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<p>So, I have a bit of a hangover, all my "goals" are done for this year and I'm trying to think of "what's next." We suddenly have some deadlines on house stuff, so I'm not going to have LOTS of bandwidth for the next few months of Saturdays and Sundays, but I don't want to lose ALL my base. I know I still have some recovery, but I'm curious what you all think I can do to keep some endurance, but the real goal of the next year is to get faster.  I found a Tuesday night Time Trial not far from work that I may attempt a few times to get some base and then next year I will really use it as a guide. </p>
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<p>I'd also like to get some rock climbing in, as I can climb for free at the Y after I re-certify and I'm taking pilates 1 day a week for now.  So, what say you, also what is pushing too hard for recover, mind you, i'm loading a dumpster Saturday and the week after, moving stuff, patching a ceiling, and putting down a floor in the next couple of weeks. </p>
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<p>OH, I'm HOPING to run Boston again this year, so some running races over the winter - longer and shorter - and sticking to sprints and olys next year, bumping up again, to an IM in 2012, I hope. </p>
 

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<p>I'd recommend no structured training for a minimum of a month.  If you want to go out and run or bike or swim, fine, but just go with how you feel and don't have a plan.  Stop when you feel like stopping.  Exercise with the training partners you may have been ignoring for the past few months because you've been IM focused.  I'd skip the Time Trial, you have absolutely no need for that kind of intensity right now.</p>
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<p>You're not going to lose your base.  I took almost two months off last fall and didn't lose my base.  You need to recharge your batteries, it has been a long season.  You probably started your heavy Boston training in January, its August now.  You can't maintain a huge training load year round, take a month or two off of structured training and start building your base up again in October then be ready to hit the Boston specific training in January.</p>
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<p>It's a great time to get chores done around the house, engage in a new hobby for a while, travel, sleep in on the weekend (you remember that, right?), get some nookie, eat the food you've been skipping, etc.</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Alaska Mike</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69249/ontopic-off-topic-post-im-now-what#post_1929341"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>It's a great time to get chores done around the house, engage in a new hobby for a while, travel, sleep in on the weekend (you remember that, right?), get some nookie, eat the food you've been skipping, etc.</p>
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Thanks, Mike, Hobby will be house work, and possibly some general stuff making sure I don't gain weight or lose too much muscle.. Pilates should help me build core and I wasn't planning much structured, just some general ideas.. You're right, it's been a long 7 months and is gonna be a long 3-4 to get this project done. </p>
 

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<p>Mike covered it all.</p>
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<p>You will not lose fitness overnight, nor over a month or more. You will lose fitness over a year of doing nothing, but not in your timeframe. So instead of continuing the grind, let it go and instead go do what is fun. It may be a Sunday stroll, or it may be a TT. But stop or cut back when the mind starts to chatter or you have second thoughts, because that's the beginning of burnout.</p>
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<p>What you are going through is normal for anybody having just gone through and completed a tremendous task that require many, many months of preparation. This is true for Ironman as well as even non sports related things.</p>
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<p>Drink beer, eat good food, ride your bike when you want, enjoy your wife, catch up on things around the house, and let social activities be your guide for swim, bike, and run and even all three put together.</p>
 

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<p>1!</p>
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<p>My post IM recovery was complicated by my dad's death, so I definitely had a forced rest period. </p>
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<p>But, don't underestimate the toll the IM took on you...........you're not a pro that can go out and do 3 or 4 or 5 IMs in a year.  Let your body recover....really recover.</p>
 

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<p>In MA you can do cyclocross and cross country running races through december, the two greatest sports known in the universe.  Beats fixing the faucet.  MA is the center of the universe for cyclocross, almost more than europe lately.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>jroden</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69249/ontopic-off-topic-post-im-now-what#post_1929511"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>In MA you can do cyclocross and cross country running races through december, the two greatest sports known in the universe.  Beats fixing the faucet.  MA is the center of the universe for cyclocross, almost more than europe lately.</p>
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*sigh*  unfortunately the "faucet fixing" may be on a tighter and less optional timeline than we'd prefer.  we need to prep my mother's half of the house for potential rental as she's considering a move.</p>
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<p>I'd love to do cyclocross, and selfishly, I've just decided Adam's not allowed to do it if I can't do it.  so there.<br>
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*sigh*  unfortunately the "faucet fixing" may be on a tighter and less optional timeline than we'd prefer.  we need to prep my mother's half of the house for potential rental as she's considering a move.</p>
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<p>I'd love to do cyclocross, and selfishly, I've just decided Adam's not allowed to do it if I can't do it.  so there.<br>
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<p>can I just use my Montain bike, JR?  I'm acutally thinking of mtn biking most of sept / oct.. I can get in a good hard workout in 2 hrs and enjoy things.  Now I just have to fix it up. :)<br>
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<p>Did you actually not have a beer months before the IM?  Don't do that.  There's no reason for that. </p>
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<p>To the subject, its pretty common to have residual fatigue for weeks/months after your first IM.  Withdraw from high levels of training can suck.  This gets better as you do more and continue to build the base.  I would let go and do something, challenging, yet outside the scope of triathlon training.  Trail running, rock climbing, road cycling with groups.  You don't need to be lazy and become a beer guzzling slug.  I believe maintaining high levels of physical activity all year round, is how some of the best athletes in the world get better.  The difference is physical activity vs. training.  So like others said don't have a plan, but I would enjoy something challenging. </p>
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<p>For you I wouldn't consider starting any off season "planning" until October.  you want to get fast on the bike, its about building your power over the winter.  You can worry about building your base afterwards when you start your "in - season" training plan, whenever that is. </p>
 

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You could do what Matt and I did post ironman - it's certainly a new adventure!</div>
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um, NO.</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>niemsco</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69249/ontopic-off-topic-post-im-now-what#post_1929570"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>Did you actually not have a beer months before the IM?  Don't do that.  There's no reason for that. </p>
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<p>To the subject, its pretty common to have residual fatigue for weeks/months after your first IM.  Withdraw from high levels of training can suck.  This gets better as you do more and continue to build the base.  I would let go and do something, challenging, yet outside the scope of triathlon training.  Trail running, rock climbing, road cycling with groups.  You don't need to be lazy and become a beer guzzling slug.  I believe maintaining high levels of physical activity all year round, is how some of the best athletes in the world get better.  The difference is physical activity vs. training.  So like others said don't have a plan, but I would enjoy something challenging. </p>
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<p>For you I wouldn't consider starting any off season "planning" until October.  you want to get fast on the bike, its about building your power over the winter.  You can worry about building your base afterwards when you start your "in - season" training plan, whenever that is. </p>
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<p>I didn't have a beer for the last 2 months.. just wasn't doing it because even 1 makes me dehydrated. I was happy with that and it wasn't a big deal. I'm actually only a couple of beers a month type of guy, except on a rare occasion. </p>
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um, NO.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;">(NTTAWWT)</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;">Um.. FTR, Beth, I'm all for the training they way you and Matt did, but we are not "racing." </p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>jroden</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69249/ontopic-off-topic-post-im-now-what#post_1929511"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>In MA you can do cyclocross and cross country running races through december, the two greatest sports known in the universe.  Beats fixing the faucet.  MA is the center of the universe for cyclocross, almost more than europe lately.</p>
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<p>Make babies. Ben asked me today for a Jewish cousin from Woostah!</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tithers</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69249/ontopic-off-topic-post-im-now-what#post_1929652"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>Make babies. Ben asked me today for a Jewish cousin from Woostah!</p>
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Um..... no, thanks.. as is obvious, we can barely control our own lives. why add someone else who will control it. </p>
 
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