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<p>Rise & shine campers. You know we must be off to a late start if I'm batting leadoff...</p>
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<p>Cycling for me today. I'll keep it to about 25-30 miles since I'm in taper mode for next weekend. I could ride past the Pentagon 9/11 memorial site - I did when it first opened and it is a very moving experience - but I think it will be crowded there today, so I'll stick to one of my more conventional routes.</p>
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<p>I go the bike fitting done last night on the same bike I'll be taking out this morning. Ended up with new shoes too. Anyway, what a difference in the before/after. Riding home from the shop I found myself  cruising along at one point at 20 mph and it didn't even feel hard.</p>
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<p>Great weather here today...actually a little on the cool side, probably high 50s/low 60s right now. Out towards the mountains they actually 40s overnight. It's amazing around here, how when September comes along the sauna switch gets turned off.</p>
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Hawk- hope that ride goes well. Sounds like great weather, humidity is still in The 80s here at the time of my runs<br><br><br><br>
well, I was planning on running at the farms, but there wasn't a single parking spot. So I'm gonna head back to the crib to get my 12 in
 

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<p>Good morning.</p>
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<p>Enjoy your ride <strong>Hawk</strong>.</p>
<p>Have a good run <strong>BBS</strong>.</p>
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<p>Yesterday I ran 10 miles with 4 at tempo pace. Pace was a bit slower than last cycle but then again, I feel like I'm just now starting to get things going this cycle, a little later than I wanted but it is what it is. I've got 10 weeks til race day. Still not sure I'll get that sub 3:30 this marathon but will try the best I can. Taking today off, got a little bug or something, so does DH. Rest today and then a long run tomorrow.</p>
 

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<p>Morning...</p>
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<p>Hawk - Did you get a new bike or just get adjustments?</p>
<p>BBS - Have a good run.</p>
<p>Jill - Feel better!</p>
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<p>Will try something this morning.  Not as rested as I'd hoped after a good nights sleep.  Worried about my older dog.  He's had a bum leg/shoulder that's getting worse and he's limping  A LOT!  Going to try to get him some meds (especially pain) and see how he does.  He's a very big boy and it's really getting hard for him to get around.  Man, I can't stand watching these guys get old.  He's such a good boy!</p>
 

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<p><strong>Hawk</strong> -- Have a great ride, amigo.  I love D.C.</p>
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<p><strong>BBS</strong> -- Long run day, eh?  Cut a swath through that humidity.</p>
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<p><strong>Dan</strong> -- Hope it proves a good day to get out for you.  And dogs is good people, no?   Love my pooches.  LOVE them. </p>
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<p><strong>Me</strong> -- Gonna try something new today.  Piftz wants an "all out effort" on a "race" of 8K to 15K.  I've never run a 15K, so I'll give that a whirl.  Should be a good fitness test.</p>
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<p>Thinking this morning about all those so deeply affected.  Where I was (traveling).  The horror of it all.  How far we come -- or haven't -- since.  Wondering where those nine years have gone.  I'm sure we'll all take some moments today to reflect.</p>
 

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<p>Nine miles this morning at 7:00am starting from Candler Park, going through Decatur and back down Ponce de Leon in a somewhat circular fashion to get back to our cars.   Some street running, some sidewalk.  Temps were in the low 70's with humidity around 50%.  Not bad for Atlanta.</p>
 

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<p>Hawk--hope you had an enjoyable little spin.</p>
<p>BBS--have a good one!</p>
<p>Jill--3:30?!  I'd just love to break 4:00 again.</p>
<p>Dan--sorry to hear about the pup.  Sucks watching them get old.  Both of my big dogs are 11yo.</p>
<p>chances--yes, lots of refection here, too.</p>
<p>Ga--sounds like a fun little trot.</p>
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<p>Dropped son1 off at the running store so he could run with the fast guys this morning.  He knocked out about 10.  His only complaint--they ran by a high school.  All those fields (soccer, football, baseball) and no POJs!  Luckily, there was construction so he did find relief.</p>
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<p>Meanwhile, I was off to the gym to do my time in the fishbowl.  2500m of back and forth, back and forth........</p>
 

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<p>4boys - I know you know!  Good job on the back and forth!</p>
<p>GaReb - Nice run.  Where are all those streets?  Atlanta?</p>
<p>Rob - Yeah, 9 years.  What have we learned?  Running? </p>
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<p>30 medium difficult minutes.  Man, I need a spurt to the next plateau.  Feel stuck. </p>
 

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<p>Jill- Whats your current marathon PR?</p>
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<p>Dan- I'm right there with ya on being stuck.</p>
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<p>Chances- nice jiz-ob on the 15K. BTW- that blue field team is over-rated imo- <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif" style="width:16px;height:16px;" title=""></p>
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<p>GaReb- nice goin w/ the 9, I'll take those 50% days anyday</p>
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<p>Mom- glad u got the swim in</p>
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<p>I got my 12... Not a good run though.  I bought a water bottle last weekend, the kind w/ the strap... and today was the first day I've ever used it.  That sucked.  At first I was tempted to gulp most of it down so it wouldn't weigh so much, then later all the sloshing noise was getting on my nerves.  Hopefully I'll get used to it.  Luckily I brought along a GU that I had to take around mile 8.. or I wouldn't have made it past 10.  Thank God for those things.  I was hoping I could get by all my long runs without them so on race day they may have more effect... thats not gonna happen. I prolly could have used 2 today.  I havn't had a good long run since I signed up for that Marathon!  Starting to doubt myself... but its a long time until D-Day, no Use punking out yet.</p>
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<p>Anyways, 12 miles in a pretty slow pace, (8:41)  Now time to watch  lil football!</p>
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<p>Go Big <span style="color:#ffa500;"><strong>ORANGE!</strong></span></p>
 

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<p>Back from the ride. Ended up with 30.95 miles. Go figure. Had some nice speeds at times but as usual those were balanced out by the many times I had to slow waaaay down because the bike trail was so crowded. Hence just a 13.4 mph average.<br><br>
Dan - the bike is one I got from a co-worker. Not new, but new to me. First time I've had a true road bike so I'm still learning how to master it.<br><br>
Chances - lots to think about indeed. I still remember the day - wish I didn't have to. The chaos in Arlington, where I lived. The plume of smoke you could see 5 miles away from the Pentagon...9 years later it's all normal here, then again it's not.<br><br>
Jill - my times have been a little off too. I think it's cyclical though and eventually it comes back. My LR last week was a horror but my midweek track workout went great so maybe that means I'm hitting my stride. No doubt you will too.<br><br>
BBS - don't mess with Chances' Broncs. As an alum of St. Joe's I have a soft spot for BSU. Remember the Hawks of 2004? Little school that kicked everyone's butt in basketball? BSU is the new SJU. :)<br><br>
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<p>Arggh, my post disappeared on me...   well, I got my 16 in with just a little rain towards the end.    The numbers weren't that bad, 8:22 overall pace with 2nd half just 41 seconds slower than the first, but the last 7 miles were a struggle.   Just did not feel good, with a pit in my stomach and any inclines causing slight nausea.   I think it was a combination of the remnants of my cold, dehydration after stupidly not drinking enough last night after yoga, and the shorter than usual rest from the last long run.   Just laid on the ground for a while afterwards, but got some post-run nutrition in and am feeling much better now.</p>
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<p>Chances - Awesome job on the 15k!   Sub-60 is very cool.</p>
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<p>No time for comments on everyone but nice runs, rides and swims and enjoy the rest of the weekend!</p>
 

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<p>Hi, yes all those streets are in Atlanta.  Looking at my group's schedule through February the vast majority of  my group runs will to be in the city.  I'll eventually have a one or two in Sandy Springs and one along the Silver Comet Trail in Smyrna.   Other than that, Buckhead and Midtown Atlanta are pretty much the home running courts.</p>
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<p>The only race I have scheduled outside the city is in October in Athens, GA for a 1/2 marathon.  Not doing a lot of travelling this year.<br><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>vashondan</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/70066/saturday-september-11#post_1944325"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>4boys - I know you know!  Good job on the back and forth!</p>
<p>GaReb - Nice run.  Where are all those streets?  Atlanta?</p>
<p>Rob - Yeah, 9 years.  What have we learned?  Running? </p>
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<p>30 medium difficult minutes.  Man, I need a spurt to the next plateau.  Feel stuck. </p>
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<p>DW delayed her long run due to heavy rain. May get out for some miles with DD in the BOB at the same time.  Depends.  II'll be doing 18 tomorrow then we are driving to Madison to support DW's BIL in the Wisconsin Ironman.</p>
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<p>Nice running and riding all.  Nice 15k Chances - great to get under the hour mark.  My PR is 57:35 from 2008 but we think the course was a bit short so would be more like 59mins.  That was the week after I ran a 37:58 10k and the week before the OBX marathon (3:11) with Hawk.  Good times.</p>
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<p>9 years is a lifetime ago.  Have we learnt anything?  Probably nothing constructive.</p>
 

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<p><strong>BBS</strong> - my current PR is 3:32:35 from this past May.</p>
<p>If you keep at it with the handheld water bottle you'll get use to it. It does feel heavy when it's full but I try to think of the positive - it's good for my arms.</p>
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<p>Good question, <strong>RA</strong>.</p>
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<p>Nice going <strong>zrun</strong>! Watch out Chicago.</p>
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<p><strong>Hawk</strong>, you're probably right. It'll come back, I know that, just not sure at what level yet. You never know though, I might just be totally "on" come race day. I'll know better in October.</p>
 

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<p>Well, 4.3 miles with ToddlerAsics in the BOB.  66F, humid and windy. </p>
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<p>FWIW: if I carry water, it's always in a hand held.  I hate fuel belts - too much bouncing around etc.  I've carried a water bottle in marathons without issue.  Actually I prefer it as I can get my hydration early without having to worry about crowded aid stations.  However, I'm now pretty good at drinking water from a cup without slowing down or choking.  That took a lot practice in many races.</p>
 

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<p>Great runs folks!</p>
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<p>Workout did not go very well for me. Kenyan run today for me, but I had to do it all alone and in blustery winds. I never seem to do well in workouts on my own, but I'm glad I toughed my way through it. Supposed to be 6:15, 6:00, 5:45, 5:35. Not even close...6:16 (started out too fast and tried to settle in), 6:13 (too relaxed), 5:56 (pushing it but kinda lost focus on a long straightaway, 6:08 (hurting and frustrated that things were going badly, but I am just glad I didn't stop at 3). Not really the progressive paces I was hoping for, but at least I got a solid 4 miles in. 67mins total.</p>
 

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<p>Chances- nice jiz-ob on the 15K. BTW- that blue field team is over-rated imo- <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif" style="width:16px;height:16px;" title=""></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;">BBS -- How <em><strong>dare</strong></em> you suggest Boise State is not the top college football team in the nation.  I dare you to name <em style="font-style:italic;font-weight:normal;"><strong style="font-style:italic;font-weight:bold;">one</strong></em> better.  </p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;">Okay, if pressed I can concede <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;">Alabama, Oh. State, Texas, Nebraska, Iowa, Oregon, Oklahoma</strong> and <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;">Wisconsin</strong>.  Also a couple other Big 12 teams.  And the top 3/4 of the SEC.  <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;">TCU</strong> on an average day, too.  <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;">Utah</strong> probably.  But that's it. </p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;">And, at least we beat perennial ACC powerhouse <strong>Va. Tech</strong>, who I'm sure is going to win out the rest of its games.  (Adopts smug countenance).  Hmm?  Sorry?  What did you say?  <em style="font-style:italic;font-weight:normal;"><strong style="font-style:italic;font-weight:bold;">James Madison?  </strong></em></p>
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<p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;">BBS -- How <em><strong>dare</strong></em> you suggest Boise State is not the top college football team in the nation.  I dare you to name <em style="font-style:italic;font-weight:normal;"><strong style="font-style:italic;font-weight:bold;">one</strong></em> better.  </p>
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<p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;">Okay, if pressed I can concede <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;">Alabama, Oh. State, Texas, Nebraska, Iowa, Oregon, Oklahoma</strong> and <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;">Wisconsin</strong>.  Also a couple other Big 12 teams.  And the top 3/4 of the SEC.  <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;">TCU</strong> on an average day, too.  <strong style="font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;">Utah</strong> probably.  But that's it. </p>
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<p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;">And, at least we beat perennial ACC powerhouse <strong>Va. Tech</strong>, who I'm sure is going to win out the rest of its games.  (Adopts smug countenance).  Hmm?  Sorry?  What did you say?  <em style="font-style:italic;font-weight:normal;"><strong style="font-style:italic;font-weight:bold;">James Madison?  </strong></em></p>
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<p>Ah, let the games begin!  I kind of expected that you'd leave SC off any list but I'm not going to let the loss of a great coach, a slew of major sanctions and a novice team get in the way of me rooting for them.  After all, they need all the support they can get. <br>
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