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<p>Can anyone recommend a headlamp for running in the dark?  I've got my eye on the <span id="user_btAsinTitle">Petzl E93 PS Tikka 2 Headlamp</span> but I was wondering if there were any running-specific recommendations or models folks have had good luck with?</p>
 

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<p>I have one, but I have no idea what kind it is.  Tom picked it up at REI for me.  It has a constant setting as well as two blinky settings.</p>
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<p>ETA:  Mine is a BlackDiamond of some kind.  I think it's plenty bright, but it does seem to go through batteries (2 AAA) quickly.</p>
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<p>For visibility, I really like:</p>
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<p>the xinglet by amphipod</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amphipod.com/440-448/440.html" target="_blank">http://www.amphipod.com/440-448/440.html</a></p>
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<p>the firefly supernova from road id</p>
<p><a href="http://www.roadid.com/Common/LearnMore.aspx?PID=12" target="_blank">http://www.roadid.com/Common/LearnMore.aspx?PID=12</a></p>
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<p>I actually use a clear firefly on steady on the front of my xinglet and a red firefly on blinking on the back.  I use this most often when I walk the dogs in the dark of winter, but it works well for running, too.</p>
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<p>BTW, the xinglet can be adjusted to fit each of my 60 lb dogs very well.  Their head goes through the top and the belt is fastened around their body, between their front and hind legs.  They need to be visible in the dark, too!</p>
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<p><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.kickrunners.com/content/type/61/id/56646/width/1000/height/800/flags/" target="_blank"><img alt="kaya-amphipod.jpg" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="13900" data-type="61" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/content/type/61/id/13900/width/750/height/500" style="; width: 750px; height: 500px"></a></p>
 

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<p>I was really happy with my old Tikka until it got water inside and died.  Don't know if the new ones resolved that issue.  I wore it in the rain many, many times, so it's not like it was really fragile or anything.</p>
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<p>I have a Princeton Tech something-or-other now.  It's a little too heavy and is a serious battery hog.</p>
 

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<p>Monica got me a petzle one from REI last year. I love it. I would probably get one that is a little brighter, but this one works great.. I'll find out which model</p>
 

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<p>I've had a basic Petzl Tikka -- with similar functionality to the E93 thing -- for several years now. No complaints. It's not terribly bright. They advertised it as creating something like a pool of moonlight in your path, and that's a pretty good description. For me, that's all I want in a running light, so I like it.</p>
 

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well, I can definitely see why you have no concerns about running in the dark.   sweet doggie!<br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>cak73</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69991/headlamp-for-running-in-the-dark#post_1942958"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I have one, but I have no idea what kind it is.  Tom picked it up at REI for me.  It has a constant setting as well as two blinky settings.</p>
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<p>For visibility, I really like:</p>
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<p>the xinglet by amphipod</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amphipod.com/440-448/440.html" target="_blank">http://www.amphipod.com/440-448/440.html</a></p>
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<p>the firefly supernova from road id</p>
<p><a href="http://www.roadid.com/Common/LearnMore.aspx?PID=12" target="_blank">http://www.roadid.com/Common/LearnMore.aspx?PID=12</a></p>
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<p>I actually use a clear firefly on steady on the front of my xinglet and a red firefly on blinking on the back.  I use this most often when I walk the dogs in the dark of winter, but it works well for running, too.</p>
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<p>BTW, the xinglet can be adjusted to fit each of my 60 lb dogs very well.  Their head goes through the top and the belt is fastened around their body, between their front and hind legs.  They need to be visible in the dark, too!</p>
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<p><a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.kickrunners.com/content/type/61/id/56646/width/1000/height/800/flags/" target="_blank"><img alt="kaya-amphipod.jpg" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="13900" data-type="61" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/content/type/61/id/13900/width/750/height/500" style="; width: 750px; height: 500px"></a></p>
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<p>Huh... I never thought about using a light. Doesn't that screw with your vision too bad? I mean, except where the lamp is you'd be blind... I like being able to see all around, even if not super great. Then again, I guess I do OK seeing with limited light. DW cannot see anything even where there is good moonlight so maybe everyone is different. Also, a lot of the places I run at night have "some" ambient light.</p>
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<p>I guess if I went down this path, I'd get a RED LED light <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>not a</strong></span> white light. That way you can see (I'm a private pilot and that's what we use to read maps - because your eyes do not need to adjust)</p>
 

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<p>Ron -</p>
<p>The only thing that would worry me about a RED light on the front of my body (head, hat, whatever) is that any drivers on the road are conditioned to seeing red as a taillight, and white as a headlight.</p>
<p>I'd want them to know that they were facing me, not following me.</p>
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<p>Plus, I need the brighter white light to show me where the road debris is.....although the other morning it didn't make that much of a difference.  (*shrug*)</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>fox-runr</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69991/headlamp-for-running-in-the-dark#post_1943000"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>well, I can definitely see why you have no concerns about running in the dark.   sweet doggie!<br>
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She's very sweet, but not really a runner.  I took her out once for an out-and-back and it was definitely a negative split (once she knew we were heading home)!  I got the feeling she didn't really enjoy it.  Funny enough, I think our couch potato dog might like running...or it's just that he really enjoys running only a few hundred yards with me.</p>
 

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<p>I guess if I went down this path, I'd get a RED LED light <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>not a</strong></span> white light. That way you can see (I'm a private pilot and that's what we use to read maps - because your eyes do not need to adjust)</p>
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Don't do that!  As Stitch says, red means the person is running away from you.  Maybe not a problem for drivers, but I know I've nearly hit at least one reverse-light runner on my bike.</p>
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<p>You'd be surprised how well you can see with a decent LED headlamp.  Frankly, I'm amazed you don't have one already - don't you ever run at night??</p>
 

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<p>I have the <a href="http://www.petzl.com/en/outdoor/headlamps/hybrid-myo" target="_blank">Petzl MYO</a> which I absolutely love.  I wear it when running early morning or late at night, and also strap it onto my bike helmet when I have an early morning ride to do.  It has four different light settings (high, medium, low, blinking) and you can use the diffuser to spread the light out or not use it and have more of a spot light.  I think it is a bit morre versatile than the Tikka, but I am not positive about that.</p>
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<p>Good luck!</p>
 

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<p>I run in the dark (usually predawn) all the time and I never use a light. I have blinky lights all over me... ankles and butt and got some new ones for arms I need to try out, but I never use a headlamp because visibility hasn't even been a problem for me.</p>
 

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<p>@Ron, it's a requirement for the Reach The Beach Relay to have a headlamp.  I know that for one of my legs I'll be out in farm country around midnight!</p>
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<p>It sounds like Petzl is the winner.  Thanks for the replies everyone!</p>
 

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<p>I just purchased a black diamond sprinter based on some forum reviews, and so far it seems quite nice.  It is rechargeable, which was a must for me:</p>
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<p>it seemed like the more reflective gear and lights I ran with at night, the more it confused drivers.   I actually started running without anything after i had a car swerve at me and I looked over to see that the car had actually seen the guy on the other side of the road that was all in black......of course, this scared the crap out of me doubly, because i never heard or saw the other runner!!!  (and I wasn't wearing headphones).</p>
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<p>after reading this discussion, sounds like a headlamp for front and reflective gear and blinking lights on the back is best...unless i want to be stealth.  I think it's been a few years since I ran at night alone.  I got scared once about a van following me.  I met my friends at 6:00 and told them about it, and one of them said "you mean that van?"  me: "ummm, yeah"  (as the van tosses some sundays to the curb)  :(<br><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>pcsronbo</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69991/headlamp-for-running-in-the-dark#post_1943151"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I run in the dark (usually predawn) all the time and I never use a light. I have blinky lights all over me... ankles and butt and got some new ones for arms I need to try out, but I never use a headlamp because visibility hasn't even been a problem for me.</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Dougie Fresh</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69991/headlamp-for-running-in-the-dark#post_1943197"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>@Ron, it's a requirement for the Reach The Beach Relay to have a headlamp.  I know that for one of my legs I'll be out in farm country around midnight!</p>
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<p>It sounds like Petzl is the winner.  Thanks for the replies everyone!</p>
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If you get one, please report back, if even in the daily bread thread, on how you like it. I'll need a light too for Stone Cat 50. So since the Petzl seems like a solid choice, I'll go with it if you like it. Though I like the idea of a rechargable.</p>
 

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<p>An interesting discussion...and a bit of a hijack.</p>
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<p>I run in the early morning a lot, and I used to be really diligent about reflective gear, but have found that it doesn't seem to make a difference (at least where I live). I tend to just stay on the sidewalk unless I'm in my own neighborhood, and be super, super cautious when crossing at busy streets. I have a bunch of blinky lights and reflective stuff for my dog, too, but don't even use that anymore.</p>
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<p>I'll be curious to hear if you like the headlamp...it may inspire me to get one!</p>
 

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<p>I have the Petzl Tikka (not sure what model), and very happy with it. I only used it last winter, when there was snow on the ground, so I don't trip or slip on something. The light was strong enough (and had several levels). I used it maybe 5-6 times, and didn't have to change batteries.</p>
 
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