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JFK 50 Mile<br>
November 17, 2007<br><br>
Executive Summary:<br><br>
Goal: 9:15-9:30, reach 9<br>
Result: Ultraslow 10:40:58<br><br>
The Really Boring Details:<br><br>
I was checking into the hotel Friday afternoon while Meri and her friend E attempted to sneak in without me seeing them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> . As we were checking in we bumped into altoids and SGH as they wandered downstairs. We finished checking in then I went down the street and picked up my packet and a JFK hat (hopefully I would earn the right to wear it). On my way back into the hotel I heard someone callout, “Hey dg1!” It was DEturtle and durt. The party was on. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy"><br><br>
We carpooled it to Ledo’s Pizza shortly after 5 P.M. and then pretty much commandeered the back room as we met up with roots and his party, meri’s friends AnthonyP and Bob from the Tetons, runsdangerously, and CTmarathoner to name a few. A good time was had by all and 4 hours later we had wished each other well and left reluctantly knowing that we all had an early appointment the next day.<br><br>
The morning dawned frosty and dry. The temperature at race start was hovering around 30 degrees with a forecast high in the mid forties, perfect. After the half mile hike and a couple of minutes of milling about we were off with no fanfare. I ran with meri and durt for the first half mile then we hit the big uphill to the AT and we walked. Fast. Meri set a good pace as I attempted to keep up with her without having to go into a slow run. We reached the top of the hill, ran a little ways to the AT and then walked again as we confronted the first big up on the AT. I pulled ahead of meri and durt at this point and tried to take advantage of this paved portion of the AT because I had been warned that it would be get harder. It got harder. After a lot of walking I finally reached the AT trail in its raw unpaved state. For a lousy trail runner like me, it was hard. You run on sharp spiky chunks of granite. It makes up the entire width of the trail. I rolled each ankle at least 3 or 4 times, hyper extended my left calf muscle, and banged my right shin at some point. I beat the hell out of my quads as I tried to make up for the slowness of the climbs as I blasted 13 minute downhill miles. At one point, while careening down a particularly gnarly section, I remember remarking to a lady that I was running with that I had never run a harder 13 minute mile. She said that she would have yelled at her kids if she ever saw them screwing around on the rocks like we were, “You’re gonna’ crack your head open.” <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy"> I got to the end of the AT at 3:17 into the race. Over three hours to go a little over 15 miles. Yikes. So much for nine hours….<br><br>
After resigning myself to my sub par performance on the AT I decided to finish the run in the best shape possible and use it as just another long training run. Now I got to experience the mind numbing 26 miles that is the towpath or as a few of the locals I was running with called it, the Cowpath. I run on towpath 5 days a week and thought I would be ready, but it was mind numbing. This is the first ultra I have run without my trusted and faithful crew (DW) and I really missed her ass kicking. I needed it. I just slogged through it. The only high point came when I got to see altoids and DEturtle. They cheered me on and told me I looked great (even though I know they were fibbing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> ). I stopped and chatted for a few minutes, time be damned. It was worth it because it lifted my spirits for several miles. The only other moment of note on the canal came when a guy with a sound system strapped to his bike rode along beside our group for a couple of miles and I got to run to the “Marine’s Hymn”. After a few more monotonous miles the Cowpath came to an end. I was never so glad to see pavement and hills in my life.<br><br>
The last 9 miles of the race were my fastest as I promised myself to end this as quickly as possible. After walking the initial steep uphill from the Cowpath I ran the rest of the race. I caught my second wind and started passing people which was a mental boost. Just before the 46 mile aid station I could feel my energy flagging. I had abandoned my usual ultra fare of Perpetuem, shot blocks, and pretzels and was drinking Gatorade, sucking on oranges, and eating bananas by the pound. At the M46 aid station I tried chicken broth for the first time. It tasted and felt like The Elixir of Life. I felt rejuvenated as I took off for the final four miles. I kicked it into gear and passed dozens of people on the way to the final aid station around mile 48ish. I drank some beef broth on the move as I had finally stopped lollygagging at the aid stations and finally gotten down to business. I passed other runners in groups of 4 or 5 at a time and would estimate I passed somewhere near a hundred runners in the last four miles of the race and I was not passed by a single runner the last 9 miles of the race. The final four miles were the fastest of the run at 9:36, 9:39, 9:38 and 9:35. I crossed the finish line at 10:40:58. A full hour and six minutes slower on what I thought was an easier course than the Canandaigua 50 a month before. The AT was the beginning of the end as I suck on trails and for me it was very technical. The towpath is indeed mind numbing and humbling with its 26 miles of extreme sameness. The final 9 mile stretch of road I thoroughly enjoyed but it was too little to late…<br><br>
It was a fantastic get together and I would do this race again just for the camaraderie. Next time (if there is a next time <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink"> ) I will be wearing trail shoes and will do a lot more trail running in preparation. A great trail runner can run fine on roads but a good road runner does not a good trail runner make.<br><br>
After having a really enjoyable breakfast with runsdangerously and CTmarathoner Sunday morning I hit the road for the 5 hour drive back to Syracuse with the memories of an enjoyable weekend to keep me company…
 

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I am cringing just thinking about that first part of the race! Ack!<br><br>
I know nothing about 50 milers, but sounds like you did well and managed to have a good time. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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Aren't those high spots in races like these awesome? I know sometimes I can be running 11 minute miles that absolutely feel like flying... like breaking the sound barrier.<br><br>
For someone with little trail experience, it sounds like you really did better than OK on the AT. My experience is that skill at technical trail comes very slowly and may take years to really develop.<br><br>
FWIW, I ran a race on Sat and went 34 miles in 10:18, so don't beat yourself up over your time.
 

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dg1!!! Good job on your second 50 miler. I really think the AT section makes or breaks your race. Both you and I lost too much time to ever make up during the rest of the race. Know you know why i said the towpath makes me want to poke my eyes out from boredom.<br><br>
The JFK 50 is really three races in one. The AT section is just ridiculous in places. I only saw a few bloody people this year. Never saw boombox man <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Sad"> must have been too slow!
 

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Ain't that the truth!<br><br>
I can't fathom starting a race on the AT. I've hiked along the AT in NH and it's nothing but rocks! My vision of this section is the same. Nicely done on your race!
 

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Congrats dg1!<br>
You ultra trail sort of folks make me feel like the wimp that I am <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/notworthy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="notworthy"><br>
Your description of that AT section had me squirming in my seat! To finish in such a flourish like you did must be a real confidence builder for your next long race.<br>
WTG<br>
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You still haven't listened to me about these 50 milers and using a car, have you? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Cool"><br><br>
Great job though. That's a lot of miles to cover.
 

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We weren't fibbing! You looked much better than you felt. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy"><br><br>
Bird crap and all. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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I'm never sure why certain things strike me as being inspirational or moving. Somehow your missing your DW struck a chord in me. 50 miles is a looong run, and even though you didn't reach your goal you pulled it off with running a smart last 2/3rds. Congratulations!
 

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Congrats dg1 ! 50 miles is .... well ... 50miles !! Yer doing great at this ultra-thang!<br>
I have wondered what the JFK event was like . . . it seems so BIG.<br><br>
Whatchya got coming up next ??
 

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Congrats, dg1!<br><br>
First off, it was a pleasure to meet you. Sorry I could not find you afterwards to hoise a beverage.<br><br>
You did great with what day offered you. I've only done a couple 50s, including a DNF at last year's JFK, but its safe to say that at this distance anything can happen. It often does.<br><br>
It says a lot about your talent that you were able to recognize what the day had to offer, and that you made the best of it. Nice running in the final miles.<br><br>
BTW, 3:17 is not a bad time coming off the AT.<br><br>
Hope you recover and regroup well. Rest up - 2008 bodes well for a banner year. I hope our paths cross once again, next time with more running (on my part) and more beer!
 

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It was great to meet you!!! You did look great at 27.1, even though you weren't feeling it. You also looked strong at the finish... Hope i look that good after 50 miles!
 

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Thanks all!<br><br><b>hippo</b> I don't have years to improve as a trail runner, I'm already old.<br><br><b>meri</b> the boombox guy was great he kept riding back and forth and it really did make me pick up the pace as I tried to run to the beat of the music.<br><br><b>scratch</b>, use a car? And miss out on all the fun?<br><br><b>durt</b> sorry to hear about your leg. Get some rest and get healed up. There's this 100 miler I heard that you're entered in...<br><br><b>altoids</b>, HA! I forgot all about that. My wife yelled at me last night when she was doing the laundry. "You've got to let me know if you have a stain on your stuff so I can pretreat it! What is this spot on the back of your shirt?????" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Very Happy"> Thanks for being on the towpath and at the finish, it was a great boost to see a friendly familiar face.<br><br><b>Grizzly</b> not having my DW there definitely impacted my race in a negative way. No doubt... I missed her tough love and ass kicking to keep me focused.<br><br><b>rNYt</b> I'm going to be chilling for a while. Got a short trail run in the middle of December, it's a fun run, and then hopefully a Slug event the first week of January. How about you? Have you heard from TOB?<br><br><b>roots</b> it was great to meet you also. One of these days we have got to get a run in...<br><br><b>DEturtle</b> thanks for being out there on the towpath and at the finish! Hopefully see you in the not to distant future at the Slug.
 

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Congrats on finishing the 50 miler. Bummer that you didn't meet your time goal, but the AT technical section sounds tough. If I ever get to the point of running ultras, the technical trails on many scare me. Hope your trail running prep (for the future) goes well.
 

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Got to spend a little time w/ TOB @ Presque Isle, dg. It was fun <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br>
Are ya doin' the Pancake Trail Run thingy in Dec @ Highland ?
 

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Thats the one <b>rNYt</b>. Last Chance Trail Run, December 15th. Usually snowy, always muddy. Run slow then consume mass quantities. You going to be there??<br><br>
Thanks <b>wanderingoutlaw</b> technical trails askeer me too. I was very tentative and overly cautious probably. But as I age my sense of self preservation has increased...
 

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I have already brought you name up to the official entry council and you have been deemed worthy trying for slugdom. Just drop A note to <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> to make sure your name is added to the entry list. Looking forward to seeing you there!
 

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Wicked! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/notworthy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="notworthy">
 
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