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Obviously - Custom Titles and increased PM will be part of this offering.<br><br>
If we had enough members sign up for the premium service, then I think we could pull all ads - though I'd like to keep the RoadID as it does bring value for our sport.<br><br>
Here's the goal - We need to generate approximately 100 a month to maintain the site - this isn't counting the running log. We owe approx 2500 on the log (we being - "ME" <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> ). Before we can move to the next stage of the runners log - multi-sport options; possible garmin interface and sharing your log - we need to pay some of this down. So, we need to be able to generate about 200 a month in subscriptions. At that, pace, the log would take 2 years to pay down - though we could start the next step once we get the income stream coming in.<br><br>
So.. 200 a month? We have 1200 active members.. @ $2/month, we'll need 100 subscriptions - (8%). @ $4/month - we''l need 50 subscriptions...<br><br>
I was thinking of making a 'template' selection option a part of the premium package - and based on todays responses... THAT may encourage people to subscribe all by itself!! <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif"><img alt="wink.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif"><br><br>
My idea is to set subscriptions @$5 month - if you want to subscribe by the month - but lower the price for 6 month subscriptions and even lower at 1 year subscriptions.<br><br><br>
I'm not sure when Vbulletin 3.7 will be available, but that upgrade will run about $100 - but that will include a users blog. The blog would also be part of the premium package - and I believe there are some other great features (like buddy to buddy chat) that we can offer.<br><br><br>
I'm posting because I'm looking for your input. Let me know what you think.<br><br><br>
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i think the $4 or 5 a month, less for 6 and 12 month subscriptions is fair, though more than what i pay on another site, which i think is $2/month. I do not mind this template, i just do not like the narrowness of the forum posts/threads and the dead space on the left. I would suspect that a lot of people will sign up at first, then the sign ups will peter out. Also, will you allow gift memberships?
 

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Over the next month or so, I'll will post a thread regarding the site and the options. I'd like to give everyone a chance to give their input - ultimately, I know, it's my decision on how to go forward, but I want as many users who would care to contribute their thoughts to do so.<br><br>
I don't like the ads Period. But I equally do not like the 'donation' mentality. So, I want to create a value to the subscriptions.<br><br>
I will always offer a 100% free site to those who want it. If we can get enough subscribers where we can fund the site without ads - then no users will see any ads.<br><br>
In the interim, your own input here is very important to me. I'd like us to discuss as much as we can prior to going to the entire site for their input.<br><br><br>
Thanks<br><br><br><br>
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Rich, personally I would not agonize over what features to offer. What you have in mind already is more than enough. You have created so much value here already! Yes, it is available for free today, and yes, it would be appropriate to offer something extra to subscribers. But I know several people have expressed a willingness to support the site as-is, without the subscription idea being mentioned to them. I've said as much before -- I believe you will find people willing to support the site.<br><br>
Runners spend a lot of money on their habit:<br><br>
Shoes<br>
Clothing<br>
Race entries<br>
Travel<br>
Running club dues<br>
Magazines<br><br>
Considering the value of KR in the typical poster's life , it's a no brainer that it's worth supporting with a few dollars. I don't think I'm being naive. I have see this work on other sites.<br><br>
Okay, I'll stop now.
 

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I am, Rich knows, a supporter here. I would and will gladly subscribe.<br><br>
I am also a realist. The running community here may be wide, but I'm wondering how "deep" it is. Given a choice between a free service and one that charges, I bet most wouldn't pony up. I may be cynical here, but...<br><br>
The good thing is that most don't have to. If we get even 5% of the members, we could have a sustainable source of funding.
 

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There's something about price points. Set them too low and your product is "cheap" and not in a good way. Set them too high and no-one will buy.<br><br>
I guess I'd want to buy a magazine subscription. I get that. I don't get paying $2 a month. Anyway, I like paying for something and being done. I could spend $20 on lunch, once in a while, and think nothing of it. I'm willing to try out a magazine at that price. $30 is a nice dinner, without wine. I don't feel like I need to talk to the wife about either of those. For $50, maybe I do.<br><br>
I want to support the site. I hope I will have an annual option. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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I agree with the idea of offering an annual option. I would rather pay one time and be done with it.<br><br>
I will support the site but $5.00 per month seems a little steep to me.
 

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I think $5/month is a little high.<br><br>
Here is what another site I'm on does for $19.95/year:<br><br>
Custom Avatar 120x120 Profile Picture 250x250 PM Message limit: 500 Image Gallery: - Can Post Pictures on Image Gallery (up to 10MB) - Can send E-Cards - Can Rate Images - Can post comments
 

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it would be $5 a month if they chose to pay by the month.. then the rate would drop for 6 months and also 12 months...<br><br>
Tribob - I'd like to see the site you're referring to.. If you don't mind.<br><br>
I'm not sure on the price yet, so feel free to continue offering insight.. and there's nothing to say that we can't come up with several options....<br><br><br>
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