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Not sure if I need to ask about this here or in the gym section.<br><br>
A little history is in order. I started running in Aug '05. Went from a couch potato to joining TNT and running a marathon in January of 06. Developed a case of ITBS in my left knee a month before the marathon. Took the last month off of training. Ran the marathon up to mile 15 when my ITBS reared its head and forced me to walk the remaining 11 miles ( talk about a long walk ) Took some time off after the marathon, still had pain. Went through physical therapy for 3 months. Started running again in May 06 and began training for the San Jose HM in Oct. Ran it with little to no problems with the ITBS. Still not having much base built up I started training for the Flying Pig. Didnt run nearly enough miles in training but PRed by 7 minutes. Since the Pig I have been having on again off again pain in my right groin and now in my lower right back just above the waist line, to the right of my spine. Thinking back before the Pig it seemed to me like I was walkng a bit off. My right foot seemed to hit harder than the left.<br><br>
What I am wondering is, two things<br><br>
1. Due to all the problems with my left knee ITBS, is that why my right side is screwed up now?<br><br>
2. I was thinking of taking a month of of running. Focusing on stretching ( which I not very consistent with currently ) strength training, road biking and swimming. By not pounding the crap of ouf myself for a month running, but doing everything else will that allow my groin/back to heal and not kill my aerobic level?<br><br>
Thoughts? Suggestions<br><br>
And no I havent been to a sports med doc yet. Went to my PCP and was told I have tight quad/flexor and bursa? possibly<br><br>
Thanks in advance
 

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As an old friend of back pain and sciatic issues, I tend to leans towards that as the trouble. How does this relate to you? Well, my chiro explained to me that in addition to a pinched nerve (from a slipped or ruptured disc) causing sciatica, tight hip muscles can too. The sciatic nerve runs right through the big old muscles in your hip. I started going for massages the focused on my hips, hammys and quads, loosened up the whole area. It was like night and day, Iwould literally walk out and mylegs would feel amazing. I know it may not be exactly the area you are describing but it is worth a shot. I find that usually when I describe a pain, the origin of it is somewhere else totally.<br><br>
I also do think tha if you ITB issues were on your left side and now you have right side pain, you very well could have altered your gait to help the ITB pain and caused somethng else. Ever consider having your local running store analyze your gait?<br><br>
Totally not an expert but hope I at least gave you some help. Wish I could be of more help but have to stop short of offering to massage the groin for ya myself!!!!<img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

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DUDE!!!!! how far are you from Sedona? Seriously. <a href="http://www.myofascialrelease.com" target="_blank">www.myofascialrelease.com</a><br>
Their main clinic is in my area and i work with one of their best therapists in my office.
 

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Frankie,<br>
The ART practitioner I went to discovered a bunch of scar tissue in my left hip, and nasty trigger points in my lower left back in the spot you're describing (I think) on your right. I've had horrible back pain in that spot a few times. What did I go to ART for? ITBS on the right side.<br><br>
The practitioner explained that the junk on the left side (especially the hip) was affecting my stride, and since I didn't get full rotation, put even more strain on the right ITB. So it's likely that your left ITBS and right pains are related. And likely that you have an underlying issue that's caused all of it.<br><br>
I got a lot of benefit out of the few ART appointments I went to, just need to look for a new practitioner. And stretching is great. He sent me an email with some really good stretches for ITBS and getting better rotation in the hip joint. If you want to PM me with your email address, I'll send them to you later.<br><br>
(P.S.: this is the perfect spot for this thread.)
 

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Um what is ART? I am in search of a new massage therapist but if perhaps I need to look for a new specialty would love to hear about it. I am going to click on merigayle's link tol ook into that!!
 

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<b>Beaker</b> ART= Applied Release Techniques. More of a specialized field of massage. Concentrating more on the breaking up of muscle knots, scar tissue etc. It definately helps, especially in my case.
 

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<b>Frankie</b> - as far as 1. it could be any number of things, but perhaps it was something that was always there but wasn't as huge an issue as compared to another problematical area. Once you got the main problematical area cleared up, this one is now the predominant one.<br><br>
For me, my right-side ITB was always the issue. Perhaps by focusing all attention on my right-side ITB, it grew more ready to handle stresses than the left side ITB over time, which led to my first-ever left-side flare up in April<br><br>
As far as 2. it might be worth a shot. I've found that being in tri-training mode while in ITBS recovery mode and keeping it up has made my running feel less demanding. The massage therapist I visit now said that's not surprising, because I'm not re-using the same muscle groups over and over again.<br><br>
Hey <b>Beaker</b>, this <a href="http://www.activereleasetechniques.com/" target="_blank">ART website</a> will give you more details about the method.<br><br>
I'll vouch for it myself. It essentially took only one hour of ART to get my really screwed-up left-ITB back to normal; it flared up with ITBS during an April trail run and was exacerbated severely when I ran the Flying Pig HM 3 weeks later.<br><br>
He started work on my right shoulder this week, which is wayyy screwed up (I have to take care in throwing things like baseballs real hard or I'll dislocate it; I also partially tore a front muscle shoulder ligament doing push-ups a few years back). After only 15 minutes of the stuff, it feels way better than it has since I can't remember when.
 

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I think ART and MFR are very similar. I think the MFR clinic is one of the top places in the WORLD for body work and pain management. It should all be covered with a script for PT. I am partial to MFR, because of my experience with MFR and my own personal biased against a lot of chiropractors (not all, i go to one a couple times a year, but i have heard horror stories from patients of mine).
 

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Frankie-- not sure if biking as a way to avoid ITB issues is compatible. Seems alot of bikers have that issue but for different reasons. The lack of range of motion of the pedaling causes very weak abductor/adductor.<br><br>
I've been amazed at the range that the IT can cause issues. My friend had his biomechanics analyzed and it was determined that his ankle issues were relieved by releasing his IT. His doctor was busy treating the ankle.
 
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