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<p>Alright you maggots!  No more slacking!  Give me some miles!</p>
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<p>Sir, yes, sir!  4 miles, done EZ in warm, humid conditions.  Nice.</p>
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<p>Carry on.</p>
 

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<p>Alright drill seargent.  I went awol this morning.  Foot still swollen so no running.  The pretty colors are subsiding so maybe that's a good sign?</p>
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<p>Sir yes Sir!!</p>
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<p>Ran 2, weights 30 mins. Working from home.</p>
 

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<p>Rest day for me.  I guess that means KP duty?  Drat!</p>
<p>I <em>so</em> don't look good in a hair net...<img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/huh.gif" style="width:15px;height:15px;" title=""></p>
 

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<p>I'm back from France lots of blogging done.</p>
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<p>Unusually for me I have run twice today for just over 16 miles.</p>
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<p>Rain rain and more rain here in the UK  </p>
 

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<p>Well all you overachievers can run a mile or 10 for me. I'm taking the slacking thing to new levels, I tell ya. Ha. And I'm such a slacker I just saw that Monday was slacker day! And I missed it!</p>
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<p>Actually, on Monday I DID run, but just a little shorty 2k "fun run" sponsored by one of the vendors at the conference. It was actually 1.7 miles, so throw in a warm up of about .5 mile and I'm calling it 2.2 for the day. Wow, I'm on a roll! The best part is I was first female across the line and won an iPod Shuffle! How cool is that? Actually, it was hot, sticky and humid even at 6:50 a.m., but that's ok.</p>
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<p>Set my alarm early to get up and work out, but figured why ruin a good streak and went back to bed. Now I'm at the airport waiting for my journey home to commence. First stop Dallas (but no time for a visit), then Seattle, then home a little after midnight. It's 27° there right now and I can't wait to get home!</p>
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<p>Hugh congrats and hugs to CNY for her impressive win on Sunday. I wanna be like CNYrunner when I grow up. Oh, wait, no I don't. She goes on these no-wine/no-cookies thing before her runs. Can't do that.</p>
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<p>{{KS's foot}} Not sure what happened, but sounds like it hurt. Hope it heals up soon.</p>
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<p>Labduck, my DH used to be very handy with fixing things around the house, but he seems to have lost the knack for it. We've had a leaky faucet in our bathroom for weeks now, and I keep threatening to call the plumber. We're at a stalemate so far, and the faucet still leaks.</p>
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<p>Looking forward to getting back to running. September will be a very low month for me, but that's ok. I needed the break.</p>
 

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<p>Maybe I'll sneak over to DFW and see Ek!  Always a fun sighting!</p>
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<p>Tapering, tapering....</p>
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<p>4.5 miles, 3.5 at MP and 1 slow this morning, followed by a flex workout at the Y.  Feeling like a little kid on the last day of school. </p>
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<p>KS, are you doing anything with the foot now at all?  Ice/heat?  Or massaging it at all? </p>
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<p>Esther, are you planning on a marathon?  What gives?   Spareribs</p>
 

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<p>Thanks for asking, Ribs. I'm really itching to run more, to run <em>long</em>, but I'm having trouble figuring out where I fit in any of the marathon training plans I've seen. I was looking at <a href="http://www.nycmarathon.org/training/training_schedule.htm" target="_blank">these schedules</a> this morning, and even got as far as printing them out.... but since my weekly mileage has been pretty steady in the 40s for the past 10 weeks or so, it seems counter-intuitive to me to step back to start at the beginning of any of these plans. Also, the weekly long runs tend to be longer and more frequent than my every-other-week double-digit ventures, so I don't even know if I'll be able to do it. Right now, a 20, or even 18 mile run seems just as unfathomable as a marathon itself. Shouldn't I already be able to do all the long runs before I set out to do the training plan for the ultimate distance to begin with? It certainly seems that way to me, but obviously I'm missing something here....</p>
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<p>Yes, I know, <em>breathe</em>. I'm heading out to run now, but have absolutely no clue for how long. This is my main dilemma, pretty much everyday. I ran almost 8 yesterday and took Monday off (first time in over two weeks, I think). How far should I go today???</p>
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<p>wow, what a difference a few degrees makes... about 70f at the start and 75f at the end of my run... ahhhh, heavenly!</p>
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<p>9mi flat 7:40avg pace felt great.</p>
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<p>i saw the magic 158 lbs on my bathroom scale this past weekend... it's been a long long long time since i've been below 160.  of course i was hung-over and dehydrated from a 90f 8mi run, but still!  i'm about 165 lbs now fully hydrated, dropping about 3lbs per month for the past 3 months.  3 months to go.</p>
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<p>hoping for 14mi on the bike trainer tonight after dark, and then commuter running thursday up next!</p>
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<p>ps - om, don't drop back down in your mileage just to fit in with someone's schedule.  you've got a great base now, keep at it.  why not just keep your 2 long-runs per month going and see how that works?  you can get into great shape with 40 mi per week, 2 18mi long runs per month, and then add a 6mi tempo-paced run (with a 3mi warmup and 1mi cooldown) once a week.  why not aim for a half marathon this fall and then a spring marathon?  or maybe aim for 2000-2200 miles in 2011 and a marathon in the spring of 2012?  the most important thing about today's workout is being able to run well tomorrow.</p>
 

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<p>Erika, enjoy your slacking while you can.</p>
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<p>OrangeMat, I think you could just slide into one of those training programs at the point where its long run distance is the same as one of your recent LRs.  The whole point of the program is to gradually build up your weekly and LR mileage, so they don't assume you have done runs that long previously.  The one thing I'd add is that, if you don't have a target race (i.e., date), it's fine to repeat a week if you don't feel ready to move to the a longer LR.</p>
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<p>4 M on the TM with 2 @ tempo pace for me today.</p>
 

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<p><span style="color:#ff8c00;"><strong>OM</strong></span>, You have such a good base right now that I agree that you don't need to, nor should you step it back just for the sake of following a certain marathon plan. Your long run was 16 miles last week, if I remember correctly, so why not just add a mile or two every other week until you get up to around 20-22 miles and then at that point you are ready for a marathon. Of course, you'd need to find one that fits into that time frame that is one you'd like to run in.  I followed a plan for my first marathon, but I didn't for my 2nd marathon. I was running less mileage than you are and I just worked up my long runs so that by the time I hit 16-18 miles, I went to an every other weekend long run and increased it in increments of 2 miles. and then my 'non-long-run' weekends were right in the 10-13 mile range.  I planned out my runs during the week based on what the planned distance was for my wknd long run and made sure my mid week long run was 1/2 the distance of my wknd long run and then just ran at least 2 other times during the week of anywhere from 4-7 miles depending on my schedule and what I could do. This kept my training schedule flexible, didn't stress me out and felt better prepared for my 2nd marathon then I did for my 1st. Of course, maybe no one really feels prepared for their first marathon no matter how well they trained.</p>
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<p>just my 2 cents. and i know everyone has a different opinion and advice on how to approach it. The above is basically what worked for me. But, just like with running shoes, what works for one person might not work for another.</p>
 

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<p>Hi all</p>
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<p>5 1/2 miles in the woods earlier this AM, kind of humid too.</p>
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<p>OM.....we're all an experiment of one......You've built a nice base over the last few months.....but there's no reason to train for a marathon unless you really want to. As I recall, you've only run a few 5 & 10K races, right?? Why not try a half first, if so inclined. With the base you now have, you could taper and then do this next weekend, or do it this weekend without a taper, or not race at all, just run for the joy of running.</p>
 

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<p>Johnny makes an excellent point OM.   A half marathon is a good primer for a marathon.</p>
 

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Gee, that's a novel idea! I like it!</p>
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<p>What's a drill sergeant?  Like, I am <em>totally</em> not into recognizing these artificial borders that separate us from each other, nor the idea of owning land, so <em>no way</em> am I, like, going to be in the military to protect the daft notion of the aforesaid.</p>
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<p>Peace, man.  I'll give you some miles.  <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/headbang.gif" title=""></p>
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<p>Gorgeous, gorgeous day.</p>
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<p>20' wu, 6x3' @ 5k effort (6:26,33,38,30,32,36) 20' wd</p>
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<p>Nice steady effort.  I know I could have done another or two, or run each a tad faster, so I consider it a success. </p>
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<p><strong>OM</strong>, would you entertain the notion of going somewhere special to do your first?  I think it's worthy of a real celebration, so why not go somewhere special?</p>
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<p>....irun is Tough but Fair............</p>
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<p>oh, Wait a Minute,</p>
<p>I was thinking about someone else......</p>
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<p>..........er.........irun is Tough......</p>
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<p>...........22min poolrun..........</p>
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<p>Physical this morning.........BP was ______(nice word that means ApeSh*t)</p>
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<p>negotiating with him to stay off BP meds,</p>
<p>THINK he agreed for me to add 2-days WeightTraining and Count Carbs for 90-days</p>
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<p>will check back tomorrow, after I take my own BP in morning.</p>
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<p>..........I also think I agreed to only Run One Day a Week til my Next Birthday.....</p>
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<p> the GoodNews==>>if this actually works,</p>
<p>I'll be a Racing Weight for the Knoxville Marathon..</p>
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<p>but I still ain't racing anymore.</p>
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<p>...................good running guys...........try to remember what you promised if you happen to be naked at the time....</p>
 

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<p>OM, I'm of the mindset that you are enjoying running so much right now, why ruin it by running a marathon.  But if you do decide to, I also think you should run a half first, mostly just to get use to the anxiety of the race start, and with having lots of people running besides you.  It's VERY different from your long runs.  You'll need to learn how to run in a crowd and not go out too fast.  It's not as easy as it sounds.</p>
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<p>Dearest SS, what race are you running at RVM?  Whatever one it is, you're going to rock it with the workouts you've been putting up lately!  I wish I was running with you, but family first; I'm running the last 7 miles of the Portland Marathon with my sister.  It's her first, and she should BQ!</p>
 
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