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Don't read this unless you want to learn something about Flounder - I am at a nexus point in my running career and value mu peers advice / insight.<br><br>
I am consumed by what ever I decide to do. I can not imagine tackling a task / job / sport - Anything but 100 all out. This leads to huge life balance issues -<br><br>
This question is for people that have made the transition from running / training to try and reach their personal genetic potential ... to running to just enjoy the sport. Racing and being satisfied with their finishing times, knowing that they are capable of much more if they put more time / effort into their training.<br><br>
I am in search of life balance - for 20 years now (3<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Cool">. During the last 20 years I have focused on many different sports, but only 1 at a time and when I decide that I do not want to spend so much time devoted to that sport I drop it completely and move on to the next challenge.<br><br>
Tennis<br>
Basketball<br>
racketball<br>
golf<br>
volleyball<br>
weight lifting<br>
Downhill skiing.<br>
Darts / Bowling<br><br>
There are all past passions that get almost 0 - play since moving on. I believe the Darts / Bowling Co-existed, becasue my real passion was drinking Booze.<br><br>
Maybe I never loved any of them and just did them for the challenge and when the challenge was no longer interesting, it had no appeal.<br><br>
With the exception of Basketball and Darts - In each endevor, I have acheived above average proficiency in a relatively short period of time, but when the improvement starts to be minimal it is time to move on.
 

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Hi Flounder! I have never been competitive, even when i played competitive sports in high school, so i am probably not the best person to give advice <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> But, you want to enjoy running? leave the watch at home. Stop logging miles. Go out and enjoy the scenery and the fall leaves. Maybe stop running races, or run races which are family friendly and bring your kids along and run with them.<br><br>
Also, it seems like your need to run a lot (which you run a ton!) is your way of balancing out your diet. (or cereal consumption to be more accurate <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy"> ) Try to work on the food part so you do not feel like you have to run because you ate XXXX.<br><br>
Up until about 8 months ago, i was all consumed with work and was working insane hours and really burning out. I had to set small boundaries for myself, one at a time and now i feel that i have a much more balanced life. It was very hard, but the hard work and transition and guilt was totally worth it. I feel sooooo much better.<br><br>
hth
 

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I am much like you in many ways. I tend to jump in with everything and expect only the best performance from myself at all times. It really causes me a lot of angst before races and I put a lot of pressure on myself, especially sports. Last Jan. my mom watched me and my fiancee run the Goofy endurance challenge and she said, "I wanna run a race." So, I made her a training program and made her do all but a few runs by herself. The few runs we did together, at first, were so sloooow and annoying to me, but then I began to realize that my mom was pushing herself just as hard as I do, she just wasn't going as fast. It has been really cool to see my mom really try to embrace something that I love (while other family members call me silly or crazy) and really put a lot of effort just to share it with me. I ran her 15k with her and it was easy for me like no race has ever been, but you know what? It was the most fun race I have ever had! I talked to people along the way and told them it was my mom's first race and how proud I was of her, I helped her push herself and when she crossed the finish line, it was a GREAT feeling. I still get antsy and expect the best out of myself when I do a "race" but when I pace someone younger or older or help others achieve their goals, I am able to slow down and feel proud for them. Maybe you could try that.
 

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Mikey-<br><br>
you need goals. Maybe reverse your thinking. How about this goal? 2:45 marathon on 60 mpw. max. It's a goal, it's attainable, and instead of getting all OCD about mileage, your actually trying to keep the miles in perspective. Giving you time to try something new without giving up something your great at. Heck, on 50-60 miles a week, you could do a few new things........swim, bike <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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Now you are gonna get the poor guy obsessed with triathalons <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy">
 

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Right now I am obsessed about work <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
Next Saturday about Mickey Mouse (8 days with Family)<br><br>
I've already decided that if I ever run again I will only run once a day - I may work out a second time, but is has to be something other than running.
 

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I ran all of 2006 without a watch or logging my miles. I ran some good races and overall had a great time.<br><br>
Any way I hope you find enjoyment in running or whatever else it is you decide to do. Unless it's drinking. Keep that in moderation. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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I obsess about running, but not about time goals or anything specific. I've made it mostly about people, and that has made it rewarding beyond compare.<br><br>
I'll echo the thing about getting rid of watches. I was talking to one of my mentors, Christel, who frequently gets top 10 OA in ultras. I was stunned to hear that she hasn't worn a watch or GPS or anything for the last couple of years - just goes out to run hard.<br><br>
So a couple of months ago I was in a trail 50 miler and starting to feel rotten. I'd set some relatively easy goals and was monitoring my progress off my pace chart and Garmin and it was becoming clear that even my unimpressive time goals were just not going to happen that day. I slid deeper and deeper into a funk about what a back of the pack loser I was.<br><br>
Then I remembered what Christel had said and ended up throwing Garmin, pace charts, and watch into a drop bag the next time I could. I ran the rest of the race just to put in a solid effort, to enjoy the incredible mountains around me, and to connect with the people. It ended up being one of the happiest days of the year for me.
 

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I hope if I can run again I will be a little more sensible, but I can not promise anything. Right now I continue to enjoy doing light to moderate amount of Aerobic Exercise each day. 40 - 80 minutes, some light weights. But without running so much everyday, I am stuck with an excessive amount of energy and lots of time <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
Fox-Runr - I do like your idea - but any cap that has 2 numbers in it would be an improvement. No Dr H yet, We go to Disney (FL) next week, I will see how I feel after that.<br><br>
Thanks for all the thoughts
 

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Mikey- Sounds like you're on the right path. Talking it out can't hurt. I hope you find your balance and make it back to training. I enjoy following your example of racing: all drive and determination. Its inspiring, to me.<br><br>
Have a great trip and hopefully you come home in with a renewed motivation.
 

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Roots - Thanks<br><br>
2 reasons I have to run again<br>
#1) I already have my plane ticket for Boston 2008<br>
#2) I want to run an ultra with Roots <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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Hey, I plan on running Boston too.<br><br>
Two birds with one stone? Do the double Boston with me. We run to the start and run back with the main race.<br><br><br><br>
(Just kidding! Not a balanced approach!)
 

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Hey Roots - I look forward to meeting you in Boston - Are you going stag? It would be fun to spectate the Womens' Olympic trials together?<br><br>
You are I are already destined for Umstead 2009 - You just didn't know it yet. What do you say?<br><br>
The Boston double is not likely.
 
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