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OK, my ITB doesn't like me. I ran 4 miles yesterday and at about 3.2 the pain intensified as if someone was sticking a knife in my knee. That subsided, only lasted a second, but struck again at least twice before the run was finished. Before that and between incidents it was just a nagging ache.<br><br>
After the run I was going up and down some stairs more than once and I must have stepped just right on the way down, because the sharp pain struck again. I think it's related to twisting my knee as I land on my foot, but I don't know which way I'm twisting to make it happen, so I'm not sure how to avoid it.<br><br>
I've been rolling and stretching. The rolling doesn't hurt anymore. I don't know if I'm not doing it correctly, or if I've strayed off the correct spot or what. It used to hurt when I first started using the roller, and I noticed improvement afterwards, but now, I don't really notice any significant pain during use or improvement after using the roller. I have also been icing my knee after runs and using advil when I remember, usually before bed.<br><br>
I have found a list of local ART providers and I'm going to call one or two who practice close to my home or work, whichever is more convenient, and make an appointment to see if this will help me. Also, if the ART provider has some suggestions on my rolling form that she is willing to share, that would be a plus.<br><br>
I'll post back about the results. I hope there's something to the ART raving I've been reading <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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<img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif"> indeed. I'm optimistic, but that's the way I am anyway. Plus, it should be interesting.
 

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Ouch! Your ITB has been cranky for a while now, so it's great you're going to explore improving the condition. I think you'll have success with ART. Let us know how it goes.
 

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Well, the ball is rolling and the Doc can set up a PT appt for me. I don't know when that is going to happen...
 

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I hope it works for you!<br><br>
I saw my ART guy this morning and he told me that my feet are great now, and I concur! My long term AT is all but gone.<br><br>
I hope you have good luck with yours! I love my guy! <img alt="icon_colors.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/icon_colors.gif">
 

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Thanks, sierra! I have positive thoughts about it, my Dr.'s receptionist/assistant didn't know what ART is, but thought the Dr. might know. I'm trying to get a referral so I can do the co-pay thing, rather than pay for the whole thing. But I'll do that if I have to. It's that important to me.
 

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I hope you can find someone who does it where you are. I live in a city of almost 300,000. I know thats small in the scheme of things, but there was NO ONE here who did it. I have to drive 30 miles away to a small town to find someone.<br><br>
Hope you can do it with just a copay, otherwise it is pricey, or at least it would have been for me. But overall, I still would have done it, considering the results I have had!<br><br>
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sierra, I know what you mean. I live on the fridge of two HUGE urban sprawl communities (Miami-Dade and Palm Beach) and the closest ART therapist to me is over 20 miles away. And with our traffic that could mean an hour drive at the wrong time of day!<br><br>
Ginger, I've been considering ART, too. I can run now with my knee band, but I know I'm not 100%. I'll be anxiously awaying your future posts.
 

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If you cannot find an ART person near you, try finding a Myofascial Release therapist in your area, it is very similar, from what i understand, and what i get for my PF and ITB.<br><a href="http://www.myofascialrelease.com" target="_blank">www.myofascialrelease.com</a> Call the Paoli clinic and they will give you people in your area.
 

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<a href="http://www.activereleasetechniques.com" target="_blank">www.activereleasetechniques.com</a> has a search for providers page. I found a bunch near where I live and where I work. Not in the town where I live, but there's nothing in the town where I live. I think the total population is just under 3000 here <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
See if that website helps you find somewhere near you. I'll keep you posted on what happens.
 

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Thats the site I found my guy on. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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I battle ITBS as well...I've managed to go from not being able to run a mile, to doing 13, but it always seems to be in the background waiting to haunt me. I get the occasional stab and it also doesn't feel right some days. I've tried it all...and of everything I have done, I do believe the ART is the most effective....Ibuprofen although maybe controversial, also helps considerably.<br><br>
I'm hoping to be able to push past the 13 soon...I've been fighting it for 10 months now.
 

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My knee has been bothering me since Sunday. I think that sand run did me in. Thanks for posting that link to that searchable list of ART-proficient providers. I found a chiro close to where I live that I may contact today.<br><br>
Also wanted to add that sitting and rolling my hip over a tennis ball helps for short-term relief.
 

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Hmmm....what other stretches are you guys doing for this? My PT told me yesterday, which I suspected, that in addition to the torn ACL (and, I just discovered from the written report, a partially torn LCL as well) that my ITB was aggravated. He's calling it a severe strain, I could tell from the amount of pain I was having on the side of my knee that it was all tightened up. I'm going to get the foam roller, I told him you guys use it and he said I could before surgery, but not for a while after.<br><br>
What other stretches or things do you do on your own for it?
 

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I do what Haha does with the tennis ball, which seems to help more than the roller sometimes. I actually have been having much less trouble with it lately and I suppose I'm doing something right. Now I have to deal with my pulled quad, on the same leg, but that seems to be healing up. However, I think it is causing me to adjust my stride in an unusual way since my hip has a low-level ache occasionally. I'm keeping things stretched out as much as possible.<br><br>
Some people use the pidgeon post from yoga to help stretch the ITB. I believe there are sites out there which will show you how it's done. You might want to be careful of trying it though, since you have a knee issue that may be aggravated by that.
 

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Interesting. Of course, it's the other leg, but both probably have the same kind of thing going on with the knee.
 
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