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<p>A while back, when LeBron James left the Cavs to sign with the Heat, a lot was made about how tortured the fans in Cleveland are.  Ever since then, I wondered what cities really are the most tortured when it comes to the big 4 sports.  (NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL).  For a long time, I was thinking about actually checking out all the stats to see what the last champion was in each city, and how many "seasons" it has been since that champion.  Well, I finally took the time to compile that list, and I ranked them in order of how long it's been since each city's last champion.  Since the NBA season is the most recent one to end, the city with the winner of the last NBA Championship (Los Angeles) has gone 0 seasons since their last championship, by my criteria.  The NHL championship was the most recent one before that, and the NFL before that, etc. </p>
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<p>For each team that a city has, each team counts in the season total.  For example, since San Antonio has only one pro team, it has only been 3 seasons since their last championship 3 years ago.  On the other hand, New York City has the reigning champion in baseball, but has gone 5 seasons since then because they have two football teams, two hockey teams, and one basketball that didn't win since then. </p>
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<p>I think I included every city that currently has a team in one of the big 4 sports.  I tried to account for years that cities were without clubs in various sports (i.e. when Cleveland or Houston was without a football team), and for teams that are no longer in certain cities (i.e. the Clippers, who were in both Buffalo and San Diego).  I won't gaurantee that this data is 100% accurate, but I think I'm pretty close.  Did I forget any cities? </p>
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<p>So is Cleveland the most tortured?  At least they have won something, even if it was a long time ago.  Buffalo and San Diego have never won anything. </p>
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<p>What does all this mean?  Well, nothing, I guess.  I probably just wasted a lot of time coming up with this chart.  But since I did it, I figured I'd post it and share it with anyone who might be interested.  Comments? </p>
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<table border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" style="width:200px;"><tbody><tr><td>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:469px;" width="469"><colgroup><col><col><col><col></colgroup><tbody><tr><td style="height:20px;width:123px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">City</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Current # teams</span></span></td>
<td style="width:135px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Last champion</span></span></td>
<td style="width:104px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Seasons since</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Los Angeles</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">6</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2010 Lakers</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">0</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Chicago </span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">5</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2010 Blackhawks</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">New Orleans</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2009 Saints</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Pittsburgh</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2009 Penguins</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">San Antonio </span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2007 Spurs</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Raleigh/Durham</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2006 Hurricanes</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">New York</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">7</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2009 Yankees</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">5</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Philadelphia</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2008 Phillies</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">7</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Indianapolis</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2006 Colts</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">7</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Boston</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2008 Celtics</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">8</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Detroit</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2008 Red Wings</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">9</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">St Louis</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2006 Cardinals</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">11</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Miami </span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2006 Heat</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">12</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Green Bay</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1996 Packers</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">13</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">New Jersey</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2003 Devils</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">14</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Tampa </span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2004 Lightning</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">17</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Baltimore</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2000 Ravens</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">18</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Edmonton</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1990 Oilers</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">19</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Calgary</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1989 Flames</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">20</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Montreal </span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1993 Canadiens</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">27</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">San Francisco</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1994 49ers</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">29</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Portland</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1977 Trailblazers</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">33</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Phoenix</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2001 Diamondbacks</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">34</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Denver</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2001 Avalanche</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">36</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Cincinnati</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1990 Reds</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">38</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Houston </span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1995 Rockets</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">39</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Dallas</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1999 Stars</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">43</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Toronto</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1993 Blue Jays</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">46</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Kansas City</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1985 Royals</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">49</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Oakland</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1989 As</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">55</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Atlanta</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1994 Braves</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">56</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Washington DC</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1991 Redskins</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">60</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Minneapolis</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1991 Twins</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">64</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Milwaukee</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1971 Bucks</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">77</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Seattle</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1979 Supersonics</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">90</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Cleveland</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1964 Browns</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">127</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"> </td>
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</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Oklahoma City</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Memphis</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">10</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Columbus</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">10</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Jacksonville</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">15</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">San Jose</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">19</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Orlando</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">22</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Nashville</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">26</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Charlotte</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">35</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Vancouver</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">46</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">San Diego</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">86</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Buffalo </span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">88</span></span></td>
</tr></tbody></table></td>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>coachie</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/70010/pro-sports-championship-drought-by-city#post_1943695"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>Well, as a chargers fan... the Chargers did win the AFL Championship one year.  And several MLS titles back in the day, but I guess that doesn't count.</p>
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I debated whether to include the AFL.  But I just stuck with the NFL.  I didn't consider MLS since, (a) it's not considered one of the "big four" in U.S. sports, and (b) I don't know diddly about it.  I'm not saying that my methods were perfect, but it's best I could do...</p>
 

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<p>Just for fun, here's an update after the Giants' World Series win...</p>
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<table border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" style="float:left;width:500px;"><tbody><tr><td>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:520px;" width="519"><colgroup><col><col><col><col></colgroup><tbody><tr><td style="height:50px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">City</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Current # teams</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Last champion</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Seasons since</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">San Francisco</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2010 Giants</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">0</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">New Orleans</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2009 Saints</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">L.A./Anaheim</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">6</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2010 Lakers</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Chicago </span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">5</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2010 Blackhawks</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">San Antonio </span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2007 Spurs</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Pittsburgh</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2009 Penguins</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Raleigh/Durham</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2006 Hurricanes</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">New York</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">7</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2009 Yankees</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">7</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Indianapolis</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2006 Colts</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">7</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Philadelphia</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2008 Phillies</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">8</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Boston</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2008 Celtics</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">9</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Detroit</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2008 Red Wings</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">10</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">St Louis</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2006 Cardinals</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">12</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Miami </span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2006 Heat</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">13</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Green Bay</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1996 Packers</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">13</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">New Jersey</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2003 Devils</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">14</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Tampa </span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2004 Lightning</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">18</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Baltimore</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2000 Ravens</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">19</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Edmonton</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1990 Oilers</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">19</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Calgary</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1989 Flames</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">20</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Montreal </span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1993 Canadiens</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">27</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Portland</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1977 Trailblazers</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">33</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Phoenix</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2001 Diamondbacks</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">35</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Denver</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2001 Avalanche</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">37</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Cincinnati</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1990 Reds</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">39</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Houston </span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1995 Rockets</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">40</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Dallas</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1999 Stars</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">44</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Toronto</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1993 Blue Jays</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">47</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Kansas City</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1985 Royals</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">50</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Oakland</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1989 As</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">56</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Atlanta</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1994 Braves</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">57</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Washington DC</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1991 Redskins</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">61</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Minneapolis</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">4</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1991 Twins</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">65</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Milwaukee</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1971 Bucks</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">78</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Seattle</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1979 Supersonics</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">91</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Cleveland</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">3</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1964 Browns</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">128</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;width:164px;"> </td>
<td style="width:69px;"> </td>
<td style="width:179px;"> </td>
<td style="width:108px;"> </td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:20px;width:164px;"> </td>
<td style="width:69px;"> </td>
<td style="width:179px;"> </td>
<td style="width:108px;"> </td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Oklahoma City</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Memphis</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">10</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Columbus</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">10</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Jacksonville</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">15</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">San Jose</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">19</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Orlando</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">22</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Nashville</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">26</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Charlotte</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">35</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">Vancouver</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">1</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">46</span></span></td>
</tr><tr><td style="height:25px;width:164px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">San Diego</span></span></td>
<td style="width:69px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">2</span></span></td>
<td style="width:179px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">None</span></span></td>
<td style="width:108px;"><span style="font-size:large;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">87</span></span></td>
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<p>I think if you callrd the Jets and Giants "New York" then you should probably have included the Devils in the mix.</p>
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<p>Also, I think just years without the multiplier would should be the factor since cities celebrate even if a casual celebrant didn't know the Giants from the 49ers.</p>
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<p>And maybe you should have an extra "penalty pain clause" for those teams who lost their last champion like Supersonics and Browns....although Browns is a little confusing.</p>
 

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<p>I considered the Jets and Giants to be New York because they are the <em><strong>New York</strong></em> Jets and <strong><em>New York</em></strong> Giants.  On the other hand, the basketball and hockey teams are the <strong><em>New Jersey</em></strong> Devils and <strong><em>New Jersey</em></strong> Nets.  Besides, NYC already has a basketball team and two hockey teams, but no football teams.  So I think the football teams belong to NYC, but the other teams do not. </p>
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<p>When the Nets move the Brooklyn, it'll be the same as if they were moving to Florida or California or Hawaii. </p>
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<p>The reason I included "the multiplier" is becuase it's very easy to figure out which cities have gone the longest just in terms of total years.  Like, we all know that Cleveland doesn't have any championships at all since 1964.  I started this thread to compare "seasons", not "years"...</p>
 

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<p>Then I think you should include Buffalo, New York in that mix too. They have to be as close as the New York Islanders are.</p>
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<p>Then again Buffalo is really just a suburb of Toronto so you could put those two together to make it really horrendous...and remember the Clippers were in Buffalo as the Braves before they moved to Milwaukee...or was it Atlanta? <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies//biggrin.gif"></p>
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<p>I'm just havin' fun with this Gator.</p>
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<p>Keep the stats coming. I love this stuff.</p>
 

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<p>Heh.  I think Buffalo is far enough away to be its own entity.  <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies//biggrin.gif">  And yes, I did include the Clippers' time in Buffalo.  The Clippers were also in San Diego for a time.  That franchised is so cursed that not only are they themselves probably the worst professional franchise that ever existed, but they have forever jinxed the cities that they left... </p>
 

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<p>And don't forget the Calgary Flames were originally the Atlanta Flames.</p>
 

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<p>Don't forget about Sacramento, who is currently 25 years without a championship (with the Sacramento Kings of the NBA)</p>
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<p>Unless (how's this for obscure trivia) you count the Sacramento Surge, who won the WLAF championship (aka NFL Europe) in 1992</p>
 

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<p>How about incorporating the CFL into those stats seeing as you've included the Canadian cities that host the NHL.</p>
 

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<p><strong>Moon</strong>, you're right, I forgot Sacramento!  I knew I'd forget some city...</p>
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<p>As for the Flames, Atlanta has won a championship (Braves 1995) long after the Flames left there, so their time there doesn't count for anything.  My tallies for each city include things like the Clippers time in Buffalo and San Diego, the Nationals time in Montreal, the years that Cleveland and Houston were without NFL teams, etc.</p>
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<p>I didn't include the CFL because (a) it's not considered one of the USA's "big four", and (b) because I don't know diddly about it.  This is just my chart on the "big four".  If someone wants to amend it to include the CFL or MLS or the United States Tiddly Winks Federation, be my guest... </p>
 

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Yabut...the CFL is composed of up and coming NFL'ers.  <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies//biggrin.gif"></p>
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<p>BTW...nice job on the chart.<br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>GatorBob</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/70010/pro-sports-championship-drought-by-city#post_1959363"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p><strong>Moon</strong>, you're right, I forgot Sacramento!  I knew I'd forget some city...</p>
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<p>As for the Flames, Atlanta has won a championship (Braves 1995) long after the Flames left there, so their time there doesn't count for anything.  My tallies for each city include things like the Clippers time in Buffalo and San Diego, the Nationals time in Montreal, the years that Cleveland and Houston were without NFL teams, etc.</p>
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<p>I didn't include the CFL because (a) it's not considered one of the USA's "big four", and (b) because I don't know diddly about it.  This is just my chart on the "big four".  If someone wants to amend it to include the CFL or MLS or the United States Tiddly Winks Federation, be my guest... </p>
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Yabut...the CFL is composed of up and coming NFL'ers.  <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies//biggrin.gif" style="width:1px;height:1px;"></p>
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Isn't Jeff Garcia playing there now?  What would he be?  A down and going?  <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies//biggrin.gif"><br>
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<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Isn't Jeff Garcia playing there now?  What would he be?  A down and going?  <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies//biggrin.gif" style="width:1px;height:1px;"><br>
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<br><br><p> No, he's an athlete that wants a much greater challenge to the game he loves. <img alt="biggrin.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies//biggrin.gif"></p>
 
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