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Who has thrown their name into the lottery?<br><br>
Me? Not yet. I am almost certain I will within the next couple of days.<br><br>
You?
 

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I'm totally on the fence. I really don't think I'm up for a super-heavy training schedule in the first half of 2008 - that's what has me unsure. I still have a week after Javelina to get my entry in IIRC so I'm holding out until then.<br><br>
I was thinking about this very topic today. It occurred to me that if I enter, I'll probably find some reason to be away from home the weekend of the lottery. Last year, when I was not entered but knew a bunch of people, I watched the lottery webcast all weekend. If I was entered, I couldn't stand to watch.<br><br>
You think you can go 2 for 2, Tim?
 

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I don't know. There are so many factors including race day weather. I think I know how to train to be better prepared. We shall see.<br><br>
What's IIRC?
 

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If I Remember Correctly.<br><br>
Does being a big Hoity Toity Ultra RD count towards the volunteering requirement?
 

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I would like to run in 2009 or 2010, but I am not prepared to gamble with the lottery. I cannot afford to go next year, in case my name gets drawn. I don't think I'm ready to run the Sierra Nevadas in 2008.<br><br>
Question: Last year was the first year with the new qualification standards. Does anyone think, over the next couple years, that the number of two-time losers will increase to the point that they will take up the majority of the open spots?
 

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Good question. What were the qualifying times before last year? It seems to me that they need to make them tougher or that may end up happening.
 

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I'm not sure. I already did my volunteer requirement at the North Country Trail Run. I worked the last aid station so I was out there all day.
 

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There used to be age categories which now have been removed. For ages 39-and-under, the 50 mile qual was 9hrs (road) and 10hrs (trail.) More details at this link:<br><br><a href="http://www.run100s.com/WS/wsqualify.txt" target="_blank">http://www.run100s.com/WS/wsqualify.txt</a><br><br>
The standards for entry were relaxed, therefore more people are eligible. I'm not implying that there was a registration surge last year due to new standards. This is the second year under the new entry standards and over time I can only guess that more folks will enter. I imagine that the registration figures will tell the tale for future years.<br><br>
When the time comes for me to enter, I hope it doesn't become a major PITA to get in this race.
 

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I can see that being a problem. At the 50 miler on the Big M a huge majority qualify for WS. I think they will need to make the qualifying time tougher again. Then I will need to get faster.<br><br>
Plus I think one estimate is that a 100 miler is 3 x's your 50 mile time. If that's true 11 hours is too long. People shouldn't do what I did and push cutoffs for close to 30 hours.
 

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Yeah but, would you do it any other way? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
Out of curiosity, what did you run North Country 50M in?
 

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10:20. That still would have been a qualifier under the old standards.<br><br>
Oh, I did the "pushing the cutoffs" drama for you - the viewer at home. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
I wanted to keep it exciting. Otherwise how exciting is it to watch an <span style="font-size:large;"><span style="color:#FF0000;">X</span></span> move across a screen?
 

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Carrying that "X" was a biotch! I was impressed.<br><br>
Me this year? No. I love Western & will eventually throw my name into the hat. Right now, I can only do so many destination races a year & my tick list hasn't been covered yet. I would go back to crew/pace in a heartbeat though.
 

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I would take you up on it in a heart beat. You really were the best pacer I could have hoped for. Make up 2 minutes here, 3 minutes there, etc. That worked so well. Plus you got me through the whole cartilage drama. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"> I'm not falling in 2008. I want to celebrate properly. Vicodin sucks.
 

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I threw my name in the hat already, with my buddy. We are one time "losers" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy"><br><br>
I could care less either way. I am pretty much decided 100% to go back to the Tetons and do the 100 miler, so i will have my Western Mountain 100 miler either way <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
I think they should tighten up the qualifying, at least for the 50 mile part. I only say this now, after running 2 100 milers this year <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy"> last year i got in on a 10:59 road 50 miler <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy"> i have since done better on trails, but it got me in to the lottery last year.
 
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