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<p>Plans:  Post 'em if you've got 'em.</p>
<p>Question: for you, what is mysterious about running? </p>
<p>Sorry the totals were delayed this week.  Jet lag, among other things.</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(75,0,130);">Tamster:</span> <strong>24.5 M</strong>, date night after 2 days rest (no comment)</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,205);">JJJessee:</span> <strong>20.95 M</strong>.  This is a guy who likes to do what he feels like and not a 0.05 M more.</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(0,255,255);">Hally:</span> <strong>5.5 M</strong>, 1 hr ellip, 2.5 M snowshoeing</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(255,140,0);">OM:</span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);"><strong>40.1 M</strong></span> (after thinking she wouldn't hit 40 again) and yoga</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);">Heme:</span> <strong>26.6 M</strong>, getting ready to gear up for a 50K in 4 months</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(0,128,128);">Opie:</span> <strong>29 M</strong> and some deep tissue massage</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0);">HappyFeat:</span> <strong>32 M</strong> again.  Consistency is good</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0);">FortunateOne:</span> <strong>9 M</strong> running, 6 M walking on the beach, and 6 hr waiting on the tarmac</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(0,128,0);">Labduck:</span>  {{Lab}}</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,205);">Evanflein:</span> <span style="color:rgb(255,0,0);"><strong>54.5 M</strong></span>, with some walking, ellip and weights too</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(178,34,34);">BTY:</span> <strong>33.5 M</strong> and extensive core work. Winter won't last forever!</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(165,42,42);">Paul:</span> <span style="color:rgb(255,0,0);"><strong>52.7 M</strong></span> with 2 rest days.  WTG, Paul.</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);">Dove</span>: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);"><strong>47 M</strong></span>, with the week's plan derailed by food poisoning {Dove}</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,128);">Fred-urie</span>: come back when you feel like it</p>
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<p>JJVoo: you gotta gimme the total of what you actually did, Jimmy</p>
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<p>Baba O'Riley: I'll post your total here if you update last week's weekly thread</p>
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<p>Thanks FO!</p>
<p>Let me consult my Ouija board and get back to you with that answer.</p>
<p>Monday=2 miles</p>
<p>Tuesday rest</p>
<p>Wednesday=30 min elliptical 30 min weights</p>
<p>Thursday=30 min elliptical</p>
<p>Friday=2.1 miles</p>
<p>Saturday=2.25 miles 30 min weights</p>
<p>Sunday=3 miles</p>
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<p><strong>Totals</strong></p>
<p><strong>9.35 miles</strong></p>
<p><strong>elliptical twice weights twice</strong></p>
 

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<p>I guess the mystery for me is how we as masters runners can continue, not only to run, but even improve, that running can change us in a positive way when so many other changes at this time can be negative or there is very little change.</p>
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<p>Speaking of change, I will post the plan but as Paul mentioned in the daily, old man winter is banging on the door so we shall see...</p>
<p>Although I don't have a marathon scheduled, we're starting to look at a goal time of 3:52, taking my goal half time x 2 +10 min., so I'm supposed to start running the Yasso 800's in 3 min., 52 sec.  4 min. would be more typical in the past.</p>
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<p>Day.......................Plan.........................................................................................................................................................................................................Actual</p>
<p>Monday...lunch yoga; after work, swim 45 minutes + run 3 miles....................................................................................................................done-3 mi. + the other stuff</p>
<p>Tuesday...rest....................................................................................................................................................................................................................done</p>
<p>Wednesday...maybe XC ski................................................................................................................................................................................done-about 26 minutes</p>
<p>Thursday...treadmill: warmup, (800m x 3) + (400m x 4), cooldown......................................................................................................................................done-8 mi.</p>
<p>Friday.......more snow, so resting..........................................................................................................................................................................................done</p>
<p>Saturday...LR............................................................................................................................................................................................................done-10.41 mi.</p>
<p>Sunday.....6-8 mi. if weather cooperates..............................................................................................................................................done-6 mi. with 3.5 tempo in the middle</p>
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<p>Total.................................................................................................................................................................................................27.41 mi.</p>
 

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<p>Thanks FO. The thought that came to me as I was running this morning was about how when you set out looking for bliss, you don't find it, and that it happens when you're not really trying for it. Those blissfully perfect runs, every so often we get one and then we try so hard to replicate the conditions in order to get a taste of that perfection again.... I suppose that's a mystery in a way. I'd like to think that the bliss does exist, just that we're trying too hard to "find" it, and so we miss the mark. I guess just having faith that it <em>is</em> out there somewhere, and if we just run with the best of intentions, the bliss will find us.</p>
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<p>Another wide-open week for me. All the merrier. :)</p>
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<p>Mon........... 4 miles</p>
<p>Tue............ 60 min stationary bike (16 miles), 3 miles (TM)</p>
<p>Wed.......... 7 miles (TM intervals) ***INJURY***</p>
<p>Thur........... rest day, 45 min (11 miles) stationary bike</p>
<p>Fri............. yoga at home</p>
<p>Sat............ yoga class</p>
<p>Sun........... yoga class, 65 minutes (7.2 miles) elliptical</p>
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<p>totals: 14 miles run, 27 miles stationary bike, 7.2 miles elliptical, 3x yoga</p>
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<p>....hmm, perhaps the mystery is how long can I go without an injury... ok, gonna take some time off from here for a while, have to seriously get my butt out of a sling and keep it that way!</p>
 

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<p>Thanks FO!</p>
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<p>hmmm, interesting question . . . yet, I don't have an answer to that one. maybe my caffeine hasn't quite kicked in to get my brain in high gear.</p>
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<p>plans for the week:</p>
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<p>mon: ..... run ................. 4.2 mi</p>
<p>tues: ..... intervals .......... busy day. no time to run</p>
<p>wed: ...... rest ................ 9.5 mi w/ 6x4 min intervals at 7:30 pace</p>
<p>thu: ....... run ................. 4 mi</p>
<p>fri: .......... run ................. rest, under the weather</p>
<p>sat: ........ long run (15) ..... 13 miles</p>
<p>sun: ....... short run ........... lazy</p>
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<p>total mileage: 30.7</p>
 

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<p>Three things about running puzzle me: How come the best runs happen when you start out feeling awful? How come running long (4 or more hours for me) seems to "fix" all the niggly aches and pains? and finally, how come, no matter what the distance, the first 3 miles and the last 10% are always hard?</p>
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<p>This week I should cut back a bit, but I don't really want to.</p>
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<p>Monday: rest................................................................weights</p>
<p>Tuesday: 6..................................................................6 miles</p>
<p>Wednesday: 10............................................................8 miles</p>
<p>Thursday: 6.................................................................8 miles</p>
<p>Friday: 6.....................................................................weights</p>
<p>Saturday: ? maybe 12 on the trail?................................4 miles</p>
<p>Sunday: depends on what I do on Saturday....................10 miles</p>
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<p><strong>Total: 2 weight sessions, 36 miles running</strong></p>
 

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<p>Thanks, FO! The most mysterious thing to me about running is that sometimes the best runs happen at the most illogical times. Like when I'm tired. Or just ran hard the day before. And sometimes the runs you have to really force yourself to get out to do, end up being really really nice. I don't get it, but it works! (of course, the flip side is the sucky runs when everything should be good... don't understand those either, but they happen!)</p>
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<p>Monday: 12 minutes (1.5 miles) elliptical, 20 minutes weights at lunch; 4 hilly miles run and a .5 mile walk after work</p>
<p>Tuesday: 17:20 minutes (2.2 miles) elliptical, 10 minutes abs/core; 6.3 snowy miles and .5 mile walk after work</p>
<p>Wednesday: 8.1 hilly miles outside, 3.43 on the treadmill for 11.5 total, and .4 mile walk c/d</p>
<p>Thursday: 12 minutes (1.4 miles) elliptical, 25 minutes weights, 6.2 miles run on the treadmill, .8 mile walking</p>
<p>Friday: No run; travel to Juneau late afternoon</p>
<p>Saturday: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68);">11.1 mile tempo run, 7:59 avg pace (weee!), .4 mile walk</span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:1em;margin-top:0em;margin-right:0em;margin-bottom:0em;margin-left:0em;">Sunday: 21.4 miles run, 8:22 pace on ice, snow and dry pavement, 1.3 mile walk</p>
<p style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:1em;margin-top:0em;margin-right:0em;margin-bottom:0em;margin-left:0em;"> </p>
<p style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:1em;margin-top:0em;margin-right:0em;margin-bottom:0em;margin-left:0em;">Totals: 60.6 miles run, 3.9 miles walked, 5.1 miles elliptical and weights</p>
 

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<p>I would echo Dove's post...my thoughts exactly!   Well except for the running "4 hours" part since I've never done that; but it does seem that it takes about 4 miles to work the kinks out.</p>
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<p>Monday:............ 5....................DONE, each mile 15 seconds faster than the last. Rt calf tight and crampy from the weekend run.</p>
<p>Tuesday: ...........4....................DONE...slowly..but perhaps not slow enough to be a "recovery run." Rt calf fine; now Lt AT tight.</p>
<p>Wednesday:.......8....................DONE...alternating every 1/4 mile faster and slower by 15 seconds; was harder than last week - and slower by 2 minutes.</p>
<p>Thursday: ..........4...................ZIP....yoga seemed the wiser choice tonight.</p>
<p>Friday:..............Rest................yoga again.</p>
<p>Saturday:...........12..................10 seemed wiser and went very well, managed to keep my pace slower than last week and closer to the goal.</p>
<p>                                                  Rt AT tight again..I suspect the TM is the cause. Lt upper shin hurt when walking to car..hope nothing's brewing there.</p>
<p>Sunday:...........Rest................</p>
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<p>Total: 27</p>
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<p>Note for next week: scrap the newly introduced twice weekly speed workout and just do one a week until legs adjust to the added demand.</p>
 

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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">Monday:............ rest 24:00:00....................</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">Tuesday: ...........0:45:00....................</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">Wednesday:......1:30:00.................... </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">Thursday: ..........0:45:00....................</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">Friday:.............1:30:00.................</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">Saturday:...........0:45:00..................</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">Sunday:...........2:05:00................</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;"> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">What is mysterious about running? </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">The "missing time" during long runs and the tiny heart-rate monitor implants I keep sneezing out afterwards.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">When the implant is put under a microscope, one can see a tiny "Polar, The Pleiades" logo on it.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">Mysterious.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:2px;padding-left:0px;">--Jimmy</p>
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<p>I'll echo Erika's comment.  I've given up trying to analyse the good runs and the bad, except where the reason is obvious, which isn't very often.</p>
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<p>This week?</p>
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<p>M............. <strong>4</strong></p>
<p>T.............. <strong>spin</strong></p>
<p>W............. <strong>5.7</strong></p>
<p>T ............. <strong>5.8</strong></p>
<p>F.............. <strong>XT/core / massage</strong></p>
<p>S.............. <strong>12.1</strong></p>
<p>S.............  <strong>rest</strong></p>
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<p>Alien abductions, Jimmy?? <span><img alt="rolleyes.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/rolleyes.gif"></span></p>
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<p>Total:  <strong>27.6</strong> miles</p>
 

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<p>It is a mystery how something so demanding (of time, discipline, money, friendships, pain, injury, etc.) can be so satisfying and addictive.</p>
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<p>My plan (<strong>and what's done</strong>):</p>
<p>M............. rest</p>
<p>T.............. volleyball</p>
<p>W............. <strong>6 M</strong> on TM with 2 @ tempo pace</p>
<p>T ............. volleyball</p>
<p>F.............. <strong>4 M</strong> on TM, snow shoveling</p>
<p>S.............. <strong>13 M</strong> and snow shoeing</p>
<p>S.............. unplanned rest to deal with foot discomfort</p>
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<p>Total:  <strong>23 M</strong></p>
 

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<p>Thanks F.O.</p>
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<p>M - 8 miles</p>
<p>T - snow shoveling</p>
<p>W - recovery from snow shoveling</p>
<p>Th - recovery from snow shoveling</p>
<p>F - recovery from snow shoveling</p>
<p>Sa - 10.9 miles</p>
<p>Su - 6 miles</p>
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<p><strong>Total - 24.9 miles</strong></p>
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<p>Thanks FO,</p>
<p>The mystery to me is "getting to the most efficient gait, heel and knee lift, generally "perfecting form" seems to lie outside the grasp of reason.</p>
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<p>Topsyturvy tough week for me.</p>
<p>I only ran twice.</p>
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<p>S...7.9 with fartleks</p>
<p>S...15 miles of single track trudging.</p>
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<p>JJJ.....22.9</p>
 
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