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Well, I got a $100 gift card for Christmas to my local running store. The Austin Half Marathon is just a month away, and my current shoes have about 300 miles on them, so I figure it's time for new shoes. I'm currently wearing Asics Nimbus. I walked in asking for them, but they didn't have them in my size and called the other stores whom didn't have them either. So, I decided to just try some on.<br><br>
Long story short, I ended up in a stability shoe instead of the Nimbus. My first pair of running shoes were stability shoes, then I went to the running store and they put me in neutral shoes. I've worn the Nimbus, then Nike Pegasus, then Nimbus again. They've been fine, but the 2110s I had 2 years ago felt the best, imo. The guy today looked at my old Nimbus, watched me run, and asked me questions about injuries and such. I've had no injuries, but I had issues with the Nimbus pinching my heel on my left foot. That confirmed what he thought -- my left foot pronates. He even showed me on my shoes. It is very slight, but it's there. I'm guessing the woman I got before didn't notice it because the shoes I brought in were stability shoes. Who knows? So, I ended up with the 2130s (last year's model because they didn't have the 2140s in my size) for $85! I'm very happy and think these shoes will be better (we'll see -- I have a 16 mile run on Sunday). Got me some $10 socks as well. Later, I was thinking about my left knee ache that I get around mile 10. I thought it was from my car wreck, but I'm now guessing it is the shoes!! Ah Ha!! He also said he didn't think I needed the Kayanos, which is very good since they cost $35 more. Plus, I can get the 2130s for $60 right now since the 2140s are out.<br><br>
One question. He said the Mizunos and Brooks have a wider toe box than the Asics. I have never felt that, but I was always trying on neutral shoes. Any opinions on that from those who wear those shoes?
 

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Everybody is different, so be careful in taking what others say to heart.<br><br>
For me, the single best pair of shoes for logging all sorts of miles is the 2130. But that's for me. I love the feel. Love the cushion. And I do all of my long runs and middle-distanced runs in them. I like them so much that I bought an extra pair before the disappear to the 2140. I might even break them out this weekend even though I'm already running on an older pair with still many miles left.<br><br>
I have Nimbus (one of ten alternating pairs) that I hate. And the heel is tighter than all others.<br><br>
I have never had an issue with the toe box in Aiscs.<br><br>
I race and do speedwork in Adidas Supernova Cushion. Love the cushy feel. Makes me feel fast! They do at times hurt the bottom of my feet when I use them way too often on back to back longer runs. I have a stock pile of these puppies too! But I don't use them for speedwork when the temp is under 28F or so, because they are more a summer shoe, where my feet will freeze block white (Raynauds).<br><br>
The Ironmate ran in kayanos for the longest time, and now she's convinced they are the preciptator of her pesky chronic injuries. I never tried them. Don't need to.<br><br>
I've been wanting to try Nike, as I ran with those back in the '90's, but again, I already have my favorites with no need to branch out, but I'd gladly try them if I won a pair or something like that.<br><br>
Don't like Mizunos. Tried one pair, and although one make doesn't mean they all suck, mine broke down much too quickly. I'm the type who could get 600-800 or more miles on a pair of shoes. These things felt flat, and my body started aching, after 225 miles.
 

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Only shoe I can wear is Asics. I have narrow heels and wide feet (like a duck) so it's the only shoe that will grip enough behind. I always order D width since the regular width is not enough for me.<br><br>
Tried on Mizunos and Brooks but not the same fit nor comfort.<br><br>
Amazing price on your Asics! I think I paid almost double that for mine including taxes ...<br><br>
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I used to wear the 2100 series of Asics and was under the impression that they had a pretty roomy toe box. Loved the heel fit. But, my second toe in (and longest) would go numb on some runs even though laces were not too tight.<br><br>
I'm now running in Saucony Guides and they feel good. No toe numbness, but had to do some different lacing to feel like the heel would stay put on my size 10s. First pair was a size 9.5 and now that I've been in the 10s but sometimes walk around in the 9.5s, I can say that moving up to the 10s was a good move.<br><br>
Hated Nike and not thrilled with Mizuno.
 

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I love my Brooks Adrenalines!<br>
BUT, I wear mens versions. Even the women's wide isn't right for my foot, the wide isn't in the right place.<br><br>
I wear any stability shoe on sale for kicking around town and lifting, though.
 

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what size do you wear? neutral? stability? can't promise anything, but I can look when I got to storage next week.
 

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I am a Brooks whore. Been wearing Adrenalines since 2005. However, as I worked the Brooks booth at the Disney marathon this weekend, their shoe fitting guru told me I needed to use Glycerines for my shorter runs. Today was my first run and it was definitely different but they did feel good.
 

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Snooze.....<br><br>
Why would you wear one shoe for short runs and one for long runs?<br><br>
What's the difference between glycerines and adrenalines?
 

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His analysis of my legs:<br><br>
My left leg is slightly longer than my right and I am also slightly bow legged (I still can't tell). That causes me to pronate more in the right leg than the left, but even so, I don't pronate much. That is, until I start to get tired and my running form gets weak. Then my ankles start to lean in, causing me to need the Adrenalines. But for shorter runs (x<<img alt="cool.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/cool.gif">, my ankles and form stay true and actually suppinate slightly.
 

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i don't know you or anything about you, but that sounds very suspect. the adrenaline and the glycerine couldn't be more different (stability-wise).<br><br>
I spent over 2 years doing shoe fittings (via video analysis) at one of the top 100 running stores in the nation. in my job now, i still deal with shoes constantly.<br><br>
honestly, i'd go somewhere and get video analysis done for a second opinion. what you said that he told you just seems really weird. You run in very stable shoe and he tells you to run in a neutral shoe for short runs. Its just odd.
 

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I thought it was odd too, but I totally trust this guy. He is the longest running shoe fitter for Brooks in the company, he's writing a book about how to properly fit, and the entire time I was there, people would come and take pictures with him because he "saved their running".
 

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The 2110s weren't really a stability shoe. They stuffed up the support in those so they were alot different to the other 2000 series shoes. My 2110s were a disaster, 2120s are just fine. Could be why you liked the 2110s so much - probably just a smidge more support than a neutral shoe without being a full on stability shoe.<br><br>
I guess my point is, be careful going straight into a 16miler in the 2130s. They're going to be alot different to what your used to - you might need to adjust gradually to them rather than go straight into doing long runs.
 

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I cand definitely say that the toe box is wider on the brooks than the asics - I can't fit my giant pontoons (mens 10) into the asics in a standard width but the brooks trance are just fine. I have a relatively narrow heel for my forefoot too.<br><br>
Once my foot problem gets worse I will be in trouble. I have hallux limitus with arthritis in both big toes. I can already see issues with the limited range of motion, if I am running down a steep hill I can't stride too far or I overbend my toe joint which makes them really painful<br><br>
I suppose that didn't actually have anything to do with the question though.
 

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Started with Asics 2110 and hated what they did to the model going forward. The toe box kept shrinking. Moved to Sauconys which were meh. Now in Mizuno Wave Inspires and I LOVE them. Light, roomy, etc. The trick with Mizunos is that they're sized small. I wore a 7.5 in Asics but had to size up to 8 in Mizuno.
 

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Hey, I would seriously love to try Nike again... I would even offer to write up a review, if needed. Or anything other!<br><br>
Size 9 - Neutral<br>
(Definitely not stability. And I tend to favor cushion.)<br><br>
Thanks!
 

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I'm with the others in that it sounds odd to run in one type of shoe for shorter and another for longer. I get that the longer the distance the more "sloppy" we all tend to run (running fast, like on-edge, typically forces a more efficient stride). But you still have an issue, and in training shorter runs aren't always fast, and they're usually not enough to force that more efficieny.
 

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I understand the skepticism, but no offense to y'all, I am gonna trust the guy for now, unless some odd malady occurs. His resume and his work at the show impressed me.
 

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I guess it all depends on the foot, eh?<br><br>
In general, I've found Mizuno & ASICS fine in terms of toebox room. Brooks is a little bit tight on my feet, and Nike & Adidas give me blisters. I've only had one pair of Sauconys (which are actually feeling better as I put more miles on them) and they're fine toebox wise as well.<br><br>
In terms of the heel, the only issue has been ASICS, which unlike Thor I've found slip off my heel all the time. I had a pair of Nimbus which is the shoe I've gotten the most mileage from but I had to wear thicker socks to keep them on my feet.
 

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I train in Brooks Glycerin (I can get a ton of miles out of) or Nike Pegasus outside, Brooks Burn on treadmill, race in Asics speedstar...I used to race in New Balance 827. I've used Mizuno Wave for training and Precision to race but they last about one month, I thought New Balance broke down fast.<img alt="uhoh2.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/uhoh2.gif">
 
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