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john,<br>
didn't recognize you in person <img alt="sad.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad.gif"> otherwise, after 5+ hours and 10 out and backs of that hilly little course, emmy and i would have said hello to you at some point during the 50k! bummer...
 

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John, we need to shape Frank's head. To not recognize you is heresy. He will soone learn to bow. <img alt="banana.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/banana.gif">I accept he doesn know me....yet! <img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif"><br><br>
I think this number 6 for me.
 

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pithydoug, you crack me up! <img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif"><br><br>
the first thing nick p. said on saturday was "how come you guys haven't signed up for vt yet!!" yikes, we're not one week into 2008 yet! if i don't run it again this year, would definitely go back to pace emmy. either way, won't miss it.
 

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Some years back I ran with Nick through the second Ten Bear and let me tell you that was an effort. <img alt="sad2.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad2.gif"><br><br>
Ask Nick about 10 races that he signed up for and never showed! <img alt="cool.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/cool.gif"><br><br>
In addition Nick comes up from Lung( Long, with the NYC accent) Island and trains with me.
 

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that's harsh <img alt="sad.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad.gif"> ... poor nick only finished vermont 12 times!<br><br>
he's really keyed up for the 20th anniversary... it's going to be old home week for all you old timers <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br>
he tells us about the training he does for vt up in the catskills/bear mountain/and the wilds of new york! certainly none of that good stuff on long island!!<br><br>
nick's a friend of mine from the broadway ultra crowd. in addition to all the races he enters (and occassional runs) he's the rd for the greenbelt trail 50k in may.
 

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It's hard not to know Nick if you do these races and live in NY. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> As for oldtimers I resemble that and I'm older then Nick.<br><br>
We have a hill that is 2,500 over 5 miles with hardly a break. We do laps, running one or two and then hiking one or two. The hill is much like the climbs at Vermont. We run the laps just to do build overall strength and the hikes are a must for race day. We try to work up to 10,000 feet of up and respective down. It's a soild base for the 100 which has 15,000 and back end loaded.<br><br>
If you or Emmy are interested in the runs contact me outside this forum. Just a heads up, these are bloody long pulls. It often takes years to run the whole way but the good part, one can run/hike it just as fast so we can stay together, assuming some base strength.<br><br>
I use the road section of this hill now to train for the HAT and Bull Run.<br><br>
By the way take a look at Fat Ass 50k pictures.<br><a href="http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/players" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0000FF;">www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/players</span></a><br><br>
Use the same web page on Thursday to see the write up on the race. Pete is not only one of the RD's but does the weekly running column for the Pok rag. I really like his column - he covers runners and not just times. I'm sure he'll take some disparaging yet deservedly shot at me. <img alt="banana.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/banana.gif">
 

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I went down and did a 20 miler today on the Long Island Greenbelt Trail, and who should be standing in the parking lot when I got done, but Nick <img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif">himself! That's a great single track trail by the way. I had no idea. ----------------------John (who trains the grounds of which Doug speaks)
 

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Are you doing the slam? <img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif">
 

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pithydoug, definitely up for doing some training runs/hikes w/you guys! probably can't get up there until early march. will send you pm.<br><br>
are you guys interested in doing wurtsboro mountain 30k (it's on roads) down in sullivan county this march? great event put on by sullivan striders!<br><br>
thanks for the heads up on poughkeepsie journal pictures and coverage. pete actually published my rr (slightly edited to remove references to "fa" - haha). will post it here on kr as a separate thread. pretty excellent that you ran w/alicja - she's one great ultrarunner!<br><br>
i hope you guys come down to caumsett park for the 50k - otherwise see you at hat.
 

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> definitely up for doing some training runs/hikes w/you guys! probably<br>
> can't get up there until early march. will send you pm.<br><br>
I dislike the quoting system so I'll borrow from USENET. <img alt="sad2.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad2.gif"><br><br>
Actually Training for the Vt100 will start some weeks after recovery from Bull Run. What we are doing know is to get ready for the HAT and BR. They are only two weeks apart this year, so the HAT will be long run. This assumes I get into BR with the lottery system implimented this year. I don't how much weight my 7 previous finishes will have.<br><br><br>
> are you guys interested in doing wurtsboro mountain 30k (it's on roads) > down in sullivan county this march? great event put on by sullivan<br>
> striders!<br><br>
The fact that I train on the roads in tourture enough. I'd rather not add one more road gig. <img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif"><br><br>
> thanks for the heads up on poughkeepsie journal pictures and coverage.<br><br>
Read <a href="http://tinyurl.com/28qqzj" target="_blank"><b>http://tinyurl.com/28qqzj</b></a>Some nice stuff.<br><br><br>
> pretty excellent that you ran w/alicja - she's one great ultrarunner!<br><br>
Some Irony. We were very close throughout the race swapping postion by who took the longest at the aid station. I was lingering at lot and adding commentary to Pete etc. I'll censor the exact dialog. Anyway I took a long potty break at lap 7 and she went ahead. Nick was busting my chops that she was going to kick my *ss I kind of ignored him, hell this was a training run.<br><br>
I hardly stopped before my last lap. I was sucking septic sludge and just wanted to get done and have a beer. I did pass her at the turn around and I could feel her pick it up. We are in the parking lot and she is about 10 yds behind me. I turned, slowed, grab her hand and said let's finish together and talk about having kids. She laughed and said Ok to the finish but not the kids. <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif"> We hung out on my van bumper for a while - she was fun to talk to. She is one tough babe and has done some incredible races, like 200 miles pulling a sled with her support in Alaska.<br><br>
> i hope you guys come down to caumsett park for the 50k - otherwise<br>
> see you at hat.<br><br>
See ya at the HAT!
 

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her alaska adventure was out of this world - truly amazing...<br><br>
her idea of a fun run is one end of long island to the other! she and nick drove up together. probably explains why he was razzing you about her (but then again, he's like that <img alt="wink.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif">).<br><br>
hat is my last long run before umstead
 
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