[rojewski]

Hey There everyone,<br><br>
I want to do Ice Age next year but, I can't seem to find the dates of the race. My best guess is that it's Mothers Day weekend? Am I right? When does registration normally open and should I register as early as possible? I'm looking at doing the 50 miler. What should I expect? Is this tougher than DWD or not as crazy? I have went to the website from last year but, it doesn't mention anything for next year yet. I guess I'm thinking a little far ahead.<br><br>
Thanks everyone!

 

[Tim]

Sorry. I just saw this. The date is May 10, 2008.<br><br>
Also on that date is <a href="http://www.dwdgnawbone.com/" target="_blank">Dances with Dirt Gnaw Bone</a>.<br><br><br>
Where in SE Mich are you? I'm in Ann Arbor.

 

[divaleh]

Oooh, I'm all for the Dances with Dirt Ultra - I went to IU and I never pass up an opportunity to head back to that neck of the woods...

 

[Tim]

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I will be down there as a volunteer. Last year I helped mark the course. It's a lot of fun.

 

[divaleh]

I'll probably need to find a relay team to do it with, as I'm just now embarking into Ultra and Trail - Land.

 

[Tim]

We should put together a team from kickrunners. I won't be on it but I would be willing to start a thread trying to put the team together if you are not up for it. I really want to volunteer again rather the run. That's my way of giving back.

 

[rojewski]

Orange Shorts, I live west of Howell. The Potto is basically in my back yard! About a 30 min drive from my house. I started trail running this past summer and absolutely love every minute of it! I did DWD as my first ultra this past Sept. I have also paced a couple of friends a couple of times at Mochican. I'm not doing Gnaw Bone because I have heard so many great things about Ice Age. This will be my first 50 miler. Are you north of A2? I'm currently training for the Goofy Challenge in Jan after that it's back to hitting the trails. I ran the yellow loop at Island Lake last Saturday as a short recovery run.

 

[Tim]

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I am in A2. I seem to remember you now. At least I remember talking with someone who ran DwD as their first ultra. I did the relay.<br><br>
If you are interested I send out a weekly email with upcoming runs, races and other (mostly) trail related events. I can add you to the list. PM me with your email address if interested.<br><br>
Ice Age is great. You will love it.<br><br>
Good luck with the Goofy Challenge.

 

[Flounder]

I am also seriously considering ice age 2008. I hear it is a great party!<br><br>
I did Glacial (WI) OCT 06 which is the lower key - some say a little tougher of the WI 50s. I had nothing but flat road marathon training and although I finished in a respectible time it beat me up real bad.<br><br>
This time I will actually do some trail and ultra training along with marathon training - Although it migh just be once a week at High Cliff or Ice Age (Greenbush), I think it will help a lot.<br><br>
As a mere novice to trail running - What form of cross training do you think is the best? I was considering stairclimber and treadmill walking with 8-12% incline.

 

[rojewski]

Flounder,<br><br>
I'm new at this but have had some great advice from a few friends. I'm very lucky to have a trail that I run that is hilly. I have found that I get my best hill workouts from that trail. I've been doing hill repeats on the treadmill at a 9.5 incline and still running (managing my heart rate to not go over 85%) I do this once a week. I'm currently doing 6 repeats at a time. I'm one that has better resopnse by being outside. I was also wondering what I could change up to get more prepared.

 

[Tim]

Stairclimber and treadmill with the incline is perfect. I used the threadmill to prepare me for the climbs at Western States.<br><br>
You should also think about strength training.<br><br>
Hopefully merigayle chimes in with some other good cross training ideas.

 

[Flounder]

rojewski - I am not blessed with trails nearby (30 minutes to closest) (15 minutes to a good paved hill) - How long are your TM hill repeats?<br><br>
I also am doing-<br><br>
Core Work<br><br>
Weight Training - Mostly upper body + Groin Abduction and flexation + Lunges<br><br>
I have promised myself to only run 1x a day, so I also do Arc Trainer and Eliptical for the 2nd work outs.<br><br>
I have room for 2-4 more leg weight exercises and a YMCA with a lot of equipment - So I am all ears.

 

[rojewski]

Currently I'm doing 3 min hill climb, 2 mins recovery (getting my HR back down to 70%) flat. I really need to add in strength training to my routine. I have also done some spinning and I have thought that is a good leg workout.

 

[Flounder]

Most my core / weighligting / leg strength was missing until 2 weeks ago - But after 12 weeks off with Hip Flexor / Groin issues - I could not ignore what I needed to do.

 

[merigayle]

real life practice is the best. Second best would be stairstepper and fast walking (at least 4mph) on the TM at an incline. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">

 

[Flounder]

I have been doing either 4.0 MPH @ 12% or 4.4-4.6 MPH @ 8%<br><br>
I will only be able to get 1 time per week on real trails, but they are very technical - So Its all good

 

[merigayle]

one time a week is definitely sufficient. I treadmill every day but Sunday and maybe Monday. As long as you are on the trails once a week or every other week you should be fine.