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<a href="http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/18/white-men-and-the-obama-campaign/" target="_blank">http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/1...bama-campaign/</a><br><br>
As a pale-skinned, haver of testicles...its a proud day. <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

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Thank goodness. I was really getting tired of us controlling everything...
 

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Here's the text of the speech - I thought it was amazing, actually. But what do I know?<br><br><a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/flashos.htm" target="_blank">The Speech</a>
 

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I agree... I've pretty much always thought that black people didn't understand the way the white people felt.... I was wrong. (I'm glad I was wrong).<br><br>
I really didn't know there was so much hate for people like me... but that he acknowledged ligitimate concerns on bahalf of both whites and blacks makes me feel happy.<br><br>
The knowledge gained today gives me hope that things can actually be fixed.
 

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I thought it was a great speech.<br><br>
Being bi-racial has helped give him, I think, a very accurate and perceptive view of race relations in America.<br><br>
I was very surprised that Rush Limbaugh didn't like it, however. <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

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IMO he's not gotten in front of this and he will be harmed by this. some of the gurus say independents & conservative dems will now look at him in a different light. apparently some of the polling has supported that premise.<br><br>
he is even being accused of not telling the truth. apparently he's made some conflicting remarks about what he did and didn't hear in church.<br><br>
i don't know if the rev wright is truly a racist. but he has made racist remarks and there can be no doubt he's made anti-american remarks. and obama put this man on his staff.
 

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I always try to take a look in the mirror first.<br><br>
I definately don't agree with all the Catholic Church says, does, and stands for... but, I'm not turning my back on them either.<br><br>
Why should I ask this man to do what I am not willing to?
 

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I agree that there were several incredibly poignant, timely and historical points raised in Obama's speech today. The least of which not being how critical it is for Americans to stop denying the existence of problems of race, ethnicity and class/SE status in this country that has their roots in the principles on which this country was founded.<br><br>
The problem I do have, however, is that while a bit of generalization about race is generally appropriate in the context of discrimination legislation or corporate policy, building of a more collective, cooperative nation requires looking beyond the rhetoric that attempts to defines complex populations, e.g. "the black community." While I share many of Obama's views and disagree with almost as many, he no more represents me than does any other black American. And yet, many white Americans will, having heard or read his speech, feel that they understand what black people are "about;" in turn, many black Americans will feel they understand "white frustration."<br><br>
In my experience, I've found it to be expected, encouraged even, for whites, as a collective group, to have divergent opinions and perspectives, but that minority groups of all types are generally each reduced to a presumed homogeneity, based often on the loudest grievance <i>du jour.</i><br><br>
In my mind, the true growth will come when the complexities that exist within populations are accepted and employed as motivation for greater understanding, and not an excuse for perpetual ignorance on all sides. I'm hopeful that Obama's speech today will help galvanize Americans to start heading in that direction.
 

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Oh. Yes...absolutely, yes.<img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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I agree it was a really great speech. I think you hit the nail on the head with your last two paragraphs. I think real progress towards ending discrimination only started among whites after we stopped "closing ranks" to protect the bigots. Once white people stopped accepting racism among our friends and family, we could start making progress. (Obviously there is still much room for improvement.)<br><br>
It still seems like the black community closes ranks to protect it's own. A logical response to what they have had to go through for the last couple hundred years. But is this defense mechanism now doing more harm than good?<br>
Just thinking out loud, I guess
 

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Black is beautiful.<br>
Tan is grand.<br>
But White is the color of the big boss man.
 

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Black and white are fine- the only color that matters to me is the sweet sweet green of currency and strong economic policy.
 
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