Two marathons one month apart?
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Depends on your goals. If simply to finish, then no.<br><br>
Not necessarily stupid. Actually, one could be an excellent training run for the other. It depends, in part, how you recover from a marathon or long run of 26 miles.<br><br>
If you have performance goals, then I imagine that you should choose one or the other as the A-race.<br><br>
I've run my two best marathons 3 weeks after another. If you are performance oriented, I suggest checking out Pfitzinger's schedule under "4 weeks between marathons." I used a modified version of this schedule to arrive at marathon #2 in good shape.
Not necessarily stupid. Actually, one could be an excellent training run for the other. It depends, in part, how you recover from a marathon or long run of 26 miles.<br><br>
If you have performance goals, then I imagine that you should choose one or the other as the A-race.<br><br>
I've run my two best marathons 3 weeks after another. If you are performance oriented, I suggest checking out Pfitzinger's schedule under "4 weeks between marathons." I used a modified version of this schedule to arrive at marathon #2 in good shape.
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Which two are you looking at?<br><br>
Pick one as a oal race and the other to finish. If the weather for the first one is crazy hot, just cruise through it and hope for a nice day for #2.<br><br>
Won't wreck you if you're reasonably smart about it.
Pick one as a oal race and the other to finish. If the weather for the first one is crazy hot, just cruise through it and hope for a nice day for #2.<br><br>
Won't wreck you if you're reasonably smart about it.
I depends. Mostly on how quickly you recover from Boston.<br><br>
PacerChris is spot on, especially for folks who haven't done it before.<br><br>
As Boston is the first one, I have a hard time believing you'd try to use that for a training run <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">. But maybe...<br><br>
The thing is, if you don't recover reasonably quickly from Boston, you raise the chances of hurting yourself at Fargo. Doesn't mean you will. It means you might. Factor that into your planning if it takes you more than two weeks to feel "normal" from Boston.<br><br>
Me?<br><br>
I'd do it.<br><br>
But you probably knew that.
PacerChris is spot on, especially for folks who haven't done it before.<br><br>
As Boston is the first one, I have a hard time believing you'd try to use that for a training run <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">. But maybe...<br><br>
The thing is, if you don't recover reasonably quickly from Boston, you raise the chances of hurting yourself at Fargo. Doesn't mean you will. It means you might. Factor that into your planning if it takes you more than two weeks to feel "normal" from Boston.<br><br>
Me?<br><br>
I'd do it.<br><br>
But you probably knew that.
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Arrojo -<br><br>
I've done 2 marathons about 30 days apart back in 2004 I did the Equinox and then, one day less than 1 full month after the Equinox, I came home and did the Bay State.<br><br>
My own experience is that I was not fully recovered from the hard effort I put into the Equinox when I ran Bay State. I did okay in the Bay State, but not as well as I could have had I not run the Equinox. But my goals that year were to run the Bay State just to do a more local marathon. I wanted to race the Equinox.<br><br>
Pfitz/Douglas has a plan for multiple-marathons and 4 weeks is about the shortest they recommend between marathons.<br><br>
By the way, if I recover well from this year's Equinox, I'm doing the Equinox/Bay State double again this year. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
You're probably in better shape than I am Arrojo. I'm sure you can do both.
I've done 2 marathons about 30 days apart back in 2004 I did the Equinox and then, one day less than 1 full month after the Equinox, I came home and did the Bay State.<br><br>
My own experience is that I was not fully recovered from the hard effort I put into the Equinox when I ran Bay State. I did okay in the Bay State, but not as well as I could have had I not run the Equinox. But my goals that year were to run the Bay State just to do a more local marathon. I wanted to race the Equinox.<br><br>
Pfitz/Douglas has a plan for multiple-marathons and 4 weeks is about the shortest they recommend between marathons.<br><br>
By the way, if I recover well from this year's Equinox, I'm doing the Equinox/Bay State double again this year. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
You're probably in better shape than I am Arrojo. I'm sure you can do both.
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Thanks everyone. It usually takes me 3 weeks or so till I feel I am running normally again. My thinking is that I'll be in marathon shape, right? Why not use it?<br><br>
I could always sign up for Fargo and then bag it if I know I am trashed. It's just that I've never been to Fargo.
I could always sign up for Fargo and then bag it if I know I am trashed. It's just that I've never been to Fargo.
The one real concern I have for you is the potential addictiveness of doing this. You could end up in this miserable mess that so many of us have, and not be able to do anything about it.<br><br>
And just in case that happens, I have a little suggestion for you to help you recover from Fargo:<br><br><i>God's Country Marathon -- Coudersport PA -- 6/7/08</i><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
And just in case that happens, I have a little suggestion for you to help you recover from Fargo:<br><br><i>God's Country Marathon -- Coudersport PA -- 6/7/08</i><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
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I plan to take this on myself, this year with Chicago and NYC. Chicago is my goal race and I'll treat NYC accordingly depending on how I recover. I plan to use the Pfitzinger plan that EQ mentioned in between the two.<br><br>
Good luck!!
Good luck!!
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Boston is a course that will beat you up (especially if you've not done it before). Run smart and conservatively from the beginning and you will find that you will likely:<br>
A) pass a shitload of people late in the race<br>
2) Enjoy the race more<br>
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d) Recover quicker and then go on to bust tail in Fargo (heard good things about that race)<br><br>
It's very hard not to get too geeked up @ Boston - in 2004, you could see that people were by-God going to run their planned pace no matter if it was 86 degrees and even though I was deep in the Hurt Bag even I passed a few people late in the race (though I was passed more!). Starting off conservatively makes sense both for that day and for Fargo.
A) pass a shitload of people late in the race<br>
2) Enjoy the race more<br>
and<br>
d) Recover quicker and then go on to bust tail in Fargo (heard good things about that race)<br><br>
It's very hard not to get too geeked up @ Boston - in 2004, you could see that people were by-God going to run their planned pace no matter if it was 86 degrees and even though I was deep in the Hurt Bag even I passed a few people late in the race (though I was passed more!). Starting off conservatively makes sense both for that day and for Fargo.
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Yeah, you wouldn't want to get rusty! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
Dude!<br><br>
When I tried the 4 weeks thing in June, I <span style="text-decoration:underline;">knew</span> it was going to be bad, but thought I'd manage to get something positive out of it.<br><br>
Well, it was worse than I thought, really awful, and there was nothing positive about it at all.<br><br>
So now as I work out my schedule I have absolute priorities.<br><br>
1) Max 3 weeks, prefer 2<br>
2) Manage the SPOF to a reasonable level.<br>
3) Keep the travel budget within fairly strict constraints.<br><br>
And only then do I worry about which races I really want to run or might be worthwhile. "Fits in the right calendar slot" takes precedence over "I've always wanted to do that" way too often.
When I tried the 4 weeks thing in June, I <span style="text-decoration:underline;">knew</span> it was going to be bad, but thought I'd manage to get something positive out of it.<br><br>
Well, it was worse than I thought, really awful, and there was nothing positive about it at all.<br><br>
So now as I work out my schedule I have absolute priorities.<br><br>
1) Max 3 weeks, prefer 2<br>
2) Manage the SPOF to a reasonable level.<br>
3) Keep the travel budget within fairly strict constraints.<br><br>
And only then do I worry about which races I really want to run or might be worthwhile. "Fits in the right calendar slot" takes precedence over "I've always wanted to do that" way too often.
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Going to be doing something similar myself this fall. Oct 29th - Dublin, and then Nov 18th, 22 days later, Philadelphia. Philly is my target, Dublin my home marathon. I'll use Dub as a training run, and run easily - Your problem is that the Top Race for you would be the first one, Boston. Aim to be there myself, so we can talk about it over a Sam Adams <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
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