Tuesday 2/26

Boyerdavea · Feb 26, 2008

Good morning all. 
Thought i would start todays thread since it has been a while. 
tonya - You need to chime in today. I know you have been reading. What's up is everything OK. 
EQ - You need to be careful out there. 
Today i am scheduled to do a 1000 meter time trial in the fish bowl this mroning. Hopefully i show improvement over last month. 
Someone asked yesterday whiy I did the time trial. Well I have been doing them every four weeks during my rest week to guage my training. I have been doing about 8-11 hours of cardio training each week and on the fourth week I drop to 5 hours with all easy workouts with the exception of the three time trials (swim/bike/run). This is the last one before my triathlon.

RichardC · Feb 26, 2008

Dave: knock that time trial out of the park!!! I like your training plan for it. 
I am going to go to my first Yoga class today (for beginners) maybe a little cardio before hand to warm up... maybe a walk tonight as well. 
Enjoy your day everyone

LizRuns4101 · Feb 26, 2008

Morning, all! Yesterday was my first day back to some form of exercise since the ankle sprain and flu. Did 1 mile walk <img alt="sad.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad.gif"> @ 3.6mph w/9.5% incline. It actually got my HR up to 150 at one point! (I normally run easy at 160). Then did 10 min on the elliptical and 10 on the stairmaster. I changed it up for the sake of boredom. Today I wake up and I'm still coughing/congested. I'm wondering if it's a sinus infection that needs meds and not just the flu. 
Great runs yesterday. No time to reply since I was in class till 10pm. 
Dave- GL on your time trial. Excellent time trial yesterday, by the way. 
Richard- Enjoy your yoga/walking. I love Yoga, it's so good for stress relief. 
Run strong everyone!

Alex · Feb 26, 2008

Wow late class Liz...glad things are improving a little at least. 
Good luck Dave! 
Ricardo - have a grand time, and loosen up would ya. <img alt="wink.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif"> 
Recovery run afterschool....hooray!

loopy · Feb 26, 2008

Good morning all! 
Dave good luck with the time trial. 
Richard, enjoy the yoga and Alex, enjoy the recovery run. 
Liz, hope you feel better soon. 
Did 6 at 8:00 pace this morning. Legs still feeling a bit tired after last week -- was my first 60+ mile week in a long time. Hopefully, if I continue to take it easy, will be feeling better by this weekend's race.

Boyerdavea · Feb 26, 2008

Good day. Quick post as I have work that I need to get to. 
TT went great, I knocked 58 seconds off my 1000 meter swim in four weeks. <img alt="banana.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/banana.gif"> That gives me a total of 4:20 faster since I did my first TT in January. <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">

kfuller · Feb 26, 2008

Dave-- I am impressed. It is 6:45 a.m. here and you are already up and done with the time trial and have reported about it. Today I am still trying to wake up. What was the time for the trial? 
Loopy-- Nice job on the 6 miles. 
Alex-- Enjoy the run later. 
Richard-- Have fun at Yoga today. 
Liz-- I hope you get better soon. 
For me I have a short 3 miles planned for today. It should be a nice easy run today. Have a great morning everyone and keep up the awesome running/walking/swimming/biking etc...

RunAsics · Feb 26, 2008

Morning gang! Nice going all! 
I didn't get a chance to post my workout last night... ended with ~7.8 miles on the treadmill in ~60 mins, mostly at 7:30mpm, which is the top end of my McMillan "easy" pace. It was a bit of a slog as my legs were totally lack lustre. HR was at least 5-10 bpm higher than normal. Probably should have gone slower but I hate that. 
I'm struggling with my mileage this month due to the post race recovery/easy week. If all goes to plan, I should scrape up enough to average 30mpm. Then I'll push back to 35 to 40 mpm for March and April as I prep for upcoming races. 
Anyway, I'm rabbling; the plan for today is 400s after work; shooting for 1:26s but will likely throw in some 1:22s in the middle. We'll see how that goes...

Mailbox Head · Feb 26, 2008

Great improvement Dave. 
Hope the Yoga goes well for you Richard. 
Glad to see you getting back a little Liz. 
Enjoy the easy runs Alex, Loopy and Kfuller. 
Don't be afraid to back it off a little bit o the speedwork if you're not feeling it tonight Asics. 
I wasn't around to post yesterday because I was a little busy. We got 2 new cats from the Humane Society yesterday and I was at home working and making sure they were getting along with the incumbent cats. The house was pretty crazy with 4 cats running around, but I was able to sneak 10 in after everyone went to sleep. 
That's the plan for tonight too, try to find time for another 10.

4boysmom · Feb 26, 2008

David--nice job in the fishbowl! 
Liz--start back slowly. It took me a month and two rounds of antibiotics to get rid of my cold/bronchitis/sinus infection. 
Good runs/plans for runs later. 
Fishbowl for me this mornign. I knew I had two long workouts, so I was in the water shortly after 6am. 2500yds in 1:02. Slow, but getting there. 
Hoped for a quick change, but ran into a friend I haven't seen in a while. She was looking really down. She lost her job yesterday. So we talked for a while. 
Finally out for a run. It was slushing. I mean, what else do you call those wet blappy melted snowflakes?! Roads were fine, but once I turned onto the bike path, quickly realized that wasn't going to work. Ended up doing repeats on a section of road. It's not bad. Even though there are office buildings on both sides, the road is a wide 3 lanes. Got a bit boring, though! 7.4m, 1:04:51, 8:45pace 
I got a new CamelBak yesterday. I have the lumbar one, but never really liked it. Works great for day trip kind of things, just not for running. THe new one is a traditional backpack. I tried it out this morning. I love it! Once I got moving, I forgot it was there. Also forgot to drink. But, I'm thinking this one will work out nicely!

vashondan · Feb 26, 2008

Hey All 
Nice start to the day folks. I'm trying to decide whether or not to bag today's run. Lousy nights sleep and tired this morning. Waiting for the caffeine to kick in before making a final decision. 
Good new is the pooch took his first post surgery poop. Bad news is he needed to take it at 2 am. 
Tonya AND Phil - whassssssssss up?

tonya921 · Feb 26, 2008

Hi everyone. I must say, I didn't know my absence was going to cause such a scene. Thank you ALL for being concerned about me. <img alt="blush.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/blush.gif"> 
I've been doing a bit of evaluating lately--mainly looking at my running and its purpose. I started running 10 years ago for myself, but it seems as though lately I've been doing it for others, and not in a good way. I feel as though I've been living up to expectations other than my own, trying to be the best I can be--which is natural for me, don't get me wrong--but my intentions have not been for ME. I feel like I've been trying to prove something to someone, mainly this board. It's not anyone's fault, by any means; I'm blaming it on myself. My expectations have become something more than my own. I've been trying to meet someone else's expectations--whose, I don't know. 
Phillip and I talked about this on Sunday, and all I know is that the VRAA really did a number on me. I feel like I went into that whole thing with the mindset that my team would win. Period. When we didn't I felt like I let down a lot of people. But I didn't. No one expected me to do anything over the top. Everyone was in it for motivation and fun--except me. I was in it to win it. 
Through VRAA I proved to myself that I am NOT a team player, nor should I ever be. I just can't handle the pressure. When Phillip and I were talking this weekend, he pointed something out to me about the word "team:" 
There is no "I" in team, but there is a "T" for Tonya, and that's all I see. 
So I've been lurking, yes, but I really want to keep in mind who I'm running for, and make it fun to run again. I want to try not to get back into the habit of doing this for someone other than myself, or my running career is going to turn into just that--a job. 
So, over the past few days, if you really want to know, here is what I did: Saturday 
Elliptical - 12.88 miles, 66:00 
Run - 8.22 miles, 65:00, 7:53 pace Sunday 
Run - 12.02 miles, 1:35, 7:53 pace Monday 
OFF 
Today I will be probably be running 8+ miles, but may be doing something a little different. I'll be back later with the results on that. I am glad everyone is doing well. Great job on the runs everyone! And EQ, it's good that you are going to the doctor. I found out the hard way that no one is invincible. Except maybe boyerdavea. <img alt="wink.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif">

brianinptown · Feb 26, 2008

Good morning everyone 
I ran at 5:30am this morning (ugh) for a longer mid-week "speedish" workout. The plan called for: 
1 mile warmup 
2 miles at marathon goal pace (9:00) 
2x2 miles at Tempo pace (8:36) with a one minute recovery 
3 miles at marathon goal pace And the results are in: 
1 mile warmup: 11:08 
2 miles at mgp: 9:03, 9:07 
2x2 miles at tempo: 8:32, 8:31 (1:00) 8:27, 8:26 (1:00) 
3 miles at mgp: 9:06, 8:47, 8:58 Total miles: 10.2 
The first two / last two miles had a descent / ascent of about 265 feet, so it was pretty uphill at the end. I'm pretty happy with the results, but I'm still not that great at running exactly on pace! 
Shower time...I'll reply during my oatmeal breakfast!

kfuller · Feb 26, 2008

Brian-- How was the rest period during the 2x2 mile? Was it long enough? The whole workout looks good. Don't worry about the pace. I was suppose to be at 8:28 yesterday, but went 8:14 instead.

kfuller · Feb 26, 2008

Tonya-- It's good to see you back and I hope all is going well.

brianinptown · Feb 26, 2008

The rest period seemed fine. the pace wasn't very hard, so I didn't feel like I really needed a break, but it was nice because I could break up the run into bite-size pieces that way!

CMJHawk86 · Feb 26, 2008

A quick morning's greeting for now, more later in the day. I'm in the office but only for a couple of hours, then I have a meeting offsite in the afternoon. So I probably won't log on here again until the evening. 
I'm planning on 8 miles at marathon pace today. Pretty straightforward, just a steady, solid pace from start to finish. Hopefully I'll get to do it outdoors; I've done a lot of treadmill running lately and I think my mind just needs a break from it. The only potential problem is the weather (raining). It's supposed to be like this all day, but as long as it's not raining buckets, I'll put my raingear on and stick to doing it outside. Either way the run won't happen until at least around 5pm or so. 
Liz - it takes time to recover from a long-term cold/flu. My rule of thumb is approx. 2 days recovery for every day you were out. So it will be a while before you feel like yourself again but the good news is you're on the road back. 
Tonya - good luck sorting it all out. Believe it or not I can relate. Part of the reason I retired from competition before my senior year of college was that I just wasn't enjoying it anymore. I felt that I had never amounted to all the hype people put on me in high school. It took me 18 years to want to race again. My attitude and perspective are much different now at age 44 -- and I have a lot more fun. 
EQ - take care of yourself. Have you had a CAT scan yet? 
Dave - nice job on the time trial. You are going to blow that tri away. 
Brian - great job on the run. And yeah, Haystack Rock is awesome. 
4bm - nice job on the run in the slush storm (?). Guess that's we're getting here, too, it's just warmer so it's rain here. 
Mailbox - that's great you're adopting pets. We have rabbits and always adopt them rather than buy from a breeder. Nice running too. 
Loopy - nice job on the mileage last week. This is going to be a similarly high-mileage week for me after I mini-tapered for last weekend's race. 
RA - good luck with the 400s. It takes a while to recover from a big race, not to mention you just traveled halfway around the world and back; just listen to your body when you're out there and don't worry if you have to cut the reps a little short. You're still in great shape, just rebuilding. 
kfuller/Alex - good luck with the runs later 
RichardC - have fun with the yoga. I've never heard of having to do cardio beforehand to get warmed up but if that's what it takes, go for it! 
OK, I've already been on here longer than I should have been. Back to work and I'll check back in this evening. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">

brianinptown · Feb 26, 2008

ok, I've got my oatmeal and coffee next to me...time for some replies! 
Tonya: seems like you're getting a good perspective. The board is great for encouragement and a bit of accountability - but should never be a pressure-to-perform place! 
Dan: umm...good job on the pooch poop! Ok, that just doesn't sound right! Hope the caffeine helped! 
4bm: I've always wondered what those camelbacks were like...I always thought they'd bounce up and down during a run, but it's cool to see that they work good! I have the Amphipod belt, which is fine - I just think they look kind of nerdy! 
Mailbox: Maybe you should change your name to Doolittle! 4 cats!?! I have two dogs, and feel overwhelmed at times! 
RunAsics: Enjoy the track workout! 
Dave: Great job in breaking another time barrier! 
Loopy: Wow, 60+. My legs would probably fall off! 
Alex: Enjoy the recovery run 
Liz: Hope your recovery continues to go well. 
Richard: Yoga...um...enjoy your stretch!?! Ha - I'd probably get kicked out...I'm afraid my lack of flexibility will catch up with me sooner or later, but at the current age of 31 I never stretch before or after runs...probably should remedy that! 
Everyone else...talk to you later! 
Brian

tonya921 · Feb 26, 2008

Yeah, that's just it--I don't NEED accountability. I would run every single day, even if I was the only person on earth. That's what I miss about running--doing it for the sake of enjoyment.

Boyerdavea · Feb 26, 2008

Tonya, tonya, tonya - you need to get refocused on the pleasures of running and not trying to prove yourself to anyone but yourself. if you remove the joy of running, why run. Don't let anyone put the pressures on you to make you feel you need to prove youself. you set your goals, we just try and help you reach those goals through encouragement. And thanks for the prompts, but it is obvious that you were not around last january when I was out for the count. I was having major back issues and couldn't stand much less run. And then again in September witht he knee. I have just learned I can be running much more than 45-50 miles a week. Once I get over that mileage I get injured. Hmmm! I guess it is my age catching up to me. 
Brian - Impressive workout! I might have to try that one.

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