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Universal health care question

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I agree that something needs to be done (desperately) to the health care system. The problem I have with universal health care is that if I understand it right, everyone's tax money devoted to the program would often go to treat preventable problems (things caused by smoking, sedentary lifestyle, etc). Is this true or false? How do you feel about it?
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Your premiums for private plans do that as well.
The operations analyst in me says that we should take a serious crack at streamlining the current private system <b>first</b>. Maybe with a less sizeable government investment in the form of tax breaks for hosptials/facilities/insurance companies that reduce costs by a certain degree? Grants for 2nd phase improvements for those same groups who execute on the first phase of BPR plans?<br><br>
There's a lot of waste in the system... <b>and</b> many of these "non-profits" are raking in huge dollars and stockpiling it...
This is such a myopic view that it's bordering on comical.<br><br>
Insurance execs often make MUCH less than other business execs in similar positions. Facilities, drug companies, and insurance companies ALL play EQUAL parts in this.<br><br>
To single out any one of them is nothing short of furthering a personal agenda.
I read that as an offer for sex.<br><br><br><br>
Seriously Reb, did you have some cosmetic surgery turned down by your HMO or something? Because the chip on your shoulder is about to topple you over...
Yeah GRR, tell me to go to hell in PM from now on!!
They're the future taxpayers of America. That they exist means that they'll be taxed, and will be able to fund whatever government benefits you and I will collect in our decrepit old age. Oh, sure, maybe not in the form of Social Security payments, but we'll likely have a government subsidy of some type, and the fact that it exists will be based solely on the existence of a non-aged tax base...<br><br>
So, nice try, but giving a proportionally small benefit to families (who, <i>by and large</i> are paying <b>more</b> in taxes due to the marriage penalty <i>anyway</i>) is the only reason that the country can underwrite any large-scale, long-term program...
Maybe the solution is <a href="" target="_blank">Medical Tourism</a>
FINALLY! Someone responds to a post of mine in this thread!! (besides GRR)<br><br>
I was beginning to think that my points were so perfect as to not be disputed...<br><br><br><br>
Yes, I'll be in trouble... but I'll take my lumps...
Only if you're saying that it's okay for you to make more because I'm married and you aren't.<br><br><br>
But actually, yes, I <b>am</b> saying that I should get a benefit for that...<br><br>
Because I'm providing a renewable resource to the country, and you aren't.
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Marriage penalty for couples filing jointly.
You're provin'. my. point.<br><br>
So I've paid my <b>own</b> taxes, and created someone <b>else</b> who will pay taxes also. Therefore, I've provided more to the sustainability of America than you have.<br><br>
Why do you hate America, Rich?<br><br><br>
Can one of you finance gurus figure out the Present Value of the tax burden in perpetuity of a person who has two kids, who go on to have two kids, etc, etc... and tell me if it's worth my measly annual deduction... or is Rich <b>really</b> getting robbed here? <img alt="biggrin.gif" src=""><img alt="biggrin.gif" src="">
I hope you don't take it that way. That's not at all how it was intended.<br><br><img alt="sad.gif" src="">
No need to poke at it. I get what she's saying.
Now Rich.<br><br>
One more and I get the trifecta in this very thread!! <img alt="surprised.gif" src="">
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