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<p>...and Christians go absolutely ape-sh*t. Check out the comments in <a href="http://www.myfox8.com/news/wghp-story-king-christian-flag-100916,0,3610370.story" target="_blank">this story</a>. I live near this town (it's frigging <em>tiny</em>) and, of course, we are the rodeo-sized buckle on the Bible Belt in these parts but this is just embarrassing. These people are acting like this flag is the lynchpin to their entire world view. Maybe it is.</p>
 

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<p>I can't see the comments, but living near Kentucky, I can only imagine.</p>
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<p>Only a Christian flag is (was) being flown?  Is it only a memorial to Christian veterans?  Or all veterans?  Or are the Christians the only ones anybody cares about?</p>
 

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<p>Things like this make think of what Roger would say...</p>
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<p>(or the fact I've got Monty Python on the brain this morning)</p>
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<p>Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say Ni at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.<br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mrscoby78</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/70173/local-city-council-votes-to-take-down-christian-flag-from-public-property#post_1946086"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I can't see the comments, but living near Kentucky, I can only imagine.</p>
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<p>Only a Christian flag is (was) being flown?  Is it only a memorial to Christian veterans?  Or all veterans?  Or are the Christians the only ones anybody cares about?</p>
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Several flags are flown, one of which was a Christian flag. (I didn't even know there was such a thing as a Christian flag.) It was flown over a memorial to local veterans but only a minority of the comments related the removal of the flag to the context of the memorial. Most of the comments interpret the removal of this one flag as a clear sign that the whole world hates Jesus.</p>
 

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<p>I didn't know there was a Christian flag either.  My point is just that there are veterans of other faiths.  Yet, we only honor the Christian faith?</p>
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<p>And "the whole world hates Jesus" attitude is just fuel for more hate and intolerance.<br><br>
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Several flags are flown, one of which was a Christian flag. (I didn't even know there was such a thing as a Christian flag.) It was flown over a memorial to local veterans but only a minority of the comments related the removal of the flag to the context of the memorial. Most of the comments interpret the removal of this one flag as a clear sign that the whole world hates Jesus.</p>
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<p>Christians have their own flag now?? Shit.......Islam, Judaism & company need to get with the program!</p>
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<p>This seems to fall under the same category as removing overly christmasy stuff from public locations......a good idea, but one more thing for the zealots to get up in arms about.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mrscoby78</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/70173/local-city-council-votes-to-take-down-christian-flag-from-public-property#post_1946144"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><p>And "the whole world hates Jesus" attitude is just fuel for more hate and intolerance.<br>
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<p>The idea of the world hating Christ Jesus is a couple thousands years old and far from new.  Here is the holy Son of God, who stepped down from His eternal throne, humbled Himself, was rejected, beaten, mocked, and nailed to a cross and died to reconcile sinful man back to Holy God. The world hated Christ then because He testified that our deeds are evil. (John 7:7) Christ warned christians numerous times in the gospels of Matthew, Luke & John that the world would hate us because the world hated Him.  God demands holiness, God demands that His children crucify their flesh daily to the cross. But mankind loves their sin and loves their wickedness. Man really doesnt want to change, and doesnt want to face their sins, doesnt want to repent of filthiness and bow before a holy, holy, holy God and worship Him forever. Therefore the world hates Christ and is opposed to His kingdom.</p>
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<p>Paul wrote: For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame; who set their mind on earthly things. (Phillipians 3:18-19). Paul teaches also in Romans that anyone who has not received Christ as Savior and Lord is His enemy. And James wrote: You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. (James 4:4)</p>
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<p>Hating Christ, hating christians, and hostility towards the things of God is nothing new. Doesn't surprise me in the least. The hatred simply confirms the words of Christ.  I would plead with those who havent received Christ as Savior & Lord to take a few hours and prayerfully read through the gospel of John and book of Romans. Time's running out and I fear for those who will one day face God having rejected the forgiveness offered through His Son.</p>
 

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<p>Oh, you meant other religious flags. Heh...are you kidding? Here?<br><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mrscoby78</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/70173/local-city-council-votes-to-take-down-christian-flag-from-public-property#post_1946144"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I didn't know there was a Christian flag either.  My point is just that there are veterans of other faiths.  Yet, we only honor the Christian faith?</p>
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<p>And "the whole world hates Jesus" attitude is just fuel for more hate and intolerance.<br><br>
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<p>Do you agree that the removal of this flag constitutes an institutional hatred for Jesus?<br><br>
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<p>The idea of the world hating Christ Jesus is a couple thousands years old and far from new.  Here is the holy Son of God, who stepped down from His eternal throne, humbled Himself, was rejected, beaten, mocked, and nailed to a cross and died to reconcile sinful man back to Holy God. The world hated Christ then because He testified that our deeds are evil. (John 7:7) Christ warned christians numerous times in the gospels of Matthew, Luke & John that the world would hate us because the world hated Him.  God demands holiness, God demands that His children crucify their flesh daily to the cross. But mankind loves their sin and loves their wickedness. Man really doesnt want to change, and doesnt want to face their sins, doesnt want to repent of filthiness and bow before a holy, holy, holy God and worship Him forever. Therefore the world hates Christ and is opposed to His kingdom.</p>
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<p>Paul wrote: For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame; who set their mind on earthly things. (Phillipians 3:18-19). Paul teaches also in Romans that anyone who has not received Christ as Savior and Lord is His enemy. And James wrote: You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. (James 4:4)</p>
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<p>Hating Christ, hating christians, and hostility towards the things of God is nothing new. Doesn't surprise me in the least. The hatred simply confirms the words of Christ.  I would plead with those who havent received Christ as Savior & Lord to take a few hours and prayerfully read through the gospel of John and book of Romans. Time's running out and I fear for those who will one day face God having rejected the forgiveness offered through His Son.</p>
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The whole world doesn't hate Jesus.  In this country, we should abide by the separation of church and state.  If that was a Jewish flag, Christians would be throwing a shit fit.  But again, separation only applies to non-Christians.</p>
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<p>I can't stand the followers who take any opportunity to preach about how I'm going to hell - even though it hasn't nothing to do with the topic at hand.  I can't stand Sunday Christians who are far from Christ-like and use the term "Christian" as proof of being better than everyone else.</p>
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<p>I don't need to read Gospels any more than I need to read any other fairy tales. </p>
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<p>The idea of the world hating Christ Jesus is a couple thousands years old and far from new.  Here is the holy Son of God, who stepped down from His eternal throne, humbled Himself, was rejected, beaten, mocked, and nailed to a cross and died to reconcile sinful man back to Holy God. The world hated Christ then because He testified that our deeds are evil. (John 7:7) Christ warned christians numerous times in the gospels of Matthew, Luke & John that the world would hate us because the world hated Him.  God demands holiness, God demands that His children crucify their flesh daily to the cross. But mankind loves their sin and loves their wickedness. Man really doesnt want to change, and doesnt want to face their sins, doesnt want to repent of filthiness and bow before a holy, holy, holy God and worship Him forever. Therefore the world hates Christ and is opposed to His kingdom.</p>
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<p>Paul wrote: For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame; who set their mind on earthly things. (Phillipians 3:18-19). Paul teaches also in Romans that anyone who has not received Christ as Savior and Lord is His enemy. And James wrote: You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. (James 4:4)</p>
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<p>Hating Christ, hating christians, and hostility towards the things of God is nothing new. Doesn't surprise me in the least. The hatred simply confirms the words of Christ.  I would plead with those who havent received Christ as Savior & Lord to take a few hours and prayerfully read through the gospel of John and book of Romans. Time's running out and I fear for those who will one day face God having rejected the forgiveness offered through His Son.</p>
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<p> Amen.  Thank you for the post.<br><br>
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<p>The idea of the world hating Christ Jesus is a couple thousands years old and far from new.  Here is the holy Son of God, who stepped down from His eternal throne, humbled Himself, was rejected, beaten, mocked, and nailed to a cross and died to reconcile sinful man back to Holy God. The world hated Christ then because He testified that our deeds are evil. (John 7:7) Christ warned christians numerous times in the gospels of Matthew, Luke & John that the world would hate us because the world hated Him.  God demands holiness, God demands that His children crucify their flesh daily to the cross. But mankind loves their sin and loves their wickedness. Man really doesnt want to change, and doesnt want to face their sins, doesnt want to repent of filthiness and bow before a holy, holy, holy God and worship Him forever. Therefore the world hates Christ and is opposed to His kingdom.</p>
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<p>Paul wrote: For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ, whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame; who set their mind on earthly things. (Phillipians 3:18-19). Paul teaches also in Romans that anyone who has not received Christ as Savior and Lord is His enemy. And James wrote: You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. (James 4:4)</p>
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<p>Hating Christ, hating christians, and hostility towards the things of God is nothing new. Doesn't surprise me in the least. The hatred simply confirms the words of Christ.  I would plead with those who havent received Christ as Savior & Lord to take a few hours and prayerfully read through the gospel of John and book of Romans. Time's running out and I fear for those who will one day face God having rejected the forgiveness offered through His Son.</p>
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<p>I have a slightly different faith preference.....</p>
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<p><em>our Captain,</em></p>
<p><em>who art in space,</em></p>
<p><em>Picard be thy name!</em></p>
<p><em>Thy star system come</em></p>
<p><em>Thy warp speed be done.</em></p>
<p><em>On Earth as on the Enterprise</em>.</p>
<p><em>Give us this</em> <em>klingon,</em></p>
<p><em>and Data Unit,</em></p>
<p><em>and reassemble our shields,</em></p>
<p><em>as we fire upon those who fired upon us,</em></p>
<p><em>and lead us not into Red Alert,</em></p>
<p><em>but deliver us from the Borg!</em></p>
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<p><em>For the starship, and the power, and the galaxy are yours, now and forever.</em></p>
<p><em>Make it so!</em></p>
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<p><img alt="http://andrewferguson.net/wp-content/images/picardfinger.jpg" src="http://andrewferguson.net/wp-content/images/picardfinger.jpg" style=""></p>
 

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<p>  A lot of religious folk (of any denomination that believes in a heaven or a hell) like to tell me that I'm going to be in trouble on judgement day.</p>
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<p>  I have no fear of that day, for I know that I will be judged by God's standards, not theirs.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>rlemert</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/70173/local-city-council-votes-to-take-down-christian-flag-from-public-property#post_1946244"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>  A lot of religious folk (of any denomination that believes in a heaven or a hell) like to tell me that I'm going to be in trouble on judgement day.</p>
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<p>  I have no fear of that day, for I know that I will be judged by God's standards, not theirs.</p>
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i feel like a lot of these fundie folk will be pretty damn disappointed if/when this judgment day thing comes around <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/rolleyes.gif" title=""></p>
 

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<p>I am the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Thou shalt have no other monsters before Me. (Afterwards is OK; just use protection.) The only Monster who deserves capitalization is Me! Other monsters are false monsters, undeserving of capitalization.</p>
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Yeah, but where the hell's your flag?</p>
 
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