
 

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<p>There'll be a lot of federal employees filling those spots.</p>
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<p>Even though we may be <em>under</em>-qualified.   <span id="user_yui_3_3_0_8_130220280732335"><img alt="smile.gif" id="user_yui_3_3_0_8_130220280732334" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif" style="width:16px;height:16px;"></span></p>
 

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  The "Tea" party has no more interest in balancing the budget than any other party. They are interested in only two things - reducing the taxes they pay as much as they can (ideally to zero, but some of them have enough sense to recognize that isn't possible), and reducing as much as possible the government's ability to prevent them from doing whatever they want whenever they want without regard to their responsibilities to and the rights of others. I have seen no willingness to address the revenue side of the budget equation, and I've seen no willingness to debate the merits of the programs they want to cut. I'm not even sure they have a list of programs they want to cut - it looks like they just want to cut spending by some arbitrary amount and leave it up to the rest of us to figure out how the few paltry remaining dollars are allocated.<br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>GatorBob</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/73320/would-y-all-like-fries-with-that#post_1993075"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>Yeah, the Tea Party has some kooks and they often go a bit too far.  But it seems to me as though they're the only people out there who have any desire at all to balance a budget or put any kind of fiscal sanity in place. </p>
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<p>The unfortunate thing about a possible federal shutdown is that Members of Congress are not considered non-essential employees.  They will still get their paychecks, medical and other benefits while the country burns. </p>
 

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<p><a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/07/will-members-of-congress-get-paid-in-a-shutdown/" target="_blank">http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/07/will-members-of-congress-get-paid-in-a-shutdown/</a></p>
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<p>At least some on both sides are trying to go without pay...</p>
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<p><em>House Speaker <a class="tickerized" href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/john_a_boehner/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank" title="More articles about John A. Boehner.">John Boehner</a> said flatly Thursday morning that he and his colleagues should not get paid during a shutdown.</em></p>
<p><em>“Members of Congress are elected by their constituents. If there is a government shutdown not only will Congress not be paid, but federal employees will not be paid,” Mr. Boehner said on ABC’s “Good Morning America” program. “They shouldn’t be getting paid. Just like federal employees shouldn’t be getting paid.”</em></p>
<p><em>It’s not that easy, of course. In order for lawmakers to cut off their paychecks during a shutdown, there would have to be agreement on some legislation to do that — and agreement is the very thing that seems to be missing in the Capitol these days.</em></p>
<p><em>When ABC’s <a class="tickerized" href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/george_stephanopoulos/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank" title="More articles about George Stephanopoulos.">George Stephanopoulos</a> noted that Congress has so far not passed legislation to stop Congressional pay during a shutdown, Mr. Boehner said “we’ll have to take a look at that. I’m not sure that that’s entirely accurate.”</em></p>
<p><em>In fact, the Senate last month unanimously passed a bill that would eliminate pay for lawmakers but the bill has stalled in the House. Meanwhile, the House version of the budget bill — the one that is at the heart of the disagreement that could lead to a shutdown — also includes such language. But if there’s a shutdown, it will be because the bill didn’t pass — and neither will the provision restricting Congressional pay.</em></p>
<p><em>Senator <a class="tickerized" href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/barbara_boxer/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank" title="More articles about Barbara Boxer.">Barbara Boxer</a>, Democrat of California, <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/02/hit-them-where-it-hurts-senate-dems-say-lawmakers-should-not-be-paid-if-government-shutdown-occurs.html" target="_blank">said in a press conference several weeks ago</a> that not getting paid might help induce compromise among the nation’s lawmakers.</em></p>
<p><em>“We should feel the pain,” Boxer said in late February. “And we hope that this is such a simple piece of legislation and so fair that it’ll make people think, ‘Gee, maybe I ought to work a little harder at compromising and finding that common ground.’”</em></p>
<p><em>She added: “The point is to say if we – members of Congress – fail in our responsibility to act like grown-ups and get this thing moving forward, we’re going to pay a price just like other people are.”</em></p>
<p><em>On Thursday morning, Senator Joe Manchin, Democrat of West Virginia, <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/154495-manchin-wants-obama-lawmakers-to-give-back-pay-during-shutdown?utm_campaign=briefingroom&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterfeed" target="_blank">released an open letter</a> promising to donate his salary to charity (or return it to the treasury) and calling on others to do the same.</em></p>
<p><em>“If the government shuts down, I will take this pledge, and I urge you all – from the President and Vice President to all Members of Congress – to take it with me,” Manchin said in the letter to his colleagues. “I will forego my federal salary until we reach an agreement. I will donate my salary to charity or return it to the Treasury until the government works again.”</em></p>
<p><em>That tactic might pick up some steam if the budget stalemate continues and a shutdown looms. It’s unclear whether that kind of voluntary action would be enough for voters, who could still resent the fact that lawmakers have a choice while federal employees do not.</em></p>
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<p>Nice talk out of both sides of Boehner's mouth.  Reality is he knows he gets paid whether or not the government shuts down.  I'll even bet his government check is electronically deposited.  What he says for ABC news consumption for what are reality are two different things.</p>
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<p>If Boehner wanted Congressional members not to get paid if other federal employees don't during a government shutdown, why didn't he put that before his House Colleagues for a vote?</p>
 

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<p>If Boehner wanted Congressional members not to get paid if other federal employees don't during a government shutdown, why didn't he put that before his House Colleagues for a vote?</p>
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From what I understand, it <strong>is</strong> before his colleagues for a vote.  It's part of the $12 Billion bill that the Democrats already shot down. <br>
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