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Ok, after half-heartedly trying to "lose" since Jan, I am seriously back on track. Not just "trying to follow weight watchers" but going to weekly meetings and getting weighed in by the weight police. Today is my first meeting. So, I will post my first "lost" update next week.<br><br>
Good luck to everyone else! You've all been doing great!!!
Good luck to everyone else! You've all been doing great!!!
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Nice Job Ron!!<br><br>
Looks like everyone is headed is the right direction.<br><br>
ECT: I love weight watchers!!! I used them after college (OMG that was 20 years ago!!). I love them because they teach you how to eat real food, not some prepackaged stuff.<br><br>
Me: After about 10 weeks of loosing steady I didn't loose anything this week. Only change was no BIG workouts. My stress fracture site is bothering me again. I also find I am not eating enough calories so my body could be going into a bad mode.<br><br>
I met with a nutritionist yesterday for the first time. It was great. I got a good idea of where my calories should be. She wants me to aim for 2000 calories per day on an average workout day with a variance of 1800 to 2200 on non-workout days and my super long workout days. I have been tracking my calories for the last 2 weeks and I am averaging about 1600 so she really wants me to ramp that up. And she would love to see a 50% carb as well. Mine have been below 40% on most days. My bodyfat was 27%, I was expecting over 30% so I was happy with that. She said based on my bodyfat and muscle weight, she doesn't want to see me go below 142lbs, which would put me at about 20% bodyfat. She totally praised me for the way I have been eating, she just wants me to eat more, hey nobody has to tell me that twice.<br><br>
Jan 1. 167<br>
Today: 151.5
Looks like everyone is headed is the right direction.<br><br>
ECT: I love weight watchers!!! I used them after college (OMG that was 20 years ago!!). I love them because they teach you how to eat real food, not some prepackaged stuff.<br><br>
Me: After about 10 weeks of loosing steady I didn't loose anything this week. Only change was no BIG workouts. My stress fracture site is bothering me again. I also find I am not eating enough calories so my body could be going into a bad mode.<br><br>
I met with a nutritionist yesterday for the first time. It was great. I got a good idea of where my calories should be. She wants me to aim for 2000 calories per day on an average workout day with a variance of 1800 to 2200 on non-workout days and my super long workout days. I have been tracking my calories for the last 2 weeks and I am averaging about 1600 so she really wants me to ramp that up. And she would love to see a 50% carb as well. Mine have been below 40% on most days. My bodyfat was 27%, I was expecting over 30% so I was happy with that. She said based on my bodyfat and muscle weight, she doesn't want to see me go below 142lbs, which would put me at about 20% bodyfat. She totally praised me for the way I have been eating, she just wants me to eat more, hey nobody has to tell me that twice.<br><br>
Jan 1. 167<br>
Today: 151.5
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Ron: excellent! That is a big milestone and you are fast approaching that 230# milestone.<br><br>
Monica: well done -- but don't forget about the 200# challenge!<br><br>
Julie: way to get yourself back on track.<br><br>
Kristine: that's stinks about the stress fracture giving you problems. It sounds like you've got a good nutritionist now and isn't nice to hear you need to eat *more*?<br><br>
Me: 215.4# last week and 213.0# this week (-2.4#). This seems to be the trend. Lose nothing one week then 2# the next week. It's so just about when you weigh-in too. This weekend I stepped on and saw 212# Sat, 213.8# Sun, 213# Mon, 215# yesterday, 213.8# this morning and last night before bed: 219.4#! It's so arbitrary. Of course, I had to get up and pee 3x last night so that might have something to do with the 219# <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">. So, 213# it is since Monday is weigh-in day and if I don't do it at the same time/day each week I could go nuts.<br><br>
213# means I've lost 12# since 1/1 which is 40% of my goal of 30# by August (195#). <img alt="banana.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/banana.gif">
Monica: well done -- but don't forget about the 200# challenge!<br><br>
Julie: way to get yourself back on track.<br><br>
Kristine: that's stinks about the stress fracture giving you problems. It sounds like you've got a good nutritionist now and isn't nice to hear you need to eat *more*?<br><br>
Me: 215.4# last week and 213.0# this week (-2.4#). This seems to be the trend. Lose nothing one week then 2# the next week. It's so just about when you weigh-in too. This weekend I stepped on and saw 212# Sat, 213.8# Sun, 213# Mon, 215# yesterday, 213.8# this morning and last night before bed: 219.4#! It's so arbitrary. Of course, I had to get up and pee 3x last night so that might have something to do with the 219# <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">. So, 213# it is since Monday is weigh-in day and if I don't do it at the same time/day each week I could go nuts.<br><br>
213# means I've lost 12# since 1/1 which is 40% of my goal of 30# by August (195#). <img alt="banana.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/banana.gif">
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I'm not really trying to lose weight, but I have been.<br><br>
A little history. In January 2007, after a holiday season of massive overeating my weight was up to 194 and bodyfat was 24%. I worked fairly hard last spring to prepare for an HIM and got my weight down to 170. Stayed right around there for much of the summer, but it started creeping back up and by October I was at 178.<br><br>
Since mid September I started ramping up my weekly running miles with a goal of averaging 50+ miles per week. Since October I've been at that goal and have been slowly increasing the miles with daily running. I've only taken a total of 6 days off from running since October 1, and none at all so far this year.<br><br>
My weight at the start of October was 178 with BF of 19%. Now I'm down to 157 with BF of 13%. I haven't really dieted at all other than to not eat high fat junk food snacks or much of anything from fast food places.<br><br>
I have no idea of my daily caloric intake, but I eat breakfast, lunch, and supper - often several plates of food at supper - and snack on pretzels or fruit during the day. I also enjoy a beer or glass of wine almost every day. I'd guess I take in somewhere between 2500-4000 calories depending on the day.<br><br>
The key for me has been the daily running. I try to run roughly the same distance every day, instead of a bunch of short runs and one long run. A 50 mile week is daily runs of 6-9 miles each. More recently a 70 mile week is runs of 9-12 miles each. All the runs are done at a slow, easy pace. I rarely even think of running fast during the daily runs, just focus on covering the distance at a steady pace. For example: if my average pace is 9:30, my mile splits will range from 9:10-9:50. I try to maintain this kind of steady pace, but I don't fret about it and I never even look at my Garmin until the run is over. I go by perceived exertion. I also try to maintain good running form throughout each run, rather than start out good and resort to shuffling near the end.<br><br>
My only form of speedwork has been racing. I have raced roughly every two weeks since the beginning of October. I'm fortunate that our local running club is very active and has many inexpensive races. I did a 4 race XC series last fall for $30 and a 4 race winter series for $30. Three other club races were free to members, so right there that's 11 races for only $60.<br><br>
So far the results have been very good. Since the beginning of the year I've run 6 PRs and the other races have all been my course bests by far. Without doing any speedwork or tempo runs in training, my speed has improved quite a bit. The first weekend in January I ran a 2 mile race PR (only because it was the first 2 mile race I've ever done) of 14:56. Last weekend in the first 2 miles of a 5K I ran 13:55 - a 30 second per mile improvement. It's amazing that I can run around a 7:00 pace when I rarely run faster than 9:00 pace in any of my training runs. On occasion, maybe every 2-3 weeks if I'm feeling particularly good I may go as fast as an 8:30 average pace on a training run.<br><br>
I don't know if this type of training will help everyone. However, I've talked with a local ultra runner, who often runs in excess of 200 miles per week leading up to major ultra races, and he has been amazed at his speed in shorter races even though his training is mostly done at around 9:00 pace. For example: two weeks after winning a 100 mile ultra, he ran a local trail marathon in a course record time of 2:42.<br><br>
More to the point of this thread though, is that the daily running has been very successful at bringing my weight down significantly. That alone may be a major contributor to my improved speed. Now since we're triathletes here instead of just runners, you may want to consider applying this approach differently. Perhaps trying for a minimum of either one hour of running, two hours of biking, or an hour and a half of swimming every day. Couple that with eliminating high fat and/or sugary junk foods and soda - and not eating at fast food joints.<br><br>
Just food for thought!
A little history. In January 2007, after a holiday season of massive overeating my weight was up to 194 and bodyfat was 24%. I worked fairly hard last spring to prepare for an HIM and got my weight down to 170. Stayed right around there for much of the summer, but it started creeping back up and by October I was at 178.<br><br>
Since mid September I started ramping up my weekly running miles with a goal of averaging 50+ miles per week. Since October I've been at that goal and have been slowly increasing the miles with daily running. I've only taken a total of 6 days off from running since October 1, and none at all so far this year.<br><br>
My weight at the start of October was 178 with BF of 19%. Now I'm down to 157 with BF of 13%. I haven't really dieted at all other than to not eat high fat junk food snacks or much of anything from fast food places.<br><br>
I have no idea of my daily caloric intake, but I eat breakfast, lunch, and supper - often several plates of food at supper - and snack on pretzels or fruit during the day. I also enjoy a beer or glass of wine almost every day. I'd guess I take in somewhere between 2500-4000 calories depending on the day.<br><br>
The key for me has been the daily running. I try to run roughly the same distance every day, instead of a bunch of short runs and one long run. A 50 mile week is daily runs of 6-9 miles each. More recently a 70 mile week is runs of 9-12 miles each. All the runs are done at a slow, easy pace. I rarely even think of running fast during the daily runs, just focus on covering the distance at a steady pace. For example: if my average pace is 9:30, my mile splits will range from 9:10-9:50. I try to maintain this kind of steady pace, but I don't fret about it and I never even look at my Garmin until the run is over. I go by perceived exertion. I also try to maintain good running form throughout each run, rather than start out good and resort to shuffling near the end.<br><br>
My only form of speedwork has been racing. I have raced roughly every two weeks since the beginning of October. I'm fortunate that our local running club is very active and has many inexpensive races. I did a 4 race XC series last fall for $30 and a 4 race winter series for $30. Three other club races were free to members, so right there that's 11 races for only $60.<br><br>
So far the results have been very good. Since the beginning of the year I've run 6 PRs and the other races have all been my course bests by far. Without doing any speedwork or tempo runs in training, my speed has improved quite a bit. The first weekend in January I ran a 2 mile race PR (only because it was the first 2 mile race I've ever done) of 14:56. Last weekend in the first 2 miles of a 5K I ran 13:55 - a 30 second per mile improvement. It's amazing that I can run around a 7:00 pace when I rarely run faster than 9:00 pace in any of my training runs. On occasion, maybe every 2-3 weeks if I'm feeling particularly good I may go as fast as an 8:30 average pace on a training run.<br><br>
I don't know if this type of training will help everyone. However, I've talked with a local ultra runner, who often runs in excess of 200 miles per week leading up to major ultra races, and he has been amazed at his speed in shorter races even though his training is mostly done at around 9:00 pace. For example: two weeks after winning a 100 mile ultra, he ran a local trail marathon in a course record time of 2:42.<br><br>
More to the point of this thread though, is that the daily running has been very successful at bringing my weight down significantly. That alone may be a major contributor to my improved speed. Now since we're triathletes here instead of just runners, you may want to consider applying this approach differently. Perhaps trying for a minimum of either one hour of running, two hours of biking, or an hour and a half of swimming every day. Couple that with eliminating high fat and/or sugary junk foods and soda - and not eating at fast food joints.<br><br>
Just food for thought!
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Wow! Everyone is doing so well! Dougie: 40% there with months to go, you'll surely hit it.<br><br>
Kristine: Way to go WCT! I really admire how you have been so determined and stuck with this, great, great job! I just got back from my WW meeting and am really excited. I feel the way I did 5 years ago when I was finally READY to really commit to the plan. Just curious, what is your goal? I am 5ft 8 and my goal is 150. I can get down to 147 or so but it is REALLY hard to maintain, I think my body really likes 150-153.<br><br>
Kate & Beth: Hope you have great results too!<br><br>
Dougie: I am the same, once I start losing, I'll see .3 down, then the next week 2 pounds....seems like it takes time for my body to catch up.
Kristine: Way to go WCT! I really admire how you have been so determined and stuck with this, great, great job! I just got back from my WW meeting and am really excited. I feel the way I did 5 years ago when I was finally READY to really commit to the plan. Just curious, what is your goal? I am 5ft 8 and my goal is 150. I can get down to 147 or so but it is REALLY hard to maintain, I think my body really likes 150-153.<br><br>
Kate & Beth: Hope you have great results too!<br><br>
Dougie: I am the same, once I start losing, I'll see .3 down, then the next week 2 pounds....seems like it takes time for my body to catch up.
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Julie;<br><br>
I would like to try and maintain at 145. According to my nutritionist, this puts me at 22% body fat. Once I loose the weight, I'll have to see what maintence will be like. I would not be unhappy if I maintained around 150 but my weight has flucuated so much my whole life I don't know what my "real" weight is. A size 8 would be nice!!!!
I would like to try and maintain at 145. According to my nutritionist, this puts me at 22% body fat. Once I loose the weight, I'll have to see what maintence will be like. I would not be unhappy if I maintained around 150 but my weight has flucuated so much my whole life I don't know what my "real" weight is. A size 8 would be nice!!!!
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Hi everyone, My life got in the way of weigh in this week. I am about the same. I will be out of town next week, so I don't even know if I will be able to check in. We will see. I have a school laptop, and am a little leary about hauling it cross country, just so I can talk to imaginary friends. I would be in deep doo-doo if something happened to the computer while I was at Disneyland, and not on a trip with my school (going with DH's Band). Don't think my honking big desktop will fit in my suitcase.
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Another week of no change for me. Like Julie my effort has been half-hearted. But I am going to make the effort now to get this fat moving.<br><br>
Excellent work to the losers.<br><br>
My "happy weight" is a weight I have not been at for 20 years, 139 lbs. I am not sure it is feasible especially as a mature athlete. Anyway, I worked it out but will add 5lbs which takes me to where I was a few years ago, 144lbs.
Excellent work to the losers.<br><br>
My "happy weight" is a weight I have not been at for 20 years, 139 lbs. I am not sure it is feasible especially as a mature athlete. Anyway, I worked it out but will add 5lbs which takes me to where I was a few years ago, 144lbs.
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