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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>satfix</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/73242/praise-god-for-the-tea-partiers-and-baptists#post_1992745"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><br><br><br><br><p> </p>
<p>But, you are penalizing them - the graduated tax does penalize them. And even if you don't call it a 'penalty', Liberals 'demean' them with the 'Pay your Fair Share' comment - the rich pay MORE than their fair share! And most understand that in order for the system to work for those who can't (or won't) make it on their own, they have to pay more. It just pisses me off that the comment, "The Rich don't pay their fair share", when in fact, they (most) pay MORE than anyone else and are the primary tax payers though the smallest portion of the wealth in this company.</p>
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<p>And that's bullshit - when you say that without the lower and middle class there would be no 'wealthy class' - the entire 'class' system (as you define it) causes division and 'us verses them' mentality - that does nothing but creates this 'you owe me' mindset. I personally work my ass off and have taken a great many risks as well as sacrificed a lot to get where I am at. I am in no way 'rich' (though, by name - I am.. :0) ), for those who chose to take less of a risk or to not sacrifice to the extent I have (for me, moving every couple of years to get a better paying job and to move up - where others chose to NOT make that same choice and make much less) - I am then made to feel like a 'bad guy' or less than 'fair' when I try to manage my own tax liability?</p>
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<p>I would consider myself 'middle class' but at my point in life, I do ok - I don't live pay check to pay check. If I want something, I can normally buy it - and I've worked hard to reduce my debt load (only a mortgage) and live comfortable within my means. Why should I have to give MORE of it to the government because others chose to not take the risk or do the hard work to get here?<br><br>
I will pay my taxes and will do whatever i can for those in need - just don't tell me or those who make significantly more than I do that they don't pay their fair share. That's my beef with this.</p>
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Rich...you sound like a comfortable slightly "upper middle class"...I don't think we are talking about you...we are generally talking about the upper 1 or 2%...they have so many smart tax lawyers and loopholes that they generally are viewed by the public as getting away with paying less...heck, didn't even Warren Buffett point out something to that affect....</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>satfix</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/73242/praise-god-for-the-tea-partiers-and-baptists#post_1992745"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><br><br><br><br><p> </p>
<p>But, you are penalizing them - the graduated tax does penalize them. And even if you don't call it a 'penalty', Liberals 'demean' them with the 'Pay your Fair Share' comment - the rich pay MORE than their fair share! And most understand that in order for the system to work for those who can't (or won't) make it on their own, they have to pay more. It just pisses me off that the comment, "The Rich don't pay their fair share", when in fact, they (most) pay MORE than anyone else and are the primary tax payers though the smallest portion of the wealth in this company.</p>
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<p>And that's bullshit - when you say that without the lower and middle class there would be no 'wealthy class' - the entire 'class' system (as you define it) causes division and 'us verses them' mentality - that does nothing but creates this 'you owe me' mindset. I personally work my ass off and have taken a great many risks as well as sacrificed a lot to get where I am at. I am in no way 'rich' (though, by name - I am.. :0) ), for those who chose to take less of a risk or to not sacrifice to the extent I have (for me, moving every couple of years to get a better paying job and to move up - where others chose to NOT make that same choice and make much less) - I am then made to feel like a 'bad guy' or less than 'fair' when I try to manage my own tax liability?</p>
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<p>I would consider myself 'middle class' but at my point in life, I do ok - I don't live pay check to pay check. If I want something, I can normally buy it - and I've worked hard to reduce my debt load (only a mortgage) and live comfortable within my means. Why should I have to give MORE of it to the government because others chose to not take the risk or do the hard work to get here?<br><br>
I will pay my taxes and will do whatever i can for those in need - just don't tell me or those who make significantly more than I do that they don't pay their fair share. That's my beef with this.</p>
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Rich...you sound like a comfortable slightly "upper middle class"...I don't think we are talking about you...we are generally talking about the upper 1 or 2%...they have so many smart tax lawyers and loopholes that they generally are viewed by the public as getting away with paying less...heck, didn't even Warren Buffett point out something to that affect....</p>
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