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I have noticed for awhile that the inside of the arch on the right foot is starting to be a bit bothersome. Not sure what is causing it. This morning it was especially tight. I have been using the yaxtraks and have done all my runs outdoors except Wednesday. I started noticing it before the snowshoes but I think the snowshoes don't help because of the crampons. I have been going up and down stairs alot lately, carrying 40 pound bags of pellets and feeding the fire in the wood stove downstairs. I noticed when I climb stairs that I climb with my toes. I also spend time on my toes kneeling while cutting kindling. I am not sure if that is what is causing it or if it is just making it worse. Any thoughts on this?<br><br>
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Larry, could it be PF?<br>
Does it bother you when you take your first steps out of bed in the morning, and start to feel better with use? When you press on it with your finger, can you identify a particular sore spot?
 

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Hi Cassadaamius. Yes it is right in the middle of the arch, I can press on a particular spot and it is sore. It is worse in the morning and gets better after moving about a bit, unless I stress it. The muscle or tendon along the arch is tight. Thanks, Larry
 

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Uh oh.....<br>
(hey Larry, I don't run in YakTrax because my running friend said they put pressure on the bottom of your feet in spots... sort of like having a stone or stick in your shoe... maybe it's just a bruise? But that wouldn't "get better" as you get going)
 

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Cue rumbling tympani and a malicious-sounding cello.
 

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Sorry to say but it sounds like PF to me.
 

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That early in the morning pain sounds like PF, massage foot and calf before rising in the AM. Mine always was aggravating for the first coulpa miles and again after 10-12. But its different for everybody.Ice helps alot. Just slow down until you can find what works. I've ordered some Walk-Fits. Whatever though, it's probably gonna take a little while.<br>
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Oh no! <img alt="uhoh2.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/uhoh2.gif"><br><br>
Larry, you need to nip this in the bud NOW. I was stoopid and kept running on what I thought was just plantar fasciitis, when I had actually tore the plantar fascia. If you think the pain has just come on gradually, you probably are just in the early stages of plantar fasciitis. If you can pinpoint an incident where you think you may have bruised your arch or heel, then you may have a slight tear in the plantar fascia. It's very important to determine what you think the impetus was for this pain.<br><br>
The treatment course of action for the plantar fasciitis involves stretching. This is not good for a plantar fascia tear. I made the mistake of stretching a torn plantar fascia and I'm still trying to recover from it six months later. If you think it's a tear, go see a podiatrist ASAP.<br><br>
Good luck!<br><br>
ETA: Sal, LOL!
 

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Thanks all for the input. I just went for a short run of 6 miles and it did not bother me unless I ran at my usual slow speed, had to pick it up a bit but it turned out to be a nice run without any indication that there was a problem. As soon as I got home, took the shoes off it felt tight like this morning. Walking around barefooted seems to agrivate it a little. I cannot recall stepping on anything or doing something to bump the tendon itself. I do not feel any tightness towards the heel. The one thing I read about was stretching it but I fear stretching an injured muscle because of past experiences with that. I guess I will have to do some agressive research as I don't want a lay off from running. Thanks, Larry
 

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Larry, as you know I had a terrible bout of PF. It all healed but left a thick spot on the inside (medial) arch.. the part that connects the heel to the big toe. Sometimes it starts to get a bit sore on the side but not at the heel. What I do is put the foot in a night splint (at night only) for a couple/few days until it feels fine first steps in the morning. The night splints keep the foot bent and the plantar fascia taught so it can heal properly. If the micro tears which cause the soreness are repaired with the foot pointed in the normal sleep fashion, when you get up and stand, the fascia stretches and the repairs tear again (the ouch part). Upon running or even walking the fascia stretches and gives slack so it's not tearing and stops hurting. The tale tale signs are "worse with first steps". DW got me a soft night splint for Christmas and I've used it a few times since. My foot feels better than ever and my weekly mileage is in the 50's again.<br><br><a href="http://www.footsmart.com/P-Night-Splint-Passive-FootSmart-10097.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.footsmart.com/P-Night-Spl...art-10097.aspx</a><br><br><br>
PF is insisious because if you do something bad to it it might take 2 days to feel the results.<br><br>
Hope this helps,<br><br>
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I took a look at some of the foot braces on the internet, but that would take time to get one of those and there are so many choices. Last night I decided to try something simple. Rolled up a sock, placed it across the offending tendon and pulled a sock up over it. Went to bed, got up this morning and very little stiffness in the foot as compared to yestarday morning. Can something so simple be a cure? Will probably do this for the next several days and avoid using my toes on the stairs. Thanks for the replies, Larry
 

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Hi Larry, you're getting a lot of good advice here. The only suggestion I might add would be this: If you're certain that there was no acute onset, then stretching and reducing the tightness will help. I am presently keeping the same problem at bay by rolling a tennis ball aggressively under my arches several times a day. Find the spots that hurt in particular and use the ball underfoot to release those tight areas. I think you are doing a similar thing by using the rolled up sock. The other thing to concentrate on would be stretching out your calves. I think you do a lot hilly mileage, and keeping those calf muscles elongated and supple will help prevent pf and any achilles issues.<br><br>
GL<br>
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Aija, you said " I think you do a lot hilly mileage". That might be the culprit. Doing the flat LV marathon and prepairing on the flattest courses that I could work out kind of took me for the most part out of agressive hill running. The first thing that I have wanted to do since is hit the trails and as many hills as I could find, there are lots of those around here. Probably need to back off that and ease back into it. Did six yestarday on a flat multiuse path in Hamilton without problems, though even on the hills I hadn't noticed it. I will try the tennis ball as it sounds like a great idea, i have used that for butt pain before right on the spot where it hurts and it worked great for that. Thanks, Larry
 

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Second day of rolled up sock over the offending muscle while wearing an additional sock to hold it in place really works. Got up this morning, no tightness or pain. I think that a week of that should insure that this goes away. Odd that something so simple might prevent a chronic injury. Thanks again for all the input. Larry
 

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Good news Larry! Keep at the prevention. I think you caught it in the early onset stages and with good luck and care you'll continue to keep it at bay.
 
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