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<p>I think this is ignorant and that those doing this want Americans to be in danger so they can say 'they didn't know' and that it's the violent islamists doing  ... when we all know that they are setting it in motion with no concern for who gets hurt in order to send their religiously extreme message  ... accomplice to violence/murder is what I think.</p>
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<p>what do you think of this?</p>
 

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<p>well if they're so darn dangerous, it's a good thing we're not doing anything to provoke them! <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif" title=""></p>
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<p>and yet the "oh noes, MOSLIMS!" are more 'dangerous' than the christians</p>
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<p>Here's the problem--to you and me, the quran is just another book.  Even a bible is just another book.  Yes, it's God's word.  But, Christians use their bible.  We tote 'em around.  We write in 'em.  Heck, we'll toss it on the floor.  My "every day" bible is bright green with hot pink flowers.  Hubby refers to it as my filing cabinet because of all the papers stuffed in it. </p>
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<p>To a Muslim, the quran is a holy book.  As in their god resides in it.  It is to be treated with respect.  You would never write in it, haul it around, put it anywhere but a sacred place.  When witnessing to a Muslim, you would never use your "everyday" bible, you would use one that is "for show" (leather, gold trimmed, the works). </p>
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<p>To burn the quran is the highest level of disrespect.  They will return evil for evil.</p>
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<p>Do I agree with Muslims--peace loving or extremist?  NO WAY!  But burning their holy book is no way to treat them.</p>
 

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<p>how can I ask people to respect my religion if I won't respect theirs?</p>
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<p>people are nutty.  it's a shame that someone completely unrelated to this craziness will probably end up paying the price for a bunch of zealots making a "statement".</p>
 

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<p>I personally have a problem burning any book. (as gumbee also said). But, ya know, this is America, right? You can burn whatever you want - you can express yourself however you'd like. And, if these 'nuts' in Florida wish to express their 'disdain' or 'support' or 'ignorance' by burning the Quoran, then more power to them. How can we 'support' other groups for their protests against things many in the country find disrespectful (the burning of the American Flag, for instance) yet, oppose others who are expressing the very same right of 'thought/freedom/expression'?</p>
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<p>I dunno - if we tell these people to not exercise their freedom of expression or protest because we might upset the 'terrorists' - well, then I guess the terrorists win?</p>
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<p>Just like the Muslims have the legal right to build a mosque at Ground Zero, I guess this Florida preacher has the legal right to burn Korans. </p>
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<p>But both things are just senseless acts that will do nothing but piss off other people.  The last thing that Muslim-U.S. relations needs right now is another reason to be pissed off at each other.  Both sides outta back down, for the sake of public relations.  Doing something "wrong" to prove that somebody else is intolerant doesn't help anything...</p>
 

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Shouldn't that be Middle East-U.S. realations?<br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>GatorBob</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69986/florida-church-planning-to-burn-at-least-200-quran-koran-on-sept-11th#post_1943035"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><p>...The last thing that Muslim-U.S. relations needs right now is another reason to be pissed off at each other.  Both sides outta back down, for the sake of public relations.  Doing something "wrong" to prove that somebody else is intolerant doesn't help anything...</p>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>GatorBob</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69986/florida-church-planning-to-burn-at-least-200-quran-koran-on-sept-11th#post_1943035"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>Just like the Muslims have the legal right to build a mosque at Ground Zero, I guess this Florida preacher has the legal right to burn Korans. </p>
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<p>Thinking about this a little more...  I haven't heard the preacher himself say this, but I certainly assume that he's burning the Korans <strong>because</strong> of the mosque at Ground Zero.  In other words, he's trying to make a point that just becuase it's legal to do something, it doesn't mean you should do it. </p>
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<p>We here in the U.S. have had a spirited debate over the mosque for the last month or two.  But to my knowledge, there hasn't been much violence because of it.  I know a Muslim cab driver in NYC was attacked by a lunatic, but hopefully that was just an isolated incident.  Perhaps there has been an increase in bigotry against Muslims, but I don't think anyone has <strong>killed</strong> a Mulsim.  If, however, the burning of the Koran does incite violence and death in the Middle East, then it will just prove the preacher's point:  Americans react to something they find distateful or even offensive by opening a debate;  but <em>radical</em> Muslims react to something distateful or offensive by killing. </p>
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<p>I'm not saying this is my point of view; this is just what I think is the preacher's point of view.  Let's hope it doesn't get proven correct.  Innocent lives should not be used as "collateral damage" when trying to prove a point...</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>dg1</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69986/florida-church-planning-to-burn-at-least-200-quran-koran-on-sept-11th#post_1943063"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a><br><p><br>
Shouldn't that be Middle East-U.S. realations?<br>
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Hmm.  Maybe.  But there's more than just Muslims in the Middle East.  One of my best friends at work is a Muslim from Egypt.  He says that Egypt is 10% Christian.  Obviously there are lots of Jews in Israel.  Does this issue affect U.S. relations with these groups? </p>
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We all know that we are talking about a small minority of the world's Muslim population.  I think there are about 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide.  If only 0.001% of them are "radical" to the point that they endorse violence, that's still 15,000 people.  And that's enough to be scary.</p>
 

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<p>The right to burn Korans, or any right for that matter, is pointless unless it's exercised.  So it can be argued that there is something worthwhile in doing it.  As far as the charge of putting Americans in harm's way by doing so, that carries the same validity as charging that it's the media putting Americans in harm's way by covering it.</p>
 

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So we should do all kinds of stupid shit just because we can?</p>
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<p>"The media" is not one monlithic organization. If some news outlets refuse to cover it, others will.<br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>PeterP</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69986/florida-church-planning-to-burn-at-least-200-quran-koran-on-sept-11th#post_1943147"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>The right to burn Korans, or any right for that matter, is pointless unless it's exercised.  So it can be argued that there is something worthwhile in doing it.  As far as the charge of putting Americans in harm's way by doing so, that carries the same validity as charging that it's the media putting Americans in harm's way by covering it.</p>
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So we should do all kinds of stupid shit just because we can?</p>
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<p>"The media" is not one monlithic organization. If some news outlets refuse to cover it, others will.<br>
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If some churches refuse to burn the Koran, others will.  Whatever argument you propose to use against Koran burning, can be used against the media for covering it.<br>
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<p>yes, but the burners are the ones who ultimately chose to do the deed, undoubtedly aware that it would generate media attention, and the newsfolk simply showed up to do their job.  </p>
 

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