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<h4 class="lastupdated clearfix"><em>Last Updated: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 | 5:07 PM ET</em> <span class="d-inline" id="user_socialhead"><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/story/2010/09/14/sp-bush-heisman.html#socialcomments" target="_blank">Comments<em class="cmt">28</em></a><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/story/2010/09/14/sp-bush-heisman.html#" target="_blank" title="Recommend this story">Recommend<em class="rec">39</em></a></span></h4>
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<div id="user_storybody"><span class="photo left" style="width:308px;"><img alt="Reggie Bush, seen in late August, was deemed ineligible for the period in which he won the Heisman by the NCAA." src="http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/sports/photos/2010/09/14/bush-reggie-ap-100831.jpg" style=""><em>Reggie Bush, seen in late August, was deemed ineligible for the period in which he won the Heisman by the NCAA.</em> <em class="credit">(David Martin/Associated Press)</em></span>
<p>Reggie Bush is giving back his Heisman Trophy in the scandal over cash and gifts he received while he was a college football player.</p>
<p>The New Orleans Saints' running back released a statement Tuesday saying he will return the award he won in 2005 while he was at the University of Southern California.</p>
<p>It will be the first time U.S. college football's top award has been returned by a recipient.</p>
<p>"While this decision is heart-breaking, I find solace in knowing that the award was made possible by the support and love of so many," Bush said. "Those are gifts that can never be taken away."</p>
<p>USC was hit with heavy sanctions by the NCAA this summer after it determined Bush had received improper benefits. The NCAA ruled that Bush was ineligible for the 2005 season, which opened the possibility that the Heisman Trophy Trust would take back the award.</p>
<p>One of the few guidelines given to Heisman Trophy voters is that a player must be in compliance with NCAA rules to be eligible for the trophy.</p>
<p>The eight-member Heisman Trophy Trust, based in New York, had said it would have to consider what to do about Bush, who had won the award in a landslide vote over Texas quarterback Vince Young.</p>
<p>There was no immediate word from the Heisman Trust if the award would be vacated or given to Young.</p>
<p>"My opinion would be, I would love for the Heisman Trust to look at a re-vote or give it to the second guy, which therefore would be Vince," Texas coach Mack Brown said.</p>
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<p>Allegations that Bush and his family had received hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts from two California-based marketing agents were first reported by Yahoo Sports in September 2006, months after Bush had been drafted No. 2 overall by the New Orleans Saints.</p>
<p>The NCAA and Pac-10 began investigating Bush and the USC football program soon after, and the running back immediately denied any wrongdoing.</p>
<p>But Bush never met with investigators.</p>
<p>One of the marketing agents, Lloyd Lake, sued Bush in an effort to recoup nearly $300,000 US in cash and gifts. Bush was supposed to give a deposition in the case but never did and, eventually, the case was settled with Bush never having given his side of the story publicly.</p>
<p>It took four years for the NCAA to complete its investigation.</p>
<p>When it finally handed down its punishment in June, it was severe.</p>
<p>The NCAA cited USC for a lack of institutional control. Its report cited numerous improper benefits for Bush and former basketball player O.J. Mayo, who spent just one year with the Trojans.</p>
<p>The penalties included the loss of 30 football scholarships over three years and vacating 14 victories in which Bush played from December 2004 through the 2005 season. USC beat Oklahoma in the BCS title game on Jan. 4, 2005, and won 12 games during Bush's Heisman-winning 2005 season, which ended with a loss to Texas in the 2006 BCS title game.</p>
<p>After the 2009 season, coach Pete Carroll left to take over the Seattle Seahawks.</p>
<p>In July, USC replaced athletic director Mike Garrett with Pat Haden, and one of the first moves Haden made was returning USC's copy of Bush's Heisman Trophy.</p>
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<p>It's the right move on his part.</p>
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<p>Thoughts on whether the runner up, Vince Young, should win the award?</p>
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<p>I think they should leave it empty.  Reggie earned it on the playing field, and although he was involved in some shady activities and getting illegal benefits he wasn't taking PED's or anything.  What he did on the field, he did on his own effort.</p>
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<p>I think I'd leave it vacated.</p>
 

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<p>I would leave it vacated too.  Partly because of the reasons you gave, but also to help impress upon student-athletes the importance of following the rules.  Had this happened within a year of the award being given, I think I would be more supportive of giving it to Vince Young, but 5 years down the line?  When both have successful NFL careers with or without the award?  Leaving the hole in the list would have more impact down the line than replacing Bush with Vince Young at this point, IMO.</p>
 

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<p>I had been weighing both sides (leaving it vacated vs. awarding it to second place) and probably leaving it vacated makes the most impact at this point.</p>
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<p>But while Bush may have won it on the field, the fact that he got so many "benefits" to attend USC leaves open the possibility that he wouldn't have won the trophy in the first place on the field if due to finances (or bling opportunties - your call) to go to another university which may not have been so highly stacked as USC was back then.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure if Vince Young wants the Heisman now or not, but its not like other awards/medals have been awarded after the fact (for example, the 2000 US Women Gymnastics squad when China was found to have used an underage gymnast.)  Of course, the problem with after-the-fact awardings such as that is that any of that spontaneous glory and sense of accomplishment that individual is forever gone.</p>
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<p>I don't know.  Take the case of Becky Scott a Canadian cross-country skier who finished third at Salt Lake but was eventually awarded the Gold based on the fact that the two finishers ahead of her had taken Darbepoetin.  She was deprived of that podium ceremony at the games but was given one a year or so later.  It didn't mean the same, but it was recognition that she had earned the Gold.  I think overall she'd say that she'd take the Gold late rather than never.</p>
 

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blood doping =/= taking gifts IMO.<br>
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<p>Did taking gifts help his performance on the field?  Did it free him up in some way to train harder?  Get more rest?  Enjoy better nutrition?  Maybe.  But I guess we'll never know.</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Grizzly</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/70134/reggie-bush-forfeits-heisman-trophy#post_1945467"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I don't know.  Take the case of Becky Scott a Canadian cross-country skier who finished third at Salt Lake but was eventually awarded the Gold based on the fact that the two finishers ahead of her had taken Darbepoetin.  She was deprived of that podium ceremony at the games but was given one a year or so later.  It didn't mean the same, but it was recognition that she had earned the Gold.  I think overall she'd say that she'd take the Gold late rather than never.</p>
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<p>It's sort of weird how that all works out.  It's now pretty much acknowledged that dominant East German swim team of the 1970s was force fed all these illegal substances, but the ICO pretty much has said that those medals (especially the 1976 games) will stand.</p>
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<p>I actually badly for both sides on that one - best I can tell, the East German swimmers just did as they were told and now some are going through some horrible side-effects due to the effects of those PEDs.  Of course, a lot of non East German swimmers (US, Dutch, Canadian etc.) are denied their share Olympic glory<br><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Grizzly</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/70134/reggie-bush-forfeits-heisman-trophy#post_1945467"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I don't know.  Take the case of Becky Scott a Canadian cross-country skier who finished third at Salt Lake but was eventually awarded the Gold based on the fact that the two finishers ahead of her had taken Darbepoetin.  She was deprived of that podium ceremony at the games but was given one a year or so later.  It didn't mean the same, but it was recognition that she had earned the Gold.  I think overall she'd say that she'd take the Gold late rather than never.</p>
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<p>The funny thing is the whole thing about the Heisman going to the best college player, not necessarily to who might be the best pro player.</p>
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<p>When all is said and done, Bush may end up only being the third best back from that draft class (behind Maurice Jones-Drew and possibly Deangelo Williams)<br>
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blood doping =/= taking gifts IMO.<br>
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<p>Did taking gifts help his performance on the field?  Did it free him up in some way to train harder?  Get more rest?  Enjoy better nutrition?  Maybe.  But I guess we'll never know. </p>
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<p>I'm with Scoobs on gifts and performance enhancing substances being vastly different. </p>
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<p>You could argue that Reggie wouldn't have won it if he played for Washington State because he wouldn't have a big line to run behind and then you could carry it on to something totally ridiculous.</p>
 

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<p>  I thought Bush was the best player in college that year. Now that he has to give the Heisman back I 've changed my mind. Yeah right<img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/roll_eyes.gif" style="width:15px;height:15px;" title=""></p>
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<p>    It's simply too late. Let it go.</p>
 

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<p>No, but the rules say that you had to be eligible and he wasn't.  I think Vince should get it after the fact.  He was the best eligible player that year and even though its 5 years later and he was "outperformed on the field" I still think he deserves it. <br><br>
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blood doping =/= taking gifts IMO.<br>
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<p>Did taking gifts help his performance on the field?  Did it free him up in some way to train harder?  Get more rest?  Enjoy better nutrition?  Maybe.  But I guess we'll never know.</p>
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