Monday 3.28

ksrunr · Mar 28, 2011

Decided to run this evening instead of this morning. Tonights schedule is for a 14 miler with 2 X 2 miles at mp with 1 mile easy between.
 
What's shakin in your world today?

Tamster · Mar 28, 2011

good morning KS! I was sad to see the outcome of the KU game. I didn't go there, but it was one of the universities I visited and really liked it. But ultimately, decided to be closer to home and went to Concordia College in MN. So, I guess because I was almost a Jayhawk and I walked the campus, I'm fan. plus, a jayhawk is just one the coolest mascots around. <img alt="wink.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif" style="width:16px;height:16px;">
 
today will be a rest day for me. just stretching and core work tonight. legs pretty tight from my run yesterday. I ran 14.4 miles yesterday. Because I've been under the weather for about 4-5 days now, I was not looking forward to running in the rain and we've had rain all.weekend.long. I was almost ready to head to the gym yesterday and run 14 on a TM, but then the sky lightened up a bit, I saw a few glimpses of some blue-ish stuff up there and decided to head outdoors. I knew once I was out there, even if it started raining again, I'd still stick it out. It's just so hard to actually START running when it's raining. But in the 2+ hrs I was out there, it only rained a bit around mile 6 and then again just as I was finishing up. Otherwise it was very pleasant out. and I was happy to get my long run done, since last weekends 13 miles only ended up being 9. With a marathon about 75 days out I would have been stressing had i missed my goal on two long runs like that.
 
question for you Johnny (and anyone else that has an opinion, I'd appreciate your input as well!) - on Pear Blossom day I am scheduled for 16 miles, but I'm wanting to race Pear. What would you do? Race it and then run a slow 6 afterwards, or switch a few weekends around so that I only have to run 10-12 that weekend and do my 16 maybe the next weekend?

evanflein · Mar 28, 2011

Tammy, could you run a couple easy to warm up, then do the race (it's a 10 miler?) then whatever else you need as a cool down? That's probably what I'd do, but switching things around is an option too, you just have to plan for it. Glad you got out for your run yesterday.
 
I wasn't so lucky. This cold has settled into my chest and I still have a lot of congestion and chest-rattling coughs. This really sucks. I feel better today, but not going to chance a run. I tried to run my Saturday run yesterday, and even scaled it back to a 7-8 miler, but I barely made it three miles before I had to stop. Felt weak and shaky, coughing terribly. We were at "Planet Fitness" and I think everyone thought I was typhoid mary or something. So, I'll go to the gym with DH at lunch, but won't even try a run.
 
Sorry about KSU, ksrunr. We were amazed at the upset in that game. Wow.

Johnny · Mar 28, 2011

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question for you Johnny (and anyone else that has an opinion, I'd appreciate your input as well!) - on Pear Blossom day I am scheduled for 16 miles, but I'm wanting to race Pear. What would you do? Race it and then run a slow 6 afterwards, or switch a few weekends around so that I only have to run 10-12 that weekend and do my 16 maybe the next weekend?
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If it were me, I would switch things around and subsitute a 10 mile race with 2 mile WU for the LR....but thats because I'm old & my weekly LR's alternate between long and almost long (12-15-12-17-12-20...etc.). You, on the other hand, have the ability to do just what Erika suggested, having already done it several times in the past.
 
Nice 14.4 yesterday too.

Liam3494 · Mar 28, 2011

Tammy,
 
I would go with the warm up and cool down before the race, as added mileage. I have done this many times when the schedule calls for a longer run, and I want to run a particular run. I have to confess to not getting over hung up about schedules calling for X miles, and I do a race instead. As you will invariably run the race harder than a training run, it does you as much good as the scheduled 16 miler would do. 
 
As for my legs, after yesterdays 10K Hash, I am definitely feeling it, but thankfully, in a nice way, rather than any niggles....

Hemerocallus · Mar 28, 2011

Hi KS, Tamster, Erika, Johnny and Liam!
 
Tam... I'd probably go with Erika's suggestion. Thought I had the same type of dilema myself when I first set up my schedule .... with the series season opener race (either 8 or 13 miles) scheduled for the same day as my first ever 20 miler. My original plan was to run the shorter race relatively easy on Sat, then take Monday off and do the 20. Turned out I was off by a week and the race day lines up with a cut-back week, so I'm OK with racing the half only, with a couple miles w/u.
 
Booked an appointment with the podiatrist for this afternoon to get a problematic callus pared down, and wasn't sure if I'd be running soon after, so decided I'd better get a run in before work. Only problem, beside's getting my butt out the door super early to get to work gym, was that it was -10°C, without windchill. 
 
7 slow miles around the neighbourhood on half frozen glutes and quads. 
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Took a long time to thaw out in the shower after!
 
Have a great day everyone!

OrangeMat · Mar 28, 2011

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Hello everyone. Tammy, your question is timely for me as well, since I have 16 on the schedule this weekend for the relay, yet I'm running a half. Though the way I feel with this cold today, I'm certainly not going to be racing that half...
 
Sorry I've been absent lately, still having posting issues. But I've finally given in and doing the work-around that HappyFeat suggested (and that I had figured out, but was resistant to doing; the sloppiness of the process irks me).
 
Anyway, this past weekend I did a triple, as was prescribed by the relay schedule. I flipflopped it for Saturday and took a much-deserved rest day on Sunday. Of course now this cold has blossomed now in the meantime.... 7.6 struggling miles today in the cold and wind. I wanted 8 but settled for what I got. I'll probably be bagging yoga tonight as well. Just took my temp and it's 99.4F...

Breathe easy, my Kick-frens.

Tamster · Mar 28, 2011

I appreciate the varying opinions on my question.
 
Last year when I was getting ready for a June marathon, I ran the majority of my long runs with a local race imbedded in them. I wasn't really "racing" them per se as my primary goal was the long run in preparation for the marathon, but I guess I ran each of the races more like "tempo runs" in the long run. This year I'm not doing that as much and actually not doing as many of the local races as I normally do. With the interval work I've been doing, I want to race this 10 miler just to see how much better I can do than last year.
 
john, that's pretty much how I'm attacking my long runs, which is what I also did last year. Every other weekend is a long run with the off weeks being a 12 miler. so something like: 14-12-16-12-18-12-20-12-22-12-20-8-marathon. Just so happens that Pear falls on my 16 mile week. Still not sure how I'll do it - thinking it over with input I got from you all.

tomwhite · Mar 28, 2011

[[[[erika]]]]]
 
lookin' good guys//.....
 
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..meself=SLACKER today
 
DoodleySquat.
 
.........poolrun and double weights tomorrow....
 
..................good running guys.......WarmStuff is almost here....

ripvanracer · Mar 28, 2011

{{{everyone with colds}}}
 
I vote for the race Tamster but I am ripvanRACER. 
 
I was going to do an easy run today but I felt great when I started my run so I ended up doing a medium effort until the last mile when I went race pace to
get in a PBJ special. 8 miles 60 minutes 2% incline I added on a 5 minute warmdown for another .62 miles. I switched treadmills from the one I had been doing my runs
on and this one seems a little more difficult at the same speeds. I think the other one may have been a little slower than it was supposed to as it would mysteriously speed up after about
50 minutes. I will definitely be taking an easy day tomorrow!!

evanflein · Mar 28, 2011

Yeah, those treadmill variations are hard. The one I was on last night felt very hard at just 6.8 mph, which is my warm up speed on my treadmill at home. But then again, maybe it was me. I just have no sproink at all.
 
21 minutes on the elliptical (2.4 miles) and 20 minutes of U/B weights at the gym at lunchtime today. I was telling DH that I should be doing leg workouts this week since I can't run. I usually avoid big leg workouts because they leave my legs too tired to run. But I have no wind these days so might as well work the legs? Maybe tomorrow. I'm sure hoping this crud is on it's way out. I'm used to adjusting my schedule to account for temperature or weather. I am not used to not running because of illness. This sucks. (ok, I'll stop whining now...)
 
Tammy, those embedded races into your long runs are really a good idea. You did a lot of them last year. You also had an awesome marathon last year, remember? It works. Really.

Better than yesterday · Mar 28, 2011

Sorry, my only opinion is oooh that sounds really far. 
 
I ran 9.2 miles today at lunch. I was able to reschedule a 1:00 meeting for 11:00 when the original scheduler didn't make it to work today. I hate 1:00 meetings by the way. So I'm trying to ramp up the mileage a wee bit at a time, and am not feeling too guilty about missing my 15 or 16 miler this past weekend, since I missed it due to travel in celebration of my lovely wife's birthday. Sneaking in an extra 4 miles at lunchtime cures the guilties for me.
 
What is shaking in my world is that I think I have created a couple of monsters. Monster Number One is a friend from HS ~ 30 years ago, who decided to start running last year and in his first year set a goal of 900 miles. He then wound up running something like 1200 or 1300 instead, and I challenged him to 1500 for 2011. So here I am at 301 for the year after just about 3 months (darn cold and snowy ones at that), feeling like 1500 is doable since I'll be ramping up towards 160 to 170 miles per month in the summer. Him? He's at 400 miles and going strong. I've urged him to design his running so that his monthly mileage chart looks like a shallow sine curve, but it sounds to me like it looks more like a straight line with a 3% grade vs. horizontal. The good news is that he told me tonight on fb that he intends to drop back to 120 mp month for the rest of the year, which will put him at 1580 (ironically, he's an artist, not an engineer) by the end of December.

irunmike · Mar 29, 2011

I like Erika's advice, Tammy.
 
I don't like the cold we both have though. I took an unscheduled day off from running because the chest congestion and coughing. Went to the gym instead and worked my core and lower body. But I'm going to try to get out tomorrow no matter what. The only good news is that this comes at the right time. I don't have another goal race until Memorial Day.
 
Stay Healthy, Kicksters.

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