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<a href="http://www8.garmin.com/ces/forerunner/index.html" target="_blank">http://www8.garmin.com/ces/forerunner/index.html</a><br><a href="http://gizmodo.com/340267/garmin-forerunner-405-watch-is-packed-with-awesome-features-for-healthy-types" target="_blank">http://gizmodo.com/340267/garmin-for...-healthy-types</a><br><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/garmins-new-forerunner-405-puts-the-watch-back-in-gps-watch/" target="_blank">http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/g...-in-gps-watch/</a>
 

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by next Christmas, I will have had my 305 for 2 years... so I'll be ready for an upgrade <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
Christmas 2004 - Garmin 201<br>
Christmas 2006 - Garmin 305<br>
Christmas 2008 - Garmin 405<br><br>
Logical progression <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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Watching the video on engadget though, I think even the guy from Garmin makes it look awkward. I really wish they would team up with Timex - who I think really has a good handle on the human factors for a running watch - like a big button you can mash when you are doing intervals and the shake to turn the light on thingy.<br><br>
I like my Garmin, I just wish it was more usable.<br><br>
Like why does their software stink so bad? Why can't I use my convenient computer interface to setup the screen layouts?<br><br>
The 405 does look nice though.
 

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Tom, are you using a Mac?
 

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Hey, the 305 still rocks. Yes, it's large, but it doesn't seem to bother me (accept in the last marathon where I had to take it off and carry it because my wrist was getting sore; previous 2 marathons no problem), but the good part of the 305 is the display. 3 displays that you can set up with up to 4 data fields on each. That's a ton of information.
 

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Gotta side with Tim on this one. I see no substantive advantage to the 405 other than thinness and wireless connectivity. USB is just fine and I LOVE the customizeable screens on the 305.<br><br>
I highly recommend <a href="http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/" target="_blank">Sporttracks software</a> for any of you Garmin users still trudging through those awful crude maps in Garmin TC. I've also found Sporttracks to have much more accurate elevation numbers and more conservative calorie counts....in addition to the bazillion other cool features. Apparently there are lots of user created plugins which I have not even tried yet.
 

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JohnnyB,<br><br>
I loaded Sporttracks when I got my Garmin earlier this year. At first, I was using Sporttracks, Garmin TC, Motionbased, and my running log (manual entry) Then I realized that this was nuts. So, I cut back to just Garmin TC, and my running log, motionbased only when I wanted a google map of my route or something.<br><br>
Then, this week, Garmin TC, puked up my user file, and dumped a ton of my data. I wasn't too upset since it's all in my log. But, now might be a time for me to try sporttracks again and see how I like it.
 

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not to hiijack and make this to sporttracks thread - but is sporttracks available for the Mac?<br><br>
I've been just manually entering my data in Running Ahead.<br><br>
I used to use MotionBased and my log, but that was just cumbersome. I do like some of the data that Motionbased gave me though - and it worked with Mac.
 
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