True that... The only time I've ever lost a big toe nail was because I drilled my foot into a rock in a brook section at Jay... It really only hurt for a split second... the icy cold water helped with the pain <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"> Short of steel toed work boots, I don't think there's a shoe that can prevent black toenails from toe stubbing on the trail.