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TMZ:<br><br><img alt="" src="http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/01/0111_marion_jones_bn_ap.jpg" style="border:0px solid;">A judge has just sentenced disgraced Olympic champion Marion Jones to six months in prison. Gimme that medal!<br><br>
Jones, who recently returned her three gold and two bronze medals, had begged a judge to keep her out of the slammer. The 31-year-old former runner and long jumper was one of the most celebrated female athletes in the world -- until it was revealed she routinely used performance-enhancing drugs.<br><br>
She recently admitted to lying to a federal investigator in 2003, and confessed that she took steroids "several times before the Sydney Olympics and continued using it after." What a role model.
 

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I know we have this conversation when La Tour rolls around<br><br>
She was an inspiration to me, that quiet disposition, shy smile and lightning speed not to mention the stamina to do it again and again. The first female runner short of Flo-Jo or was it Jackie Joyner (and who <i>really</i> relates) that I took notice of. The first one who seemed 'real'<br>
Problem is she was winning gold before she got juiced. Problem is I believed her when she angrily denied allegations. Problem is they took her money back for doing the drugs; she's going to jail not for taking illegal substances but for <b>lying</b> about taking illegal substances. Problem is, celebrity what is, she'll probably do a couple days.<br>
Problem is it is a problem.<br><br><i>It's like finding out Michael Jordan had nitrous in his pumps</i><br><i>Travis Pastrana has David Copperfield mirrors</i><br><i>Laird Hamilton faked the waves.</i><br><i>Shaun White <span style="text-decoration:underline;">doesn't</span> pull a Snoop Dogg (o.k. bad example)</i><br><i>Marilyn Monroe never slept with a Kennedy.</i><br><i>Kinda takes the wind out of your sails.</i>
 

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I still didn't understand what was she jailed for. Is it for taking the drugs? Because if it's so, it's insane. After all, it's just a game. You cheat, they suspend you and don't let you play anymore. Going to jail for this is absurd. Unless there were other things involved.<br><br>
In related news:<br>
If the pitcher and the hitter are both doped... doesn't it kinda cancel each other. I mean, you can't call it cheating, since none of them earns a comparative advantage. When Clemens pitches to Bonds, none of them has created an advantage to the other.
 

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It's confusing, I guess she got the jail time for lying in the testimony she gave regarding the Balco investigation? Nobody gets jail time for using steriods, or for lying about it.
 

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And how ridiculous is that. I don't understand, more politicians tell bigger whoppers than this and they don't see one day of jail time, not to mention the celebs.
 

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Yes. Exactly. I'm confused on how I feel about all of this. Maybe everyone here can help me gain clarity on taking a side.<br><br>
Marion Jones will go to prison for six months not for steriods or taking an illegal substance but rather for lying under oath about using steriods and being part of a check-fruad scheme. Yet most of us see it as if she has been framed for putting an illegal substance in her body. And although media outlets will say, often as a mere footnote, that she is going to jail for lying, they too sentence her in the public eye for having taking steriods.<br><br>
The part I have trouble with is, does the punishment (six months in prison) fit the crime (lying under oath for taking steriods and check-fruad)? Like, say, what would be the punishment for Barry Bonds if, say, he gets framed for lying under oath? Or Roger Clemens? Or Flyod Landis? Say they were all guilty, but say their guilt was more about lying under oath about taking steriods or some other illegal performance enhancement drug. Does that warrant six month prison?<br><br>
I don't know. Part of me thinks it is grossly unfair, that there are so many more crimes for which people commit that go unnoticed that maybe should not. Seems almost misguided to go after somebody like Marion Jones and slap her in the slammer for six months.<br><br>
The other part of me thinks about her role as a role model and all the kids she has misled and the other athletes she cheated. Still, I come to the stunning denial that six months is just, well, it seems unjust. I refuse to think it is so. But it is. She is being sentenced for six months.<br><br>
What would you do if you were in her shoes? And remember, it's not a black or white, this or that situation. It starts slowly. Somebody has suspicion and asks you about it. You, protecting yourself, deny it. Then more people find out. And by then you've already informally denied it over and over that, in a sense, you almost have to continue the lie. Until the lie becomes bigger than your penalty and you go under oath and get caught. What the hell is an oath anyway?<br><br>
Six months seems unfair if her only punishment was lying about taking steriods, even if she had her hand on a bible. I don't know the extent of the check-fruad, and maybe that's where they came up with the six months from, but let's say that didn't exist. Six months for lying under oath about taking steriods seems grossly misguided.<br><br>
Or maybe not. Explain away. I'm still trying to understand how I feel about this. And yes, I realize that with her taking steriods she in turn hurt and cheated every single one of her competitors, teammates, fans, and family and friends. It's wrong.
 

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I don't think any of us know enough of the details to decide whether the punishment is too much. She lied to federal investigators and was involved in a check fraud scheme. The severity of the punishment may be related to the severity of her lying and the extent off the check fraud scheme. Unless you read all the details of the case, I don't think you (a collective you, not anybody in particular) can judge whether the punishment is too severe.<br><br>
I will say, I am glad she is being punished. Typically people who have access to expensive layers get off too easy, while the under-represented get the book thrown at them.<br><br>
Now, I'd like to see some pro baseball players thrown in jail.<br><br>
Victor
 

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She is doing time because she lied to federal investigators and for the check fraud. The 6 months she recieved is part of a plea deal. The plea deal was basically 6 months in jail and admision of using the steroids. She was looking at alot longer time.
 

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Yeah, just learned about the check fraud thing. That should be enough for 6 months. Maybe even more, but probably she got a plea deal.
 

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This has always interested me.<br><br>
The bible. Church and State. I don't believe. So swearing on a bible to me would mean nothing.<br><br>
Now asking me if I were to lie in front of my father. NO WAY. He won't have it. You'd get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but<br>
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Everything I read today (and yes I dug deeper than TMZ) said 'she lied to the fed's' nowhere did I see that she was charged in connection with the check fraud<br>
I did however read she sued someone for <b><i><span style="text-decoration:underline;">$25 million</span></i></b> for slandering her character with false drug allegations and settled out of court. (I believe it was the Balco guy who first doped her & he did time for it) Suing someone for spilling your beans and taking their money. Now that's worth the 6 months IMO
 

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Thor: I think that having a punishment for someone lying under oath forms one of the bases of our (anglo-saxon/british-american) legal systems. Were there no penalty for perjury, then our court systems would stop to function. I agree that 6-months for lying about taking steroids seems a bit overdone, but not for lying in court. I must say, I don't have a huge problem with her going to jail.
 

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Dear Marion,<br>
Do your time, love your kids, and then come back. I miss your charm, your style. I'm still your fan, and would really like to see you run fast and wave to the crowds in the Hayward Field bleachers again. You can do it!<br><br>
Renee
 

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The whole story is kinda sad. However, she was an adult when she made the decisions that she made. And she has to deal with the consequences. I feel bad for her kids. Even though it's only for 6 months, that's 6 months that she can't get back. And I can't even imagine trying to explain this to the kids when they're old enough to understand what she did. I hope that she has learned from this.
 
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