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<p>It's hasn't been more than 36 hours since the embarrassment of the riot in Vancouver after the Stanley Cup final, but it seems that the real Vancouverites are showing their true colors. I hope this stuff gets as much global news coverage as the bullshit that went off on Wednesday night....it may not as shocking or dramatic, but in my opinion, but it is far more newsworthy & shows what the citizens of Vancouver are really like.</p>
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<p>It seems that social media is taking a large part in bringing citizens to action. As I drove along Georgia Street on my way to work yesterday morning (barely 8 hours after the riot), I went past the corners of Seymour, Granville...past the Hudsons Bay Co storefront & it's boarded up windows, past the London Drugs, past the Canada Post office & the scene of the first burning vehicle.</p>
<p>What I noticed was how clean the place was & how earily peaceful. people...civilians in office clothes were walking Georgia Street with garbage bags & picking up wrappers, & garbage. It was only when I got to the office that someone informed me of a Facebook movement to help clean-up the mess & reclaim our city (they even re-designed the classic Canucks logo where the hockey stick is replaced with a broom) .</p>
<p>The only vehicles that were parked in the vicinity (this is before 8:00am) were media vehicles.</p>
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<p>As I drove home later that day, I passed the same scene. A fortuitous red light at the corner of Georgia & Granville allowed me to look over at the boarded displays of the Hudson Bay Co....they were covered with notes & messages. I had time to read a few of the larger printed messages...."We {heart} the VPD (Vancouver Police Department)"...."Thank you paramedics, police, & leanup crews"..."Hooligans are shame"....etc....This morning, there is no more room to write...but someone painted a message on the hoarding in letters that span the city block "Vandals, we will get you!"</p>
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<p>To say that many Vancouverites were ashamed & frustrated by the ridiculous & shallow acts of a few, is a huge understatement. What brings some comfort is knowing that in this day & age of media....where cameras & videos are literally everywhere...that the guilty cannot hide for long. Many have been found & many have already been shamed into turning themselves in as the media outlets contniue to post their images. To add another layer to the ability of social media & immediate communication, a certain fellow or gal (or group of people) who is going by the name of Captain Canuck, has taken the superhero moniker to the web & put digital sleuthing to justice in the social media age. He (an assumption on the gender) has managed to get personal information based on photos of some of the rioters. Not only has he post their pictures, but he also put out their names, addresses, schools, places of employment, etc... Basically a public shaming in the most contemporary of ways. Right or wrong, it does add a sense of justice for those who have no faith that the legal system will truly repair the damage to our city's reputation....but a global public shaming is certainly not something that was predicted. I wonder how this will impact the future of Facebook & Twitter?</p>
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<p>Today, there is a sense that everyone is pulling together. Although our shine has been tarnished, our pride in our city is pulling us out of the embarassing shadow & with this, we have learned that we love & appreciate our city that much more.</p>
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<p>Real Vancouverites....thank you for caring.</p>
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<p>Glenn</p>
 

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<p>Glenn,</p>
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<p>This had nothing to do with hockey, I think most of US know that.  The folks arrested all had priors or were "known to police".  This was just opportunistic hooliganism. </p>
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<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the media just plays clips & drama without follow-up. In fact, one of the U.S.outlets even said "What do you expect?....it's Hockey."</p>
<p>Oh well. Compared to other riots, it was actually minor.</p>
<p>People will still come to our wonderful city & see it for what it is & will probably realize the truth of it all.</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mudrunner</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/74263/real-vancouver#post_2003809"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br><p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the media just plays clips & drama without follow-up. In fact, one of the U.S.outlets even said "What do you expect?....it's Hockey."</p>
<p>Oh well. Compared to other riots, it was actually minor.</p>
<p>People will still come to our wonderful city & see it for what it is & will probably realize the truth of it all.</p>
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That's not totally accurate. I read on CNN today that the police attributed this to the "anarchists", and had plenty of pictures of the boarded up shops and stores complaining about the violence. The entire story was totally on the side of "the good guys", and had quotes from residents lamenting how a few bad apples ruined everything. I think that Vancouver was painted in a pretty good light.<br><br>
That's internet news, of course. I have no idea what is on TV, since I rarely watch broadcast news anymore. Mostly because it's shit.<br><br>
You have to watch until the end of this video though, to see the good<br><br>
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/06/17/pkg.vancouver.riot.cleanup.cbc?iref=allsearch" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/06/17/pkg.vancouver.riot.cleanup.cbc?iref=allsearch</a><br><br>
However, to your point, I never underestimate news organizations on how low they can go...
 

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<p>That's a CBC piece, they're the ones who broke the story about the anarchists...</p>
 

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<p>I was almost teary watching the news tonight, with the story of the police care with all the "thank you" post it notes on it.  Amazing sight.  I know that there were aspects that the police could have done better but I don't think too many people, would have changed places with them that night.</p>
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<p>I probably would have cried if the Hudson's Bay had been destroyed.  Canadian icon, Vancouver icon.  Having spent a lot of my 20's in that area of town, it was very difficult to watch landmarks be destroyed live on TV.</p>
 

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<p><a href="http://autos.sympatico.ca/auto-news/9078/vancouver-plasters-cop-car-with-thank-you-notes" target="_blank">http://autos.sympatico.ca/auto-news/9078/vancouver-plasters-cop-car-with-thank-you-notes</a></p>
 

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<p>It wasn't all Anarchists.  They hide their faces.  Those bozos weren't hiding, they were just taking advantage of a moment.  I highly doubt they even realized that there are hours and hours of live footage of them.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>willrun4chocolate</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/74263/real-vancouver#post_2003838"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br><p>It wasn't all Anarchists.  They hide their faces.  Those bozos weren't hiding, they were just taking advantage of a moment.  I highly doubt they even realized that there are hours and hours of live footage of them.</p>
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There is a mob mentality and it is real. Normal people get caught up in stuff. It's well documented. And it's a shame.<br><br>
I don't think any <b>reasonably intelligent</b> people will blame Vancouver or their residents for this. Just because some ******* from wherever sees it on TV and says, "gee, look at those stupid idiots from Vancouver" doesn't mean a thing. Do you really value their opinion anyway?<br><br>
Having said that, I have a real problem with "news" on TV these days. I can't watch it anymore. I think the last time I watched TV news was when Obama was elected, and that was only every 1/2 hour or so just to keep track.<br><br>
I like being able to read what I want to read, when I want to read it. National news is bad, but LOCAL news is the worst. I don't want "the local angle" on every little thing. I don't want to see stories on the latest trends in Viagra. I don't want to see "the local connection" on some national story. They always turn out to be stupid and worthless. I can't stand the teasers.<br><br>
Local news these days, and to some extent, National news, is only a very small step above The National Inquirer and the Weekly World News. Super Market checkout line fodder.<br>
 

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<p>To say it had nothing to do with hockey fans and all to do with "anarchists" is simplifying the events.</p>
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<p>Certainly there were people coming to cause rioting regardless of who won the game. However, an awful lot of dumbass young, mostly male, Canuck fans, fueled by Molson Canajun, didn't take a lot of coaxing to get involved. And once it started the mob mentality took hold fast.</p>
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<p>I know it's an embarrassment for Vancouver, but I don't think it would be any less likely to happen anywhere else.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure that encouraging that number of people into a small area is something that won't be thought long and hard about before repeating.</p>
 

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<p> At the staff meeting tonight, we were asked for a show of hands as to who wanted to go work Riderville at Grey Cup this year.  Many hands went up (mine the fastest I am sure), then some smart-alec said, but guys it's in Vancouver, what if the West loses, and my hand started to go down slowly, but in reality, I would go if my name is pulled out of the hat.  Assuming of course I don't have a full time teaching job at that point.</p>
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<p>I actually think that all the facebook, "identify this moron" pages will make people rethink their actions at future events.</p>
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<p>Well, slight apology from me to the Vancouver BC residents.  Last week I told you my firm was having a seminar in Vancouver during the mayhem.  True statement EXCEPT they were in Vancouver, Washington instead of Vancouver BC.  Who knew there was such a place as Vancouver, Washington?</p>
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<p>They bought me back a souvenir advertising the Vancouver, Washington Inaugural Marathon that was held June 19.  I thought that was pretty neat.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>GaReb770</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/74263/real-vancouver#post_2004228"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>Well, slight apology from me to the Vancouver BC residents.  Last week I told you my firm was having a seminar in Vancouver during the mayhem.  True statement EXCEPT they were in Vancouver, Washington instead of Vancouver BC.  Who knew there was such a place as Vancouver, Washington?</p>
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<p>They bought me back a souvenir advertising the Vancouver, Washington Inaugural Marathon that was held June 19.  I thought that was pretty neat.</p>
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They had cool t-shirts last year when lots of people were heading to the other Vancouver for the Olympics:</p>
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<p>Vancouver...not BC</p>
<p>Washington....not DC</p>
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