VRAA scoring table

roots · Dec 23, 2007

Enter your points here: <a href="http://vraa.mootness.net/" target="_blank">VRAA Scoring Central</a> 
Welcome to the VRAA. Listed below are the categories in which players earn points for their team. 
Stay tuned for the next round starting on January 4th. Registration opens December 26th. VRAA scoring categories: I. Running/Walking: 4 pts for every mile (1 pt for every 1/4 mile). Includes outdoor running/walking and, if you choose, treadmill. II. Swimming: 1 pt for every 100 yards (indoor or outdoor) III. Cycling: 1.5 pt for every mile (includes outdoor cycling and, if you choose, trainers that give accurate mileage readings) IV. In-line skating (the APRR Chuck rule): 2 pts for every mile V. The Race Premium: Add 5 pts. for a race to the points you'd get for the distance. Applies once per race, whether it's a 5K or an Ironman tri. VI. General Cardio*: 1 pt for every 3 minutes VII. Alternate workouts**: 1 pt for every 5 minutes (maximum of 60 minutes, or 12 points, per day; we do not intend to turn this race into Yoga Your Ass Across America) * General Cardio includes: Stationary bike/Elliptical/Stair-stepper/Rowing, etc. The basic requirement for this category is an activity that produces a sustained, elevated and/or aerobic heart rate. Use this for any aerobic activity that you can't readily measure in miles. ** Alternate workouts: This category is open to interpretation. To a point. Below are the suggested activities. The guidance with this category is to count time spent working and not rest time. 
- Yoga/Pilates 
- Weighlifting/Circuit training 
- Core/Abdominal work 
- Team sports 
At some point, we must draw the line. The Alternate workout category is capped at 60 minutes, or 12 points per day.

Tithers · Dec 27, 2007

Do sexual relations count as an alternate workout?

roots · Dec 27, 2007

I do not suggest glancing at your HRM during HJ! <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">

APRR Chuck · Dec 27, 2007

i just love the fact i still have a RULE named after me. i'll live forever now. <img alt="cry.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/cry.gif"> it's hard to notice but there is a little tear running down my cheek there. it's a tear of joy though since i'm so loved here by y'all

kestrou · Dec 27, 2007

Chuck, inline skating for a mile is half the points of running a mile, huh? 
Can I put some of those skating miles in on a treadmill?! <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif"> 
kestrou

APRR Chuck · Jan 3, 2008

actually there is a skate treadmill....but even i'm afraid of it <img alt="uhoh2.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/uhoh2.gif"> 
the reason for 1/2 score is that my skate is exactly half my run times for those distances. 
my 10 skate = my 5k run 
and while skating on flat seems like fun, and downhill is too, take on a 7 degree up hill for a 1/4 mile on little wheels and no gears. Atlanta is full of those hills.

Jensparks · Jan 3, 2008

Question: If I happen to hike a NH 4,000 foot mountain in the snow, carrying a 15 lb pack, and it takes 2 hours up and 2 hours down, is that considered General Cardio?

mykemp1971 · Jan 3, 2008

Wouldn't counting it as walking/running give you more points? I would think that hiking would be a 'derivative' of walking/running and scored as such, but that's me... 
ETA but with a pack, and in snow... you deserve to count it the way that would give you the most points <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">

Nettie · Jan 3, 2008

She might actually be better off counting it as general cardio. I know McTortle went on a time consuming high, but the miles were low and we counted it as general cardio as per Hairy Trotter.

Jensparks · Jan 4, 2008

4 hours hiking under general cardio would be 80 points! <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> 
The thing with the mountains is, sometimes you're climbing 1,000 feet in a mile, which is a LOT and really strenuous. So you might only do 6 miles Round Trip, but IMO it's the equivalent of a long run. My first NH Whites hike was while I was marathon training, the week before my first 18. I thought I was in great shape. And then the mountain kicked my butt!

roots · Jan 4, 2008

You have a choice to make. 1) Count as Run/Walk mileage, or 2) Count as General Cardio. 
Use as a guide the following statement: 
* General Cardio includes: Stationary bike/Elliptical/Stair-stepper/Rowing, etc. The basic requirement for this category is an activity that produces a sustained, elevated and/or aerobic heart rate. Use this for any aerobic activity that you can't readily measure in miles. 
You are the arbiter of your exertion. If you're doing a lot of starting and stopping along the hike, then I would reconsider counting this workout as "General Cardio."

Jensparks · Jan 4, 2008

<img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> I've been accused of trying to run up mountains. 
Of course, I might not even hike one in the month, but there's a strong possibility I will. <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif"> 
Thanks Roots!

CMJHawk86 · Jan 4, 2008

So I guess playing soccer would be considered an "alternate" workout?

APRR Chuck · Jan 4, 2008

that's how i consider skate soccer, cones, and trick skating

roots · Jan 4, 2008

We've had this one before. It's a toss-up between "alternate workout" and "general cardio." 
We had a fella play back-to-back 90 minute soccer games. He claimed he had a sustained, elevated heart rate for the entire two games. 
For GC, follow the same guidance I have to JenSparks above. Think "sustained heart rate." If part of your soccer game does not include "sustained," then I would reconsider counting it as GC. 
Use good judgement, ask the question if you cannot decide.

cgerber · Jan 4, 2008

I was wondering the same thing. I could take me 4 hours to do a 10 mile snowshoe hike up 4000' vertical at an elevation above 10,000', all of it at a long run heart rate... 
Not sure I'd feel right about taking 4 hours of general cardio, that's 80 points... although I'd run 25 miles in the same amount of time. Maybe split the difference between actual miles and general, or something similar. 
Another idea could be to add 5 points per 1000' vertical and count the distance travelled. 4 hours, 10 miles, 4000 vert would net you 40pts for the run + 20pts for the climb, which seems pretty fair. 
- Chris

VTLaura · Jan 4, 2008

Would cross country skiing be a similar choice - 4pts per mile (if I knew mileage) or count as general cardio (if I didn't) or something in between?

Hanging Jury · Jan 4, 2008

I'm going XC Skiing tomorrow.... I'd also like to know the answer to this.

roots · Jan 4, 2008

XC Skiiing - General Cardio, definately. 
Downhill skiiing - I wouldn't count it, but it would be Alternate Workout.

Sans Souci · Jan 4, 2008

Question about rowing, Roots. 
When I measure miles v time on the rower, I generally come out ahead counting the distance (i.e. 21 minutes = 7 points; 4830metres/3 miles = 12 points, if tally is correct). I have to work HARD to achieve this (I'd rather be running, but I'm on injury comeback). So which do I choose? 
Thank you for your hard work on this. It'll be FUN!

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