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How many of y'all learned how to swim (or swim better) by TI? Im asking because right now is the first time I've ever learned to swim properly, and I have seen marked improvement in my swimming. I am really glad, because I sucked pretty hard at the swim.<br><br>
(I have a cush deal too. Im in a $15 a month tri group and the coach is a certified TI instructor :banana<img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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So Snooze, I have the DVD, and I took a lesson last summer from a TI coach.<br><br>
Do you do the drills instead of swimming laps? I'm worried that if I spend all this time on drills I won't gain swim fitness.<br><br>
Anything has to be better than the inefficient stroke I have now!!
 

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I first read the TI book after checking it out from the library about 5 times. Couldn't get the gist of the drills until I bought the DVD, then it made significantly more sense. I started in Aug 2004 not being able to swim 25 yards without difficulty to IM swims nonstop with ease (avg times ~ 1:26). Practice those drills and schedule a race to try them in. The TI approach was great for me as I liked learning at a comfortable pace, versus the master's swim pain fest.<br><br>
My most difficult issues started with relaxed breathing, I then I worked on endurance, now trying to get faster little by little, but still remembering all the drills and any other great information that others impart.
 

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Well, I think the number one thing that hinders my swimming development (and speed for that matter), is my technique. So in order to actually survive those laps, I need to be able to do it correctly. I've had four lessons, and I'd say that half the time I am doing the drills, and the other half she has me swimming full strokes. I have made a ton of improvement so far and it will make a difference very quickly from the evidence so far. I think it's totally worth it to do it right, then work on going it right for a long time.
 

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I have TI and have read bits and pieces, but I think a lot of it is hard to 'get' if you don't have visual aids-at least that's how I learn. There is a girl at my pool that does TI stuff and I have watched and copied. Mostly though I go to goswim and pick drills as instructed by my coach.
 

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I downloaded the video and watched it before my coach was there, so it helped visualize what she was telling me to do.
 

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I'm sure that's true for me too.<br><br>
But I did 1100 yards this morning without any trouble, slowly. I just don't want to stop doing the distances, if you know what I mean.<br><br>
I should suck it up and go to a TI seminar here. But they are like $400 for a 2 day thing (good deal, but pricy).
 

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I think you're at the stage I was last year, wyrillco. My form was so bad, I wasn't able to even get up past 100 yd without gasping. It was actually when I started incorporating the TI drills in where I was able to get in the non-stop longer swims farther than 1000yd, and I was able to slowly but surely get thru the 700 yd in my tri last September.<br><br>
I could use a TI seminar here too for someone to fine tune my form, but you're right, they're super pricy (they're $500 here where I am.) For that rate, it almost seems like I could fly to Atlanta and attend a Coach Carole session or sumptin for the same price <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

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When I decided I have to improve my swim, I did a lot of their drills. Now, I incorporate them in my regular drill sessions... they feel very natural.<br>
The book is cool, I also got the video but didn't watch it yet.
 

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I guess I need to get out my DVD and watch it. When I watched it originally it was kind of confusing, but after meeting with the coach, hopefully it will make more sense.<br><br>
I could do lessons, but they are expensive, and the 2 day seminar would be way more cost effective.
 

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Courtney- I just stumbled on this article in Triathlete Mag that shed some light on your question, especially this part.<br><br><a href="http://www.triathletemag.com/Departments/Training/2007/Can_you_learn_talent__or_do_you_take_the_same_stroke_100_000_times_.htm" target="_blank">http://www.triathletemag.com/Departm...000_times_.htm</a><br><br><i>Average performers tend to feel they’re getting the job done if they simply grind out long sets of freestyle repeats. But too often that just means the same freestyle stroke imprinted thousands of times. Expert performers tirelessly experiment or refine with every drive, swing or stroke. They set specific goals, tirelessly self-check, stay in the moment and never become complacent. Tiger Woods scrutinizes videos or snapshots of his swing, analyzes each part, then drills subtle tweaks until they’re automated responses. Further, his swing is never good enough. Even when he was already winning more than anyone else, he took it apart, endured a year of adjustment (and – for him – mediocre results) then emerged more dominant than ever.<br><br>
While average swimmers focus mainly on recording a certain yardage figure, satisfied to repeat the same unimproved stroke over and over, Alexandre Popov, the world’s fastest swimmer for an astonishing 11 years, constantly tinkered and polished. When asked why Popov sometimes trained six hours a day for races that lasted less than 50 seconds, his coach, Gennady Touretski said, “More opportunities to imprint correct technique.”<br><br>
The most relevant message in all of this for adult athletes is that we should tackle new challenges -- especially those we thought required talents we’re not sure we possess. Swimming is unique among all sports in the opportunity it offers to compensate for physical ordinariness with superior mindfulness. Moving a human body through water requires so many subtle skills that the combination of time and clear focus can add more to your mastery than whatever age may subtract from your physical capacity.<br></i>
 

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Thanks, Snooze! I'll read the whole thing, but that part seems to really hit home.<br><br>
Except, I'd be lucky to call myself an average swimmer. <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

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I can attest that practicing more than simply bouncing off each wall will get you where you want to be swimming goal wise. I did a scheduled time trial (warm up, 3 x 300 yd FS, cool down) last night and I noticed over 5 seconds per 100 yd improvement in just the last month, and compared to my previous 2 years of TTs, it's the fastest yet. I still envision the drills as I swim, trying to better things like my catch and pull, etc.<br><br>
One thing I do like about the DVD -- I can always put it on and watch it to refresh my memory on a particular drill, how it's best performed. There's no way I would have been able to remember everything a good coach would be shown me.<br><br>
01/31/08 -- (05:29, 05:28, 05:27) <b>AVERAGE 100yd = <span style="color:#FF0000;">1:49.5</span></b><br>
02/28/08 -- (05:15, 05:07, 05:12) <b>AVERAGE 100yd = <span style="color:#FF0000;">1:43.9</span></b><br>
 

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I started playing around with TI a year or so ago, but didn't really focus on the drills, so I wasn't doing anything correctly. When I started swimming again in January, I decided to do the 0 to 1650 program (which is 6-weeks long), and do one of the TI drills each week, either before or after my actual workout. I still didn't really get it until I watched the videos online, but I'm about to enter week 6 of 0 to 1650 (and drill 6 of TI), and my stroke is exponentially better than it was in January. For those of you who have the DVD, is it worth it?
 

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Personally, for me yes. I practiced the drills 3 times a week, and noticed the improvement. Plus, I didn't have the $$$$ to drop on a TI seminar. Plus, now my wife is using the DVD, as she's starting to train for her first tri. We'll be practicing tomorrow after watching a few of the drills tonight.
 

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I think the DVD is definitely worth it. TI got me from not knowing how to swim freestyle at all, through my first two sprints.
 
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