[RichardC]

and Why?<br><br>
Thanks in advance. or do you use a fuel belt instead so then repeat which one ond why?

 

[runirishnc]

Richard,<br><br>
I use the Nathan HPL #020 2.0 Liter Men's Race Vest (NFI). The techs on it are:<br>
3-way Propulsion Harness<br>
2 liter hydration bladder with filter-compatible screw-top closure and bite valve<br>
Twin front holsters for carbo-gel and/or GPS<br>
Two zippered rear compartments<br>
Zippered front pocket<br>
Lightweight, breathable Wall Mesh with soft perimeter binding<br>
Weight: 16 oz.<br><br>
I cut those off of the website BTW. The vest is great, I hardly even notice it on and I have been running with it for ~6 months. I use it for any runs over 2 hrs and it allows me to do 4-5 hr runs unsupported.<br><br>
The pockets are great for gels or Bloks and I even throw an iPod in my front mesh pouch on occasion (I know that is borderline heresy to some). The nice thing about the pouches on the front is they are easy to access when you are tired and don't want to take it off.<br><br>
The back has a pouch that is big enough for cell phone, fig newtons, other supplies.<br><br>
I was concerned about how the vest would be in NC heat but no issues, very breathable. In the winter I put it over my base layer and under my jacket and no freezing even on runs in NY.<br><br>
I bought mine through zombierunner (again NFI) and it was very painless. Here is the link for the picture.<br><br><a href="http://www.zombierunner.com/store/brands/nathan_sports/product932.html" target="_blank">http://www.zombierunner.com/store/br...roduct932.html</a><br><br><br>
Hope this helps.<br><br>
Jerry

 

[JohnnyB]

I have a Nathan 4 bottle fuel belt, though I have run with camel bak on some days. I really dislike running with anything but on hot long runs, it is a necessity.<br><br>
BTW, I have a Fuel Brand 4 bottle (32 oz) belt that I used once. Don't like having to use two hands to get the bottles out. It is nearly new if anyone is interested. $20 and its yours.

 

[crunningman]

I've had quite a few different hydration systems over the last few years and have even modified fuelbelts to carry what I need in pouches. Those work great if you are carrying two handhelds at a supported race.<br><br>
However, I have really grown to like the <b><i>WASP</i></b> from UD.<br>
It has:<br>
2 front gel flask mesh pockets<br>
1 fairly large zippered pocket in the front<br>
1 other pocket in the front that is large enough to hold my Golite WISP jacket.<br>
1 large zippered pocket in the back to carry nearly every essential I need on unsupported runs.<br><br>
What I like other than above:<br>
1) You hardly notice it on.<br>
2) It sits high on your back<br>
3) It doesn't bounce<br><br>
What I didn't like:<br>
The bladder. I changed it out for a camelbak bladder because I like the on/off switch on the valve.<br><br>
The longest I've worn it was 25M at the Devil's Backbone 50M in Montana with no problems.<br><br>
I am interested in the Nathan pack however and may give it a go.

 

[merigayle]

I have the small camelbak, it is a Charm for the women, not sure of the name for men. It supposedly holds 50oz (but i think a bit less). it is very comfortable and light. I like having my hands free, anything around my waist made me sick on long races, and anything larger on my back hurt my back.

 

[ChrisG]

Right now, I supplement a UD hand-held with the Golite Hare waist-pack (<a href="http://www.golite.com/product/proddetail.aspx?p=PA5228&s=1" target="_blank">http://www.golite.com/product/prodde...x?p=PA5228&s=1</a>). I'll be using it for Zane Grey and San Juan Solstice. What I like about it<br><br>
- The energy bar packets on the belt fit my iPhone perfectly.<br>
- The large exterior pocket can hold a 20oz bottle, in addition to the 1L bladder inside the pack. In fact, right now I just carry the bottle and skip the bladder because I don't have an insulated tube. If I tie things down correctly, there is no jiggling.<br>
- There is enough room with a full bladder for some munchies, Yak Traks, and a micro jacket.<br>
- It rides right on my hips*. Other waist packs ride too high and the skin on my lower back is freaky sensitive.<br><br>
I did replace the cheapo bladder with a camelback brand.<br><br>
I have had problems in the past fitting a backpack correctly. I need to solve them for Mountain RATS. I bought two different packs to experiment with. Hopefully, one of them works.<br><br>
Chris G<br><br>
* Female Hips since Chris G doesn't scream girl.

 

[cgerber]

Whoa... two Chris G's and two C Gerber's running the San Juan Solstice this year... people already think I'm related to Carol Gerber.<br><br>
Richard,<br><br>
I really love the Nathan HPL 020 too. It doesn't carry a lot of extraneous stuff (clothing, etc) so I don't use it for long unsupported stuff, but it's great in races.<br><br>
- Another Chris G (with not-so-feminine hips) <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">

 

[ctxcrossx]

A Chris C. here.<br><br>
I agree with the descriptions of the UD Wasp and the Nathan #020. They both feel very similar when worn and are quite stable (no bounce). The main difference is that the Wasp holds considerably bunch more. I have both and the Nathan is my race pack while the UD is my unsupported run pack.<br><br>
Chris

 

[divaleh]

I need to contact the people at UD and find out what the measurements for their women's packs are. I just need to make sure that they're not too long (or they'll smack into the junk in my trunk as I run).