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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Wow - Tim's race is just around the corner!  I hope tapering goes well.  JohnnyB - hope your 12K went well this week.  Happy Labor Day everyone!</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">June 5</span><br><b>Another Dam 50K</b></p>
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<p>Mailbox Head: Finish strong and healthy / <b>5:19:55</b><br><a href="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67289" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:#810081;">Race Report</span></b></a></p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">June 12</span><br><b>R.U.T.S [Run Under The Stars]</b></p>
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<p>Tim1: 50 miles (10 hour endurance run) /</p>
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<p><b>34 miles</b></p>
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<p><b>Lake Merritt Half Day, Oakland, CA</b></p>
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<p>bhearn: goal: not sure yet, but would like to run at least 100K. 65 or 70 miles would be better! It's a flat, 3.1M loop. Could be warm, though /</p>
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<p><b>62.9 miles; 2nd o/a; 1st a/g</b><br><a href="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67614" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:#0000ff;">long report</span></b></a></p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">June 19</span><br><b>Grandma's</b></p>
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<p>Trent: TBD</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">June 20</span><br><b>Mohican 50 Miler</b></p>
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<p>Sportigirl: sub-10 hour /</p>
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<p><b>a win!!</b></p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">July 4</span><br><b>Foot Traffic Flat marathon (Portland, OR)</b></p>
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<p>bhearn: 3:15</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">July 25</span><br><b>San Francisco Marathon</b></p>
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<p>bhearn: 3:20</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">September 18</span><br><b>USAF Marathon (Dayton, OH )</b></p>
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<p>Tim: 3:10</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">October 3</span><br><b>Twin Cities</b></p>
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<p>BigGahoona: sub-4:37 (PR)</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">October 10</span><br><b>Chicago</b></p>
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<p>Runninlaw: 3:25<br><br>
zrun: 3:20</p>
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<p><b>Mohawk Hudson River Marathon</b></p>
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<p>JenSparks: TBA</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">November 6</span><br><b>Indianapolis Monumental Marathon</b></p>
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<p>swallen1: 3:45</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">November 7</span><br><b>New York</b></p>
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<p>Hawk: TBA<br><br>
RunningINnyc: TBA</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">November 13</span><br><b>Chicamauga</b></p>
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<p>Jebba: sub-3:45</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">December 5</span><br><b>CIM</b></p>
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<p>JohnnyB: 3:10</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;">December 19</span><br><b>Jacksonville</b></p>
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<p>Florida Boiler: sub-4:00</p>
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<p>My training is looking up, folks and Chicago is no longer looking so questionable.  My time goal may have to be adjusted, but I am thinking I should be able to toe the line.  It was ridiculously humid during the beginning of the week, but terrific weather over the weekend.</p>
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<p>M:  rest / arms and core</p>
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<p>T: 8 easy (9:25)</p>
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<p>W: 5.1 recovery (9:39) / arms and core</p>
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<p>R:  10 miles with 5 x .5 mile repeats @ 5K pace (3:28, 3:29, 3:27, 3:30, 3:29); 90 sec recoveries / core</p>
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<p>F:  5.1 recovery (9:32) / arms and core</p>
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<p>Sa: 20 (8:55; last mile at 8:14) / core</p>
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<p>Su:  6 miles including a 5K with DS</p>
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<p><strong>Total: 54 and change  <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/headbang.gif" style="width:26px;height:28px;" title=""></strong></p>
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<p>I signed up for the Naperville Half Marathon next weekend.  Hopefully I'll have decent weather and a good opportunity to have a solid race pre-Chicago.  I was tempted to race the 5K this weekend, but my legs were way too heavy and stiff after my 20 miler so I didn't want to risk it.  I was VERY happy with my 20 miler.  First one since Boston in April!!</p>
 

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<p>Here are my totals for last week:</p>
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<p>Monday:  7.48</p>
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<p>Tuesday: 7.08</p>
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<p>Wednesday; 6.07</p>
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<p>Thursday: 7.23</p>
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<p>Friday:  6.11</p>
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<p>Planned for this week:</p>
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<p>Monday: 6</p>
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<p>Tuesday: 5</p>
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<p>Wednesday: 8</p>
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<p>Thursday: 6</p>
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<p>Friday: 10</p>
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<p><strong>Runninlaw</strong> - kudos on the 20 and good to see Chicago is looking good!  That half is in my neck of the woods, it is a great course and the crushed limestone is nice and easy on the legs.</p>
<p><strong>FB</strong> - way to start building it up, you'll be in marathon mode before you know it</p>
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<p>I was pretty much back to full strength this week, a little cooler weather for the 20 had me moving faster and smiling.</p>
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<p>M:  5.8 easy </p>
<p>T: 9.1 easy</p>
<p>W: 8 easy</p>
<p>T: 12.2 miles with 20 minute MP, 7 min recovery, 10 minute MP</p>
<p>F:  4.1 easy</p>
<p>Sa: 30 minutes bike </p>
<p>Su:  20.2 long run</p>
<p><strong>Total: 59.4</strong></p>
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<p>Already 5 weeks to Chicago!   I'm starting to look at logistical stuff for the weekend, should be a blast!</p>
 

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<p>Wow, great training everyone!  Certainly getting close to peak time for a lot of you.</p>
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<p>I had a light week mileage-wise, as I decided last weekend to shoot for a PR in Saturday's half-marathon, rather than training through it.  This meant tapering on Thursday and Friday, and I rested Sunday after the race (Monday is the normal rest day).  So, with only 4 days running, my mileage suffered, but it worked!  A 2 minute-plus PR at 1:40:32!  Woo-hoo!</p>
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<p>M - Rest</p>
<p>T - 6 miles, w/ 7 x 800 @ 3:21-3:23 (that was consistent!)</p>
<p>W - 6.3 easy</p>
<p>Th - 2 miles barefoot, plus core</p>
<p>F - Rest</p>
<p>S - 13.6, including 13.1 @ 7:40 pace</p>
<p>Su - Rest</p>
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<p>Total: 27.9 miles</p>
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<p>On the plus side, with this week's rest day moving back into last week, this should be a high-mileage week!</p>
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<p>Nice weeks, by everyone who's posted so far!</p>
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<p>Another week in the books for me. I wish I could say I felt as confident as you all. But my long run 2 days ago was pretty demoralizing. I ended up going 20.94 miles but hit the wall hard at about 17 and things got ugly from there. I started getting queasy with 2 to go and barely held it all down until I finished. That's only happened to me on a long run once before - and that was in my first-ever marathon at Philly in 2006. I can't blame the weather, which was perfect. I think maybe my nutrition was off...basically none of the liquids I took in late in the run went anywhere, they just sat in my stomach while the rest of me dehydrated. Average pace for the run 8:44/mile. HR 154, way too high for that pace. Ugh.</p>
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<p>Maybe it was just one bad run. Or maybe there's something else wrong, because I feel like I'm not hitting any of my performance/fitness targets right now, even though I'm putting in the work. I'm not sure but it seems ever since mid-summer when my 5k race results started to flatten that something hasn't been quite right.</p>
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<p>Oh well, I have a benchmark HM coming up in 12 days and the taper for that starts in 2 days. Depends on what happens there I may have to just re-evaluate my expectations for this season.</p>
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<p>Sorry to be so gloomy. Here's my week in review.</p>
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<p>M 8/30 - elliptical 1:00/5.1 miles</p>
<p>Tu 8/31 - 6.9 easy midday, 5 more easy in evening</p>
<p>W 9/1 - unplanned rest day, missed interval workout</p>
<p>Th 9/2 - 6.1 easy</p>
<p>F 9/3 - 6 mile trail run w/ fast finish (Manassas Battlefield NP)</p>
<p>Sa 9/4 - 6.4 easy, 20 min upper body weights, 10.2 mile trail bike ride w/ DW</p>
<p>Su 9/5 - 20.94 mile long run</p>
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<p>Total miles for week = 51.4</p>
 

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<p>Nice PR Steve!  Looks like the cooler temps are helping us all some.</p>
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<p>Hawk - I hate to hear your long run went bad.  Hopefully it was just an off run and your upcoming HM will go well.</p>
 

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<p>Runninlaw, still waiting for you to add California International Marathon 12/5 to the list...hint, hint...</p>
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<p>Some great mileage out there peeps. keep it up.</p>
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<p>Hawk, hopefully you will get your mojo back with your Half.  The other day I was kind of ruminating about what a sucky year its been for me compared to last year where every race seemed like a PR, but then when I thought about it, I do have Marathon, 15K, and Mile PRs this year, so not all bad. </p>
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<p>My week was going pretty well with some solid runs until about midway through my 12K on Saturday.  I had about 32 miles heading into Saturday's race and had planned another 8 to 10 on Sunday which would have been about 50 for the week. </p>
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<p>Friday I had a nice fairly fast paced run, nearly 12 miles, broken up about 8 miles in with a bridge up.  I realized that prob wasn't the greatest move the day before a longer race, but I wasn't planning to PR anyway. </p>
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<p>Well the race went quite well in the early going, despite a windy day on a pretty tough course.  First mile was 6:33, then 6:42 through some hills, 6:37, 6:35, and then....just after mile 4, right as we hit the water stop, my left calf knotted up rather painfully on me and I had to stop and walk.  Tried to see if I could stretch it out or walk it off but it wasn't going away.  I had foregone my usual pre-race gatorade, but I think it was more than that.  My non-existent stretching routine and history of calf issues was rearing its ugly head.  After a mile and a half or so of walking, I was able to manage a slow pace run, then a little faster and slowly built back up to near race pace by the last half mile, but it was way too late.  My chance to make top 20 was gone and I finished a disappointing 64th with an 8+ minute avg pace for 7.5 miles. </p>
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<p>I took the next three days off and was feeling pretty good last night, but then just some brisk walking around the office this morning seemed to flare up my calf again.  I will prob take another day off or do some serious stretching later and maybe try for a short easy run tonight.  My December race is still 3 months away, so I have a bit of time to recover.  I think I just need to get back to my calf stretching and reverse calf raises and I should be back on track.  Keeping the fingers crossed. </p>
 

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Yeah, I'm leaving a week from this Thursday to travel to the race.</p>
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<p>Taper is going like all tapers go...meh.  I really have no idea what I'm going to have for this race.  I've done the miles, but not really much in the way of quality speedwork or tempo work.  The weather has just been too hot.  We'll see how it goes.</p>
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<p>I'm pretty confident that I'll be lining up for another marathon and perhaps a 2nd go at BQ just three weeks after this one. </p>
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<p>Last week:</p>
<p>m - rest</p>
<p>tu - 6.8 hills</p>
<p>w - rest (felt a little sick)</p>
<p>t - 5.1 ez</p>
<p>f - rest (travel day)</p>
<p>s - 17.2 Long</p>
<p>s - 4.2 recovery + 18.2 miles on the bike</p>
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<p>total:  33.3 runing<br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Runninlaw</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69966/marathon-trainers-week-of-august-30#post_1942527"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Wow - Tim's race is just around the corner!  I hope tapering goes well.  JohnnyB - hope your 12K went well this week.  Happy Labor Day everyone!</span></span></p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>JohnnyB</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69966/marathon-trainers-week-of-august-30#post_1943203"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>Runninlaw, still waiting for you to add California International Marathon 12/5 to the list...hint, hint...</p>
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Doh!  Sorry about that.  What is your goal time?  Sorry to hear your race sucked.  Rest up the calf - sending healing vibes your way.</p>
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<p>Tim - I am in exactly the same boat.  I really have no idea what to expect for Chicago.  Makes it a bit of an adventure anyway, right? <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/dontknow.gif" style="width:37px;height:15px;" title=""><br>
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<p>Tim - I am in exactly the same boat.  I really have no idea what to expect for Chicago.  Makes it a bit of an adventure anyway, right? <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/dontknow.gif" style="width:37px;height:15px;" title=""><br>
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Yeah, I guess.  But, I think it was an adventure if the first 4 - 6 marathons where I was taking huge chunks of time off my PR and still learning how to train and coach myself.  Now, after 15 marathons it seems more formulaic.  I know that if I do this this and this, then I can expect to run this IF all the things line up, like weather and I feel strong, not sick, that sort of thing.</p>
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<p>So now, I feel like I'm heading to the line and I'm not fully prepared.  Like I'm missing some tools from my tool box.  But the flip side is that I'm a veteran runner with a large base to fall back on and plenty of race management experience.  And, I'm not putting a lot of pressure on myself...if it's there for the taking I'll go for it.  If it isn't, I'll dial it back and hopefully have a solid training run and an enjoyable race.  It's a GREAT race with an awesome atmosphere.  I could have a complete blow up and it still wouldn't be a failure because I love this race so much.</p>
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<p>Johnny - sounds like you had a great race.  You are running really strong and I think you're about to break through to the next level.  you could be running 3:05 or quicker by the end of this fall season. </p>
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<p>Hawk - sorry that your mojo has left the building.  I've had plenty of those confidence shattering long runs.  I had two of them this training cycle, where I had to walk it in.  I just re-focused on getting the miles and didn't worry about anything else.  I think once the weather breaks and the mileage goes up you ( and all of us) will feel like marathon racers again.  Instead of just slow run sloggers. </p>
 

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<p>Goal time is 3:10 right now.  I will dial that back if needed, but I think I can hit it if I can get this calf back in business and ward off  the achiness I've been feeling in my right knee</p>
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<p>Tim, you are due for a good race, I'm hoping this is the one with your name on it.</p>
 

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<p>JohnnyB - too bad about your calf, hopefully it will heal up quick and you'll be back in business for training for the CIM</p>
<p>Tim - Hope your tapering well.   Maybe you'll surprise yourself</p>
<p>Hawk - sounds like your fast-twitch mojo came back this week, hopefully the slow-twitch mojo will come around soon too.   Long runs in training are just unpredictable sometimes.</p>
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<p>Have a good weekend, all!</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>zrun</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69966/marathon-trainers-week-of-august-30#post_1943807"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><br><p>Hawk - sounds like your fast-twitch mojo came back this week, hopefully the slow-twitch mojo will come around soon too.   Long runs in training are just unpredictable sometimes.</p>
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<p>Yeah, thanks. For everyone else...I had a very good track workout 2 nights ago. Yesterday's recovery run went well too -- as good as that type of run can go, I guess. Anyway I feel like just maybe I've been able to reset my body and get back on track. It's amazing how important interval work is for me...last week I missed my planned interval workout and my long run sucked. This week I got it in and feel good again.</p>
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<p>One other thing - my goal time for NYC has been "TBA" so far. After I get through this HM on 9/19 I think I'll have a better idea of what I can do in the Big Apple. For Boston I made my goal 3:10, ended up at 3:20 (I was still happy with that). Whether I aim for the stars again this time depends on what I show at Wilson Bridge...that said, I think it will be very difficult to PR at NYC due to the large crowds and slow going in the early miles. Bottom line, after Wilson Bridge I will try to come up with a realistically aggressive goal time. <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif" title=""></p>
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<p>Happy training this weekend...at least here, the weather is fantastic. Forget spring and summer, September and October are the months to be in the nation's capital!<br>
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Yeah, I'm leaving a week from this Thursday to travel to the race.</p>
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<p>Taper is going like all tapers go...meh.  I really have no idea what I'm going to have for this race.  I've done the miles, but not really much in the way of quality speedwork or tempo work.  The <a href="http://selquetlingerie.com.au" target="_blank">lingerie</a> weather has just been too hot.  We'll see how it goes.</p>
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<p>I'm pretty confident that I'll be lining up for another marathon and perhaps a 2nd go at BQ just three weeks after this one. </p>
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<p>Last week:</p>
<p>m - rest</p>
<p>tu - 6.8 hills</p>
<p>w - rest (felt a little sick)</p>
<p>t - 5.1 ez</p>
<p>f - rest (travel day)</p>
<p>s - 17.2 Long</p>
<p>s - 4.2 recovery + 18.2 miles on the bike</p>
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<p>total:  33.3 runing<br>
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That sounds awesome!</p>
 
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