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Trail runners....lend me your ears (eyes?) and brains for a moment please.....<br><br>
I'd been benched for more than two years with injury after injury from running-stress fractures, a mysterious hip injury which turned out to be spinal misalignment, ankle problems, PF, you name it, I probably had it. Add to this that I used to be a good 50+ pounds heavier when I started running (jenna and the old gang will remember that--ugghh) and had NO self esteem about my ability as a runner because I was "slow and fat" that the constant injuries eventually became an excuse to give up something I had grown to hate because of the mental beating I would take from myself on every training run. Grizz and I have had many conversations about that part over the years and I never could come to terms with it, so I basically gave up.<br><br>
I never really ran on "real" trails like you guys....Meri probably knows the one I like the best, the Pawlings Road side at VF park....flat and easy but a great 6-mile out and back, and the scenery was always pretty. Once when I was running there a baby deer popped out next to the trail and was close enough when I ran by to pat him on the nose if I wanted to. The look on his face wasn't one of fear, it was like "what's this, Mommy?" That moved me to tears and I think I cried the whole rest of the run. The deer there are so socialized that most of them aren't afraid of us anymore.<br><br>
Anyway, I digress (big surprise there!). I miss parts of running tremendously but have been having a hell of a time mentally getting back out there because I'll basically have to start over. I'm wondering if perhaps trail running would be a better option.....I love being in the woods, I don't mind getting dirty or wet, the scenery is much better than on the road, and the surfaces are still a little softer than concrete and asphalt. Despite its non-challenging status, I used to love that trail and some of my best, most peaceful runs were on it. And I've always wanted to do Ron's Pretzel City races, one of which altoids and Turtle just did. I know those trails are way more challenging than what I am used to, but that race report sounded like SO much fun! Plus, I secretly always harbored a dream to do an ultra someday, especially since my slow pace is more the norm than the exception in a long trail run. I've read meri's race report more times than I can count, and something in it just spoke to me. Eventually being able to do a race like Umstead someday would be probably one of the hugest accomplishments I could ever make.<br><br>
What made you guys pick trail running? What do you like most about it?<br><br>
(I'll save all the annoying questions about trail running shoes, waterproof socks and tougher trails to train on for later <img alt="wink.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif"> Right now I'm just exploring whether I'd like that better than road running & racing. Opinions??
 

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i started first running trails because my former running partner would not run on them and she was killing my training. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
What do you do Monday nights? our running group does a trail run every monday night at VF at 6pm. I run with the slow pokes, but there is a more "moderate" paced group as well. As long as you run trails every so often (a couple times a month) you should be fine for a trail race. Also supplement your training with a wobble board and jump roping to build those ankle muscles.
 

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This depends on your version of "slow"...what pace does the slowpoke group run?<br><br>
I work a lot of Monday nights but I can set my schedule ahead of time so I might be able to join you in a few weeks. I haven't been out in so long I probably couldn't do any distance right yet anyhow. <img alt="sad.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad.gif">
 

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I love trail running on several levels.<br><br>
1. <b>Aesthetic.</b> I just love being in the woods. I'm so relaxed and happy there, it's beautiful, you see animals, etc. The whole nature lover thing. I could go on and on with this one. It's refreshing to my soul.<br><br>
2. <b>Body mechanics.</b> I've found that I have less issues with various aches and pains when I run on trails. The softer running surface is kinder to my joints, and the uneven terrain is more suited to my whacked-up body alignment. I have a slight scoliosis, and find that I have issues in one side of my body (knee pain, piriformis issues) if I spend too much of my time on flat surfaces. Trail running helps me avoid injury.<br><br>
Trail running also strengthens your body in ways that road running won't, since you have to adjust to the terrain, you will improve your ankle strength, balance,etc and will engage more muscles than running on a flat surface.<br><br>
3. <b>Mental</b>. You can't just mindlessly left-right, left-right, you have to be looking ahead to pick your path, and be adjusting to the trail as it changes. You might not get this quite as much at VF, but I find it's like dancing along the trail sometimes. It's fun! Plus, more to look at, think about, wonder about on the trail.<br><br>
4. <b>Emotional</b>. Okay, so this is a bit harder to talk about. I'm a heavier, slower runner. When I run on sidewalks/roads, I am very self-conscious, and I feel like passers-by are judging my body size and/or speed. I know logically that they probably have other things to think about, but emotionally I can get so beaten down by negative self-talk that I don't even want to get out and run. When I'm out on the trail, I'm out of the vision of others. It's just me and the trail, and thoughts of how I look to other people don't enter the equation. It's very freeing.<br><br>
And because of the terrain, slowness is not a liability. Sometimes you have to walk, to avoid injuring yourself on obstacles. And it doesn't matter so much. Take a swig of water, look at those interesting critter tracks, sit on a log to adjust your laces. No big deal, just relax. I end up spending more time and distance running, and have a better experience when I'm done.<br><br>
I probably wouldn't have run Mt Penn if DETurtle hadn't been there. I had so much fun with her, and every time I reflect on that race, I feel happy and strong. I didn't run it fast, but I did run it fun. And that's the kind of thing that will keep me running.<br><br>
And let me know if you want to do some trail runs/races in the PA area, I'd be happy to run with you if you won't leave me in the dust. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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The slow group usually 10-11min, maybe more if more technical trails. The other faster group runs closer to 8:30-9, but depends on the trail.<br>
We usually run 6-7 miles. When you are ready, totally come out and run with us! it is a lot of fun <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> If you are not afraid of poison ivy, Evansburg State Park is great trail running. Pretty technical.
 

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This one speaks to me the most!!! I'm still by standards, chunky for my size. That pic I posted was from 2 years ago after I had just lost a considerable amount of weight doing South Beach and right before my last running injury. I've probably put on 15-20 lbs since then. I used to get like that when I was running regularly a LOT. Even more so now since I'm trying to start over....I can totally relate to not even wanting to get out and run because I feel like it's just slogging. But I really connect with that feeling of freedom on the trail--even in VF you see a lot of different people on the trails, not just the slim and trim fast runner types. I always felt more at home there too, and for the rest of the reasons you said. I love being in nature and it really IS cleansing, especially when I have something on my mind I need to work through. I can relate to a LOT of what you said here. Thank you for being so honest.<br><br>
I like this too! One of the biggest turn offs to road running for me was that speed thing. I doubt I could leave anyone in the dust.....seriously. I would berate myself from the time I started to the time I got done some days, about how fast I was going, eye glued to the watch, you'll never get any faster, yada yada......and it ruined the joy of running for me altogether. I like the idea of just chillin out in the woods, taking in the scenery, getting some exercise and relaxing. Kinda like a yoga mindset almost, except you're moving, not twisting into a pretzel. Much more what I'm trying to achieve in the way of balance in my life these days. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
That's exactly what I want too. Wow. You really hit the core there.<br><br>
I doubt I would leave anyone in the dust.....seriously. But you have such a great attitude, I bet we'd have a ball. Let me get over this stupid sinus infection and get back out there a bit first.........and thank you for sharing all that. You spoke to me on so many levels, you have no idea......<br><br>
You guys are great! I'm so glad you came over here!!!
 

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We're the PA trail runner posse <img alt="icon_flower.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/icon_flower.gif"><img alt="icon_flower.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/icon_flower.gif"><img alt="icon_flower.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/icon_flower.gif">
 

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I'm real close to Evansburg!! And I would love to do that 10 miler in October. I've done the 5K while my friends were romping in the woods, but they had so much fun I wanna do it.....maybe that would be a good goal race??<br><br>
I could probably handle the slowpokes....I don't think I've ever run an 8:30 in my life....LOL......with a little more time back out there. I'm not ready for that much distance yet but it will give me something to shoot for. I haven't been running consistently in ages and my chiro just gave me the go ahead to try again. Sigh.
 

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The Evansburg race would be a perfect goal race for you! Ease back into it. Evansburg is a great place to run. I am deathly allergic to poison ivy so i cannot run there spring- fall and then they have hunting season in the fall <img alt="sad.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad.gif"><br><br>
Once you get back in the swing of things, let me know when you want to come run with us one Monday night. We would never leave you behind.
 

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Thank you so much, Meri! I really think I am going to try this, even if I start with my little wussy trail that I love......I bet my baby deer's all grown up now! <img alt="wink.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif">
 

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I'd like that!!! Is there a kinda halfway meeting place that would work?? You're out near the Burgh, yes? I have a couple good friends out there and wouldn't mind a trip thataway either. It's only 5.5 hours to Latrobe from my house.
 

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Ooooh, now THAT looks like fun! Especially since it sounds like it doesn't have to be all running. Hmmm.......I've walked as far as 15 miles before but not with that steep a climb. Good time of year, too, the worst of the heat should be over with although the bugs will be horrific I bet.<br><br>
Hmmm.......
 

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Come out this way, then i will buy you a vegan buffet lunch afterwards <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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That was what i was hoping <img alt="wink.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif"><br><br>
come on, doesn't your DH wanna visit his brother soon?? <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"><img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"><img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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Yeah, just come out to visit, our old Philly gang used to get together just for the heck of it. We didn't always need a race, although that's an added incentive.<br><br>
Vegan buffet where?? I'd like to try that!!<br><br>
Oh, and if you're into crystals and Native American stuff, I have a great little place for you to check out, right across from Kimberton Whole Foods.
 

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hehe. i shop at Kimberton all the time and have been into the store, earth speak??<br><br>
vegan buffet is in Malvern on Rt 3, Su Dao. YUMMY. What's your schedule like? we could totally meet one day <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 
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