Extreme Trail & Ultra Weekend Reports 7/9 - 11

runNYtrails · Jul 11, 2010

<img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/dontknow.gif" title=""> Anybody do anything fun this weekend ??

Brian Runner · Jul 11, 2010

Ran with the running club Saturday morning, did 2 hours on the stationary bike while watching the Tour de France, then went for a second run before dark. Doing the same thing on Sunday.

SportiGrl · Jul 12, 2010

I did 3 hours on the trails at Mohican late Saturday morning .... I did the 'purple' loop to lyon's falls and Pleasant hill dam ... and when I got to the dam I went down it and decided some extra hill training was in order ... so ... I went up and down that sucker 3x in 6 minutes!!! 
 
then I ran back along the river on the flatter path towards covered bridge and refilled my water bottle and headed out on the firetower out and back ... when I got to firetower guess what I did? ;-) YEP ... went up and down that thing 3x in 6 minutes! and then ran back to covered bridge ...
 
changed into my 2 bottle belt for the next out and back ... headed thru the campground to Hemlock gorge trail along the river and the treat at the end of that is NORTH RIM TRAIL, haha ... with some decent climbs by local standards ...
 
I got in about 16 miles at Mohican and then headed home and took my favorite pooch on a jog around our hilly 3 mile country block!
 
 
other than that I worked and got in a couple other country block runs with the pup this weekend

crunningman · Jul 12, 2010

Saturday: Right around 21M (3:16:40) or so. Ran the St.Pats 6/12/24hr race course. It is roughly 2.28M including a roughly 1/2 mile out/back to the car. I met 3 runners(Steve/Sara(RD)/Craig(the other) at 6:ish AM (Senator Brett would join us later, around 7:00). So, before running we stashed coolers right off the course to use as a small aidstation. Sara and the other Craig are slower(relatively), so they ran together. I ran with Steve to myself under control. We ran the 1st 7 loops together (20:57, 20:19, 20:45, 21:02, 20:50, 21:55, 21:27). Steve departed and I ran an additional 2 loops (20:15 & 19:42).
 
Sunday: 10M (1:18:54) on the Dr. TK Lawless mountain bike trail. I had no plans to run this fast (2nd fastest time on the course for me) as it was hot out. About 85F give or take. However, the course is 98% covered under the trees, so I went with it.
 
 
I also wanted to add. I wore a "right out of the box" new pair of Montrail Rockridge and can say that I am very pleased with this shoe. Overall, I am not a Montrail fan. But this shoe works for me.
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Last Place Jason · Jul 12, 2010

I finally did something noteworthy this last Friday. Two friends and I completed a 68 mile training run on the Kal-Haven trail from South Haven, MI to Kalamazoo, MI and back. It went well; I've never felt so good after running 60+ miles!
 
We attempted the same run a week ago, but one of them got into a serious funk. We made it 36 miles, then called a taxi. Actually finishing the run was a pretty sweet feeling.

crunningman · Jul 12, 2010

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by Last Place Jason <a href="/forum/thread/68731/extreme-trail-ultra-weekend-reports-7-9-11#post_1920712"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-right:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-bottom:0px solid;"></a> I finally did something noteworthy this last Friday. Two friends and I completed a 68 mile training run on the Kal-Haven trail from South Haven, MI to Kalamazoo, MI and back. It went well; I've never felt so good after running 60+ miles!
 
We attempted the same run a week ago, but one of them got into a serious funk. We made it 36 miles, then called a taxi. Actually finishing the run was a pretty sweet feeling.
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Actually, I was wondering how it went for you guys, Jason. Glad to see that you made it. I may consider running this in August as part of my buildup to a longer race.

SportiGrl · Jul 12, 2010

very cool .. I cannot imagine a 68 mile training run as I haven't even done a 100k race yet! *wowzers* 

<div class="quote-container">Quote:
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by Last Place Jason <a href="/forum/thread/68731/extreme-trail-ultra-weekend-reports-7-9-11#post_1920712"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a> I finally did something noteworthy this last Friday. Two friends and I completed a 68 mile training run on the Kal-Haven trail from South Haven, MI to Kalamazoo, MI and back. It went well; I've never felt so good after running 60+ miles!
 
We attempted the same run a week ago, but one of them got into a serious funk. We made it 36 miles, then called a taxi. Actually finishing the run was a pretty sweet feeling.
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cgerber · Jul 12, 2010

I did a nice run in the San Juans, near Silverton, CO. I'll post some more pics later... 
 
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mudrunner · Jul 12, 2010

I ran the Knee Knacker 50km in my slowest time ever....but I had the funnest time ever!
 
I knew that my training was nowhere near PR potential....coupled with the heat wave we had...so I decided to simply have a nice long run.
I managed to chat with folks at the aid stations & peruse their offerings, I enjoyed sitting at the bench at St Georges & admired the view, I took a moment at a memorial bench that was dedicated to a fellow Knee Knackerer who passed away last year after a battle with cancer, I hung out with other racers, enjoyed the spray-mister from a 7 year old volunteer, & I finished NOT wanting to see the finish.
A glorious day in the mountains!
 
As a throwback to the old school, & as an attempt to manage the heat, I wore a short sleeved buttoned shirt....it was plaid & collared. It effectively kept me cool (cotton kills in winter, but cools in summer) when it was wet, plus I could unbutton it for full-venting...& the collar kept the back of my neck protected fom the sun.
As I told people along the way....if you can't run with speed, you might as well run with style. Besides....I've tried every brand of technical shirt out there & none of them have made me any faster.
<a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.kickrunners.com/content/type/61/id/41355/width/1000/height/800/flags/" target="_blank"><img alt="Glenn2.JPG" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="12302" data-type="61" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/content/type/61/id/12302/width/747/height/500" style="; width: 747px; height: 500px"></a>

SportiGrl · Jul 12, 2010

heh ... my daughter saw your pic from across the room and thought it was my brother at first ... wondered when he started running ... then realized it wasn't him ... you are much thinner but similar in other ways

glad you had fun with your run!
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by mudrunner <a href="/forum/thread/68731/extreme-trail-ultra-weekend-reports-7-9-11#post_1920928"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a> I ran the Knee Knacker 50km in my slowest time ever....but I had the funnest time ever!
 
I knew that my training was nowhere near PR potential....coupled with the heat wave we had...so I decided to simply have a nice long run.
I managed to chat with folks at the aid stations & peruse their offerings, I enjoyed sitting at the bench at St Georges & admired the view, I took a moment at a memorial bench that was dedicated to a fellow Knee Knackerer who passed away last year after a battle with cancer, I hung out with other racers, enjoyed the spray-mister from a 7 year old volunteer, & I finished NOT wanting to see the finish.
A glorious day in the mountains!
 
As a throwback to the old school, & as an attempt to manage the heat, I wore a short sleeved buttoned shirt....it was plaid & collared. It effectively kept me cool (cotton kills in winter, but cools in summer) when it was wet, plus I could unbutton it for full-venting...& the collar kept the back of my neck protected fom the sun.
As I told people along the way....if you can't run with speed, you might as well run with style. Besides....I've tried every brand of technical shirt out there & none of them have made me any faster.
<a class="H-lightbox-open" href="http://www.kickrunners.com/content/type/61/id/41355/width/1000/height/800/flags/" target="_blank"><img alt="Glenn2.JPG" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="12302" data-type="61" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/content/type/61/id/12302/width/747/height/500" style="; width: 747px; height: 500px"></a>
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Buzzie · Jul 12, 2010

My extreme weekend consisted of a 30-mile inline skate - around (and around and around) the parking lot of the local high school.
We'll call it a good mental toughness day and heat training (mid-day, on unshaded asphalt). <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/rolleyes.gif" title="">
 
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lkschiller · Jul 12, 2010

Ran the Psycho Psummer Run Toto Run 15-mile trail race in Kansas City, KS. Okay, I'm hooked....signing up for my first 50K this week. I'll post some pictures when I get home. Kansas is definitely not flat. This was hill after hill after hill, with lots of rocks and lots of mud. I thought I would finish in 3:30-4:00 but offiicially I finished in 4:27:53. I walked most of the uphills and tried not to kill myself on the steep, rocky downhills...There were a lot of places that were so muddy or steep you had to either walk it or fall over. One hill was so steep and slick they strung a climbing rope up it for you to haul yourself up with...I made sure I stopped at every aid station (every 2 miles), ate a little, refilled my handheld (went with just one), and went back out...one of the aid stations had a band (they put the aid stations at the park shelters around this lake, so you would leave the trail into a clearing and then go back in after the AS).....another runner asked me to dance, so I did, briefly. Some of the trails were bridle trails and horses had really chewed up the mud, had my shoe taken off a few times....but overall had a really good time. Now, I'm not sure I would do the 50K for THIS particular race but I say that without having the supporting training I expect to do...but while were were out there it was tough enough to just get around the thing once, let alone twice!
 
This lady has some pictures on her blog from the race that I can't access at the moment...note the rope climb picture..
<a href="http://indisjournal.blogspot.com/2010/07/summer-runningand-loving-it.html" target="_blank">http://indisjournal.blogspot.com/2010/07/summer-runningand-loving-it.html</a>

SportiGrl · Jul 13, 2010

sounds like a BLAST, lks ... so glad you had fun!
 
when/where is this 50k that you mentioned? 
<div class="quote-container">Quote:
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by lkschiller <a href="/forum/thread/68731/extreme-trail-ultra-weekend-reports-7-9-11#post_1921031"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a> Ran the Psycho Psummer Run Toto Run 15-mile trail race in Kansas City, KS. Okay, I'm hooked....signing up for my first 50K this week. I'll post some pictures when I get home. Kansas is definitely not flat. This was hill after hill after hill, with lots of rocks and lots of mud. I thought I would finish in 3:30-4:00 but offiicially I finished in 4:27:53. I walked most of the uphills and tried not to kill myself on the steep, rocky downhills...There were a lot of places that were so muddy or steep you had to either walk it or fall over. One hill was so steep and slick they strung a climbing rope up it for you to haul yourself up with...I made sure I stopped at every aid station (every 2 miles), ate a little, refilled my handheld (went with just one), and went back out...one of the aid stations had a band (they put the aid stations at the park shelters around this lake, so you would leave the trail into a clearing and then go back in after the AS).....another runner asked me to dance, so I did, briefly. Some of the trails were bridle trails and horses had really chewed up the mud, had my shoe taken off a few times....but overall had a really good time. Now, I'm not sure I would do the 50K for THIS particular race but I say that without having the supporting training I expect to do...but while were were out there it was tough enough to just get around the thing once, let alone twice!
 
This lady has some pictures on her blog from the race that I can't access at the moment...note the rope climb picture..
<a href="http://indisjournal.blogspot.com/2010/07/summer-runningand-loving-it.html" target="_blank">http://indisjournal.blogspot.com/2010/07/summer-runningand-loving-it.html</a>
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lkschiller · Jul 13, 2010

Sporti, it is the Bass Pro Fitness festival Dogwood Canyon 25K/50K trail run in Lampe, MO. October 31, 2010.
 
<a href="http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CFPage?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&appID=512&objectID=13" target="_blank">http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CFPage?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&appID=512&objectID=13</a>

Mobius · Jul 14, 2010

I bailed on my long run after 2 hours on Saturday. The humidity was back up again (80%+) and combined with the heat and my growing fatigue I dragged my butt home. I've got a sprint triathlon next Sunday so I finally broke out the tri bike and "fixed" it (made it worse) but got a 35mi ride in on it.
 
The best part of the weekend was taking my 4 year old daughter camping; her first. The local park is quite nice and all of 4 miles away. We set up the tent, played on the play ground, took a hike. Upon returning we cooked Mac and Cheese over the old camp stove (an ancient Whisperlight white gas stove that still works great) then made a campfire and roasted hot dogs and marshmallows. For an added touch of flair we made blueberry "cobbler" (bisquick mix with fresh blue berries thrown in) in tin foil packs tossed onto the coals. After a clean up and bathroom visit we watched the bats in the sky, read a few stories and she was out like a light. Unfortunately a t-storm rolled through around 8am the next morning (wasn't suppose to happen!) We did a quick pack up and headed home, but all in all it was a great time for the two of us. I think she really enjoyed it. It's certainly something I'll remember.

SportiGrl · Jul 14, 2010

cool beans!!! you're going to have a lot of fun!
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by lkschiller <a href="/forum/thread/68731/extreme-trail-ultra-weekend-reports-7-9-11#post_1921336"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border-bottom:0px solid;border-left:0px solid;border-top:0px solid;border-right:0px solid;"></a> Sporti, it is the Bass Pro Fitness festival Dogwood Canyon 25K/50K trail run in Lampe, MO. October 31, 2010.
 
<a href="http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CFPage?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&appID=512&objectID=13" target="_blank">http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CFPage?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&appID=512&objectID=13</a>
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fatozzig · Jul 17, 2010

You're freakin' stylin', Muddy!
 
I'm a little late to the game, but last Saturday we ran Siskiyou Out Back (SOB) 50k up Mt. Ashland, OR. I'm not happy with my performance, but I finished - 40 min slower than last year. It was hot, and I was told a lot of folks were about 20 min slower this year. Coach had to remind me that, because I knew I wouldn't have the mileage/training in, I said, "I just want to run SOB again. If I finish, I finish. If I don't, I don't." Guess that's easier said that done. <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/rolleyes.gif" title=""> The last 3 miles just killed me. It's all uphill.
 
The aid station workers are the best. Lots of ice water sponge baths. Yeah, baby! Also, I have what's called "benign essential tremor" in my left hand. There's nothing that can be done about it, although my doc says alcohol helps. <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif" title=""> Under certain conditions, it shakes really bad. It doesn't help that I'm left-handed. Anyway, totally freaked out some of the aid stations workers! They were so worried about me - which is good, 'cause it means they're paying attention and want to take care of the runners. But I felt sorry for them and kept having to explain, "No! I'm fine. I'm okay. Honest. But, uh, I could use a little help with this bladder since my hand won't stop shaking."
 
If you ever find yourself in Ashland, OR, in July, SOB is a really beautiful run.

PepeCorsica · Jul 18, 2010

Just ran the vermont 100... 90degrees on the hills.... I got dehydrated and had to drop out... I am so sad..
Someone has to tell me how in hell you can rehydrate at the same pace as you dehydrate when it's hot.
my stomach couldn't keep up. I had electrolites, heed, water,... useless. I lost 13 pounds and was cramping everywhere, even my tongue...
I'll be back on another (cooler) race 
Pepe

PepeCorsica · Jul 18, 2010

Good job fatozzig!!,
don't be mean with yourself, you finished it, and you enjoyed it (except the end). 
I say great job!

John M. · Jul 19, 2010

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by PepeCorsica <a href="/forum/thread/68731/extreme-trail-ultra-weekend-reports-7-9-11#post_1923479"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a> Just ran the vermont 100... 90degrees on the hills.... I got dehydrated and had to drop out... I am so sad..
Someone has to tell me how in hell you can rehydrate at the same pace as you dehydrate when it's hot.
my stomach couldn't keep up. I had electrolites, heed, water,... useless. I lost 13 pounds and was cramping everywhere, even my tongue...
I'll be back on another (cooler) race 
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With only what you have written -- you waited too long to get started. That "I lost 13 pounds and was cramping everywhere..." part sort of points at not drinking (water and electrolyte stuff) early enough. If you went out at a higher effort level than your fitness plus the heat would allow, you just got in trouble early. From reading a few of the DNF reports from the warm hundreds so far this year, people are more fearful of a slow pace than of dehydration concerns.
 
It is an old Web site, but <a href="http://www.ultrunr.com" target="_blank">http://www.ultrunr.com</a> has lots of good stuff to read, so does Karl's Web site (S-Caps, SUCCEED! and so forth -- articles over on the left) <a href="http://www.succeedscaps.com/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.succeedscaps.com/index.html</a>

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