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For whatever reason I’ve been thinking about race pics since whomever it was commented about a good race pic being a goal. Maybe because (at work) we’ve been analyzing what we hate about the photos the former consultant took, and what we’d have done differently.<br><br>
Anyway. Hopefully I can make some sense.<br><br>
Race photos seem to be a crap shoot. The most important variables are beyond our control. And race photographers are trying to take as many pics of as many people as they possibly can. They’re not trying to make us pretty.<br><br><b>Lighting</b> - HUGE factor. Good lighting can mean the difference between looking like a whale or one of the Olson twins. Or the difference between sausage legs and quadzillas. Bright, sunny days are terrible for photos. Besides making you squint, the bright light bouncing off everything makes you look flat. (On the other side of that, no light bouncing around is bad too.) Flat lighting = fatness. You need the contrast of highlights and shadows to look 3 dimensional. You don’t have any control over the weather, you’re stuck with what you got. But partly cloudy days are probably best.<br><br><b>Camera angle/body position</b> - another big factor. Straight on shots aren’t flattering on anyone. You ever notice how models rarely take head-on full body shots? And if they do they push their shoulders back and twist at the waist and have their hands on their hips? That’s to create a more flattering silhouette. They don’t actually have their hands on their hips, they’re sort of cocked forward, so there are only a few inches between their finger tips. The less space between the finger tips the smaller their waist looks. If they don’t have their hands on their hips they will make sure to have space between their arms and body. It helps separate shapes and prevents them from looking like a tree trunk.<br><br>
In an article I read a few years ago about celebrity photography, Demi Moore admitted that she has a weak chin/jaw line, and to counter that, she lowers her chin slightly in all photos. Lowering her chin creates a shadow under her jaw, which in turn makes her chin/jaw line look stronger. In pretty much every posed picture I’ve seen of her, she is holding her head the same way. And I’m sure you can think of other celebrity types who are always in the same position when they are photographed. They know what makes them look good, and do it automatically.<br><br>
Since we’re focused on the race, it’s not like we can strike a flattering pose and make pretty. Or we could, but we’d piss off a whole bunch of people behind us.<br><br>
I knew when I ran past the squatting photographers at Grand Rapids that I was going to hate those pics. Squatting photographers puts the camera right at hip level on me. Which is not exactly something I want/need to emphasize. Sure enough, I hate the squatting pics.<br><br><b>Clothing</b> - Ok, this one you do have control over, but you’ve got to figure out what works/is flatting for you. Normally I wear somewhat close fitting shirts that hit at my high hip. In GR I had on a shirt that was somewhat baggy on me, and the hem hit right at the widest part of my hips. That, combined with the squatting photographers = fatness.<br><br>
I'm sure there's more, buy that's all I got right now.<br><br>
So what am I saying here? I haven’t figured that out yet. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"><br><br>
Don’t feel bad about the ugly pics. We all take them. It really is a crap shoot. You can’t control the 2 biggest factors. Take a look at your old race photos, figure out what you hate about them, and see if there is anything you can change.
 

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Race pics that I like are usually ones where I’m having fun.<br><br>
Some examples...<br>
Photographer was a friend of mine, and I was flailing about trying to get her attention. It works because 1) good lighting, 2) I’m twisted at the waist (so it looks like I have one) and 3) the shirt fits.<br><img alt="" src="http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa10/katholeenie/RFTC07-lo.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
I like this one, despite it being my suckiest race ever. More straight on than I normally like, but my clothes fit, there is enough space around my limbs and a nice highlight on my hip...<br><img alt="" src="http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa10/katholeenie/clevelandfinish.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
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For a little balance, one I don’t like. It’s too straight on, baggy shirt, the light is mostly flat, my face looks fat, not enough space between limbs, the photog was squatting... and on and on...<br><img alt="" src="http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa10/katholeenie/e-GR-hill2007.jpg" style="border:0px solid;">
 

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Good points <b>Katholeenie</b><br><br>
Ive only been in 4-5 races that they had professional photographers. Of all the pics I have seen taken of me, I think they pretty much show me how I am.<br><br>
The only issues I have with clothing is one pair of my Nike shorts. They never cooperate in pics <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
Nice legs!
 

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In my very first HM, I could clearly see that I was slouching at the end. Slouching = fatness too. Ever since then I have tried to mind my posture late in the race when I'm tired, although more because I know that it could affect my breathing. And I try to smile if I see the photographer.<br><br>
When I dislike photos now, it's almost always for the same reason. When you lose as much weight as I have, you have extra skin which tends to move somewhat independently from the rest of your body. I've seen some really odd photos of me, let me tell you! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Laughing"><br><br>
What I've learned to tell myself is that the camera captures a split second of time, and what it shows in the photograph is probably not even noticeable to a person on the street watching me live. That the overall impression I am giving is of a fit, healthy woman, and that anyone watching me is wishing they were me.
 

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Its funny you mentioned one of your fav pix is for one of your worst races. That's what happened to me at philly. I love my flag picture because I have my hands on my hips & a fitted black shirt. The others are good because it was cloudy but the tree colors gave a great background.<br><br><img alt="" src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p189/hlaudet/8kFlag.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><img alt="" src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p189/hlaudet/8k2.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><img alt="" src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p189/hlaudet/8k1.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
I just have to figure out a better way to smile & hold my head when I have a pony tail in. I have a prominent chin & then I think it almost looks like I have a double chin.<br><br>
All in all I like seeing my pictures to see how my legs look, lol. Sometimes I hide in fear & sometimes I get excited to see some improvement in definition.<br><br>
I just want one picture with both feet airborne. That always looks so cool!
 

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<b>kathleen-</b><br>
that was a really nice thing to share with everyone. i know i am guilty of the 'ohmygosh...is that what i reallly look like in real life????" i did that with one kris took of me last weekend... then realized there was a man hole behind me that made my hips and thighs look man hole cover sized.
 

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You are smokin' something. You looked great in that photo. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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<b>Kath</b> - nice thoughts. So much of it is out of our control though. You always seem to get great shots of you though!<br><br>
I like the idea of posting your most and least faves:<br><br>
I think this is my fave. Obviously I never would have gotten this from a big race since you can't see my number. DW shot this one. A bunch of the smaller local races though have someone shoot everyone with a point and shoot as they go by and just put the whole gallery on the web. Some of those can come out pretty nice.<br><br><img alt="" src="http://tomjanofsky.com/images/fave2.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
That picture captures a lot about that race, how hot it was, how fast I thought i was going, how hard I was working (you can see it in my shoulders). I like it.<br><br>
Least favorite? I usually trash the really bad ones. This one makes me look like a close relative of Fozzy Bear. Plus the dude in the Army shirt was way annoying. And we look like we are racewalking.<br><br><img alt="" src="http://tomjanofsky.com/images/least.jpg" style="border:0px solid;">
 

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This is my favorite, even though (a) I look like I'm walking, (b) the chick in the khaki shorts is ahead of me, and (c) my legs look too skinny.<br><br>
I like it because I look happy and relaxed. Halfway point at the San Diego Rock & Roll Marathon, June 2005.<br><br><img alt="" src="http://i15.tinypic.com/81sylav.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
I don't save the bad ones, for obvious reasons. I'll see if I can find any.
 

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I don't have any pictures and I will hold off on my comment of the above quote until Friday. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy">
 

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It's Friday in Australia, right? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/razz.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Razz">
 

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I agree. She's smokin' HOT!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy">
 

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From the same race. This one was at the start line. Can you tell how sTrEsSeD I was??<br><br>
When I got all the race pics, I sent the link to my brother. He emailed me back, "They are good, but who's the old Greek lady in that one pic?"<br><br><img alt="" src="http://i3.tinypic.com/85orms8.jpg" style="border:0px solid;">
 
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