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I just got an email from Triathlon Canada, with info about the 2008 World Championships in Vancouver. Back in September, I qualified for the AG-Worlds (Sprint). I was pretty pumped about the whole experience. The people in Vancouver just released the entry-fees for the race - they want $300 for a sprint. THAT'S INSANE! There's over $300 in required gear, and then the entry fee, and then the flight, etc., etc. I'm thinking about skipping the whole thing now.<br><br>
Flip - you've done this before. What were the costs like for your race in Switzerland?<br><br>
Anyone else have any similar experiences?<br><br>
I know that I've said this before, but these entry-fees are doing their best to kill the lower AGs, and limit the field to those who can afford it, rather than those who are fast enough. By giving in and paying, I'm afraid that I'll be condoning that kind of behaviour! For a World Championship race (at the Sprint distance), I would have paid around $100. Somehow, the backpack and T-shirt just don't seem worth all that much.<br><br>
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Never done it before, but as I understand, yes, they are ALL very, very, very expensive. If it were me, I'd do it, but mainly because the money required is small enough compared to the sense of pride and ultimate accomplishment and recognition of wearing my country's colors. It would be a dream come true.<br><br>
But there is a point where the money clouds the dream. Maybe it has reached that point or close for you. Again, if it were me, I'd pony up the money. Just to do it. Especially after my experience at the Ironman 70.3 World Championship. That was simply amazing to race among some of the world's greatest. Just being a part of the event was special and something I will never, ever second guess. It is a treat, and special, and in my book worth the money for the pride you will carry, the memories that will last, and the intense sense of being a part of something special.<br><br>
Everything in today's world has a price on it. Just gotta figure out if it's worth it to you. Dig deep. Think about what this really means to you. I'm a big believer in taking opportunities when they are in front of you rather than waiting or postponing for better times.
 

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It seems like anything with a "championship" title is open season for sky high entry fees. Triathlon is a wealthy person's sport and they realize people will pay the high entry fees because many participants don't race very frequently and like the whole "experience"
 

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Yeah, probably they assume that after buying a $5k bike and spending a few hundreds a month in various accessories and upgrades, you'd pay any entry fee.<br>
Just wondering... if you qualified to the worlds, wouldn't you find a few sponsors, to at least cover the entry fee?
 

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I don't know about triathlon, but for duathlon, qualifying for worlds is something a strong local-level athlete could do at the age group level. Any sport where someone like, for example, me, could qualify for the world championship is a little suspect if you think about it. I think there is a stong vested interest in qualifying lots and lots of people for the slots, which is fine. I think it's just a refelction of the way the sport has developed and prospered over the years, there are not many other sports where athletes nowhere near national caliber can compete in a world championship if you think about it.
 

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What story do you want to tell 40-50 years from now... "I qualified, but the fee was too high, so I bagged it." Or "I qualified and had the time of my life." Sure, you can't guarantee you'll have the time of your life, qualifying and racing sounds like a pretty nifty honor to me. Congrats!<br><br>
(And JR, you're definitely world caliber in to us.)
 

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Perhaps, but I only bought a $700 bike, and beat the guy on the $5k bike in the qualifier.<br><br>
As to your second question, there are WAY too many people going to Worlds to make a guy in the 25-29AG worthy of sponsorship. I think that each country can send 30 athletes PER AG/Gender. It's more of a mass-participation thing than a super-elite kind of thing. I qualified in my third multisport race ever. As JR said, it's more of a strong-local athlete getting lucky on the right day kind of thing. I'm sure it would be a neat experience, but it would also become my one race of the year. I'd like to do a bit more than that - not just race once.
 

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This was a big reason I started doing IM tris. Where I live there are not too many opportunities for racing. So that means I need to travel to race. If I am going to travel and incur additional expenses, I am not doing a one hour race. I pay higher entry fees of course, but overall it makes for a bigger event. I think my range would be "drive time = race time"<br><br>
If I ever qualified for a HIM+ for any type of championship, I would go.
 

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That's my thinking. That price would be good for an IM, decent for a HIM, and expensive for an Olympic distance. For a sprint, I just can't justify it. The cost/km is over $10, and the cost/minute is also really high. My mind is almost made up at this point.
 

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I understand totally the problems with high entry fees - The cost of racing in the UK is obscene -<br>
To enter a local sprint race (Non championship- open roads - pool based swim) costs usually about £35 to £40 (So between $70 and $80) an Olympic race in teh UK is upwards of $100 and a 1/2 IM goes up to $180-$200 all for non championship races.<br><br>
Races in France and Belgium are much much less expensive - usually on closed roads and really well organised - The sprints over there are usually only $20-$30 to enter (But I would normally only travel accross for OLympic or above.<br><br>
The European Championships that I took part in last year (Long course - 3Km/80KM/20Km) only cost $80 to enter I did have to pay an extra £10 to the BTF (as I was racing for GB) and I also had to pay for my team kit - but the cost of teh race itself was very reasonable .<br><br>
I think that you have to weigh up the actual monetary cost involved with the pride of representing your country and the actual experience of the championships.<br><br>
I suspect it is a similar dilema that we discuss on a fairly regular basis on the forum regarding Mdot IM and non Mdot IM race s- Mdot will usually be more expensive than non but people (Myself included) are willing to pay more to have that full experience (I am not saying that the non Mdot is any less of an experience - before we gets loads of replies berating my choice - But it is my choice to go down that route<br><br>
Good luck whatever you decide<br><br>
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If I looked at it that way I would probably have to go to Australia to get the travel time to equal my Race time <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br><br>
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That is pretty steep - I guess it doesn't surprise me that it's more expensive for a championship race, but there had better be a killer goody bag to go with that fee <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif"> I dunno, if I actually qualified for something like that, I'd probably still bite the bullet and do it.
 

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Yeah, but he is Canadian, so he can't use this reason. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
Sorry Flip, SS, and others...
 

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The entry fees here are about the same. You can enter a sprint for about $50, but Danskin cost me $80 with the extra processing fee on top of the $75 entry fee. I didn't have to pay the USAT $10 daily fee either since I'm a member. My Oly was $99 plus the processing fee. My HIM was $225 plus a $14 processing fee!! These all have lake swims, not pool swims, but still!<br><br>
Too bad I can't make it over to France. Now that would be an expensive race for me!!<br><br>
I agree that the fees are steep, but you have to compare them to road races in terms of distance. They have to block off the roads for the bike leg, so this involves lots of police to do that. A marathon costs $100 or so, and it's 26.2 miles. Well, the bike leg of an Oly is 25 miles, and it costs roughly the same. You just get to do 2 other sports along with it. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> Factor in the bike racks and park fees and such, and it actually starts to seem like a good deal compared to a marathon. It isn't treated as big of a deal as a marathon, though (most Olys don't give our medals, where marathons do). The issue is most people don't do several marathons a year, but one could easily do several Olys in a year.<br><br>
I do think paying hundreds of dollars for a sprint is ridiculous, especially if you also have to travel to the event. Everyone has a different opinion, though. If you have really worked just for that event, then maybe it is worth it. Not sure what I'd do.
 

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God I hope that's not true.<br><br>
I started road racing after giving up skiing because of the expense of skiing. Road racing (after the racing chair purchase) was fairly cheap. If picked the right races, for $20. you get a race, goddie bag, post race party including adult beverages and and afternoon with your friends. So, road racing was fairly reasonable. (with the exception of the rip off know as the Boston Marathon)<br><br>
I started playing with Tri's because I was getting bored with the race distances. Granted, I've only done one and at $50. was a little surprised with the reg fee, but the additional elements that road racing doesn't have made it reasonable. I think it was my next one (a sprint) was only $55.00.
 

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Out of curiosity, why the call-out for Boston? The cost for Boston this year was $110 (or $160 if you registered after March 1, but the race closed out in Feb this year). Chicago was $110 and New York was $155 plus $11 processing fee. So Boston doesn't seem to be out of line.<br><br>
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One look around at any given triathlon and you'll see that it is painfully true. The pain is because if you're there, you're probably shelling out or have shelled out thousands (note plural) of dollars for gear for all three sports and an assortment of race fees in each of the three sports and in triathlon just to get there.<br><br>
Expensive sport, no doubt.
 
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