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Love the thread idea and don't want to see it die. Thought maybe weekly or bimonthly would be the best way to keep it fresh?<br><br>
Since I've not done POTD, I'll introduce myself a little bit running wise: It began as serious effort in 2004 when I quit a pack and 1/2 a day smoking habit on 7/31/2004. By September of 2005 I was ready to try the Marathon again. I had ran two prior in the 1990's that were good efforts just to finish.<br><br>
My times since 2004:<br><br><br>
2005:
<blockquote><p>4:55:22 Heart of America</p></blockquote>
2006:
<blockquote><p>4:19:20 St. Louis</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>4:21:08 Heart of America</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>4:23:56 Run for the Ranch</p></blockquote>
2007:
<blockquote><p>4:01:53 Heart of America</p></blockquote>
BQ Goal: 3:30<br><br><b>What I'm doing different in 2008:</b> I just got a Heart Rate Monitor. I'm going to do the different types of runs based by percentage zones based on Heart Rate Reserve. I'm doing this because I've discoverd my running by perceived effort sucks! I got the HRM for Christmas and ran a few runs with it just on. I found I would do the early run portion above the suggested long run zone of 70% - 80% of HRR. Then after about 6 - 8 miles my heart rate effort would be well below the zone. I did a 15-miler yesterday. The end miles I felt like I was having to nearly sprint to keep above the zone floor. My end miles were at a slower pace than the beginning miles, but the spread between them was much less. I hope that by training this way I will be in better shape and resolve some end of Marathon issues I've had.<br><br><b>Races I'm excited about in 2008:</b><br><br>
St. Louis Marathon, Berryman 50-mile trail run,<br>
Heart of America Marathon.<br><br>
I've entered St. Louis. I'll enter the Berryman as soon as it opens on 1/5. I did my first 50k in 10/07 and it was a great experience. I'll always do the Heart since it is ran in my hometown.<br><br>
As for the daily run I did an easy paced 8-miles at 60% - 70% of HRR. Averaged 137 bpm. I'm running a 5k race this evening to get a handle on what my Max HR is.<br><br>
Hope everyones year starts well and the thread lives. It was a great idea and here's hoping it continues with the dream!
 

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Hey, I think a weekly thread is a great idea!<br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Marathon Recaps</span><br>
10/05 - Chicago - 5:25<br>
03/07 - ING GA - 5:30 *HILLY!!!!*<br>
04/07 - CMM - 6:18 *Preceeded by an entire week of very little sleep and 2 weeks of no running*<br>
05/07 - Madison - 5:18<br>
10/07 - Grand Rapids - 4:58<br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">2008 Marathons</span><br>
February - Surf City CA<br>
June - Marathon to Marathon (maybe)<br>
September - Akron OH<br>
December - Las Vegas or Tucson AZ<br><br><b>2008 Goal</b>: 4:30 at December marathon<br><br><b>What will be different this year:</b> Speedwork once a week starting in February. Possible increase in weekly mileage later in the year.<br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Recap of last week</span><br>
S - 8 miles easy<br>
M - rest<br>
T - 6 miles easy<br>
W - rest<br>
T - rest<br>
F - rest<br>
S - 50K Trail Race<br><br>
This week will likely be all crosstraining as I have some pain in my right ankle and soreness in the area leading up from the outer part of that ankle.
 

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<b>Nettie:</b> Glad your in! Speed work would help me also. Last year the main speed work I got in was from racing. What are you planning? I would like to work in mile repeats. It will be March before the local track opens up. Until then I will do 1 run per week at tempo pace.<br><br>
Raced the 5k this evening in 22:54. It was my third fastest 5k this year and 14 seconds from being a PR. Not bad considering I've put on 16#'s since I ran 22:40 in July. Weight is something I've got to get back to work on.
 

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hello all,<br><br>
i raced a 5K yesterday as well and PR'd by 10 secs which i'm happy about. perhaps the most exciting part is that i didn't feel like i "left it all out there" on the course. the beginning was rough with a bunch of slower runners i had to weave through.. plus i think i had more left in the tank. i think i'm going to aim for 23:30 next time around <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> 2007 was a brilliant year for me and i'm excited to see what 2008 brings. happy and healthy running to all!!
 

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Congratulations on the 5k missy!<br><br>
10-miler today. Goal was to run it between 70%-80% of Heart Rate Reserve. Avg 150bpm which was within the range and had average pace of 9:14 minute miles. Felt like a hard effort while I was running it but I feel okay now. It will take some getting used too pushing faster paces to keep the heart rate on target.
 

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I ran 10 miles Sunday and 13 miles yesterday. Been getting little muscle pains here and there, running in the cold seems to do that to me. Massaged one out in my upper hamstring Sunday night, it's totally gone now, but a new one in upper calf showed up yesterday. Taking today off, then heading for 8, 8, 8, 11 for remainder of week. I don't have a marathon on my calendar yet this year. I may put one on myself to give myself an April calendar item. I think I can get 3 entrants...
 

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missy, Congratulations on your PR!<br>
pace2race, thanks for keeping this thread alive!<br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Marathon/Running history:</span><br>
2000: Dublin, IRE 4:4x (?) couch-to-marathon with TNT.<br>
Fun, but hit the wall at 23 and walked a lot those last 3 miles.)<br><br>
2001: Vermont 4:3x (?)<br>
(ran with friends, had trouble beginning at mile 20 and did a sort of run walk.)<br><br>
(2001-2004 - a lot of inconsistency in running, but did run occasionally)<br><br>
2006: Disney 4:06:20 - 1st BQ attempt (a laughable one, but it was a fun marathon)<br>
(The wheels fell off at mile 16 (!) and I did a lot of walking beginning at mile 20/21. I really wasn't in shape for it, and hadn't put in the mileage for it. Although 2005 was a more consistent year for me - and I dropped my HM from 1:52 at the beginning of the summer to 1:46 in the fall - there were still a lot of 0 weeks and random low and high mile weeks.)<br><br>
(2006-2007 - had to take a break in running: dealing with illness & beginning a new chapter in life + weird non-running knee injury for most of the summer of 2007. Able to/committed to start running again in October/November.)<br><br><span style="text-decoration:underline;">2008 Plans/Goals</span><br>
Improve consistency and get Ave MPW up to 50-60. (I think the inconsistency is what gets me injured.)<br>
My Marathon goal for Cleveland - NO WALKING at the end. I seem to lack the mental will power to keep with it - so I'll be focusing on this. Then, maybe in the fall try for the BQ if everything goes well with training this spring and summer. (But this still may be a bit of a reach for me)<br><br>
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Hey e! Interesting history. My best marathon time was the one where I finally didn't walk any of the last 6 miles. It was tough, but definitely doable. I look forward to seeing how consistency pays off for you! <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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Nettie, thanks for the vote of confidence! <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes too. Awesome job at the 50k - I could definitely learn a lot from you about willpower!
 

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Thanks! I'm just a lil' stubborn. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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R2P, i hear you on the harder effort and pushing yourself. its hard sometimes when you really want to just back off a teeny weeny bit.. thats when will power comes into play. keep it up!!!<br><br>
e, what is your BQ time?
 

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I'll throw my name in the hat here too. Some of you probably read my info in the other thread, but oh well.<br><br>
Marathon History:<br><br>
Austin 2004: 5:21<br>
Houston 2005: 5:23<br>
Austin 2005: 5:55<br>
Sunmart 50k 2005: 8:40<br>
Houston 2006: 5:16<br>
Sunmart 50k 2006: 7:48<br>
Houston 2007: 5:12<br>
IMAZ 2007 Run: 6:21<br>
Chicago 2007: 5:54<br>
Sunmart 50k 2007: 6:33<br><br>
I'm running Houston in less than 2 weeks and am hoping for a huge breakthrough. I don't think asking for a PR is asking too much.<br><br>
I started doing track/speed workouts in February and have been running very consistently since then. I am far more trained for Houston than I have been for any other marathon. I was trained for Chicago, and that just sucked, but I have just built on that fitness and have a huge base right now. I'm doing IMAZ again this year and would like to get my run there closer to 5:30, but that is a whole other story.<br><br>
I'd love a 4:30 in Houston, but a 42 minute PR may just be asking too much. I keep telling myself I need to be content with a 4:45 or so because that is still a huge PR. I'm afraid I'm getting too greedy and need to calm down a bit before the race. I'm just hoping for good weather and I'll go from there.<br><br>
I dropped about 10 lbs in November and that has helped a lot (5 min 10k PR and 1:15 50k PR). Boston is still a long, long way off, but I have recently gotten pretty fired up about running and want to take it seriously for a while, but I'm just not exactly sure when! I love tris too, so it is a tough balance and I'm not quite willing yet to let the long tri's go for a little while to focus on running. The good thing is the cross training helps keep me relatively injury free for now.<br><br>
I've also had IT band problems since I started running and may finally have it under control. I do not know what it is like to show up at the start line of a marathon uninjured. It has not happened before for me. I just need to be super nice to my body for the next ~12 days and keep my fingers crossed, and great things might happen for me.
 

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missy,<br>
My BQ time is 3:40. From what I read in your first "Looooong road" post, we have similar training goals this year! <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> My plan is to try to get to 70mpw too. (I built a plan based on Pfitz's 18/70, but modified a little with some Daniels long tempo stuff & early interval work -- it's a little ambitious for me, so I may modify further depending on how things go)<br><br>
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Woot! 6°F and still managed 10.4 miles. Glad this cold will be moving out before the weekend. Back to work today.<br><br><b>RP:</b> Take care of the sore calf. Do you use the stick?<br>
What M's do you run in Alaska?<br><br><b>e:</b> Looks like you've ran in some nice locations.<br><br><b>kcwoodhead:</b> What kind of runs and mileage are you doing during taper?
 

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Good morning and happy new year, folks.<br><br>
Ran a 25:50 5k on NYE a few days ago. Slightly dissappointed, was hoping for an 8:00 pace, but I guess I'm just not there yet. The course had quite a bit of roll to it. .<br><br>
I've now got my VDOT rating so I know my training paces. Looks like I should be able to break 4:00 in May as long as I put in the work. I should be a few pounds lighter by then, too.<br><br>
Pfitz's 18/55 starts on 1/12. Looking forward to marathon specific training. I've been running just to run for a while now.
 

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Can I join this thread? I'm definately taking the scenic way to Boston! My last 2 races were 4:19 (PA-Sept 2007) 4:23 (Richmond-Nov 2007) I need 3:50 to qualify. I'm still debating whether to do a full this spring or work on my HM time (PR is 1:49-would like to do 1:45) and then do a full in fall or to do a spring and fall marathon. I'm not sure which would be better, any suggestions? I'm doing the HM at Disney next week but am not expecting any great time off that-I've been slacking a bit over the holidays.<br>
Spring marathon for me would be NJ or Poconos. I don't know what fall will be probably Baltimore. The good news is-I just keep getting older and my qualifying time gets higher I could just wait till I'm 70 and continue running at this pace<img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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I did a pace workout at track last night - about 3.5 miles and have a long run of 8 miles planned for this Saturday. Besides that, I'm not totally sure. I usually do what I feel like during the last 1.5 weeks, which usually isn't much. Life has also recently thrown me a curve ball with the death of 2 friend's dads, so I will be putting them ahead of running over the next few days while I try to help out.
 

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Of course you can join; all who have a serious desire and willingness to work are welcome.<br><br>
You HM/Full question is a great one. I think the answer lies in what kind of training you're going to be doing. Pfitz and, to some extent Daniels, give a really heavy emphasis on tempo running for both the full and the half. If you develop your training around their philosphies, I think doing a HM might be a good idea. Training for a HM while putting a heavy emphasis on LT training should give a nice boost to your lactate threshold but not as much overall stress that marathon training gives you. PR the HM, then use your improved lactate threshold as a great springboard for training for a fall marathon.<br><br>
I'll hedge that by saying I've been a runner for almost two years and have only one marathon to my name, so keep that in mind when evaluating my input.
 

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kruss, welcome aboard!<br>
I don't know about the marathon/hm question either - I'm still trying to decide too. But, I have heard it said by many here that sometimes it's a good idea to train as if for the marathon, then you can run the half or the full. (Do NJ or Poconos have a HM associated with them? If so, it might be possible to register for the marathon, then switch if you're not feeling confident about the marathon.)<br><br>
Also, good luck at Disney. It is a lot of fun.<br><br>
--e.
 
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