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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><em><span style="color:#b22222;"><img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/dontknow.gif" title="">   Whatcha'll  been doin' out there ?? </span></em></span></p>
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<p><img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/hello2.gif" title="">   <span style="font-size:16px;"><span style="color:#b22222;">We wanna know <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><em>all</em></span> about it !!  Brag On fellow runningjunkies !  </span></span></p>
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<p>Decided a few days out to drop down from the 50 to the marathon at North Country. My training (well, actual running) this season has been for squat and I just wanted to enjoy a day in the woods without beating myself up (too much).</p>
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<p>This was my first race in VFFs - something I've been building up to since November.</p>
<p>Had an absolute blast dancing with the terrain.</p>
<p>In traditional shoes I feel like godzilla - just stomping my way across, through, over anything without regard. Sure, you can go fast this way; but, to me it seems incongruous to be trampling through such beauty. I much prefer to feel "a part of" and mindful.</p>
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<p>Yes, I did stub/catch my toe. Often. As my lingering shankle issue had me guarding my footfalls - my form deteriorated. So, I traded the underlapping pinky toes, blisters, and unsteadiness of traditional shoes for this:</p>
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<p>Although I'll get better, this probably isn't the last time I'll catch a toe. I need a new curse. Something less offensive, and that rolls off the tongue more readily, than <em>JFC!!!</em></p>
 

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<p>Sounds like a fun run Buzzie! </p>
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<p>I was aiming for 20 on Saturday but we ended up with 22 and walked an additional 2. The route was 4 miles long (I didn't plan it!) but was a good run.</p>
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<p>Rode 60mi on the bike Sunday. It was a bit slower than I wanted, but given the previous days run I'll take it. I ran out of snacks and had to snag my daughters princess gummi things (very tasty actually) for both days. They were a big hit when sharing with my run partners.</p>
 

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<p>17 miles on Friday afternoon at Bennett...what a difference the time of day makes with whether or not I get chiggers!  Early in the morning with the dew still on the ground, even with a completely overgrown trail--no bugs.  Warm afternoon run with no dew and a slightly overgrown trail and my legs get eaten alive despite multiple bug spray applications.  <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad2.gif" style="width:16px;height:16px;" title="">  Besides that, I worked on taking more fluids and food while running.  My hands were less puffy than they had been getting.   My 50K is now 10 weeks out.</p>
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<p>9.3 miles Saturday morning in town before the sun came up.  Sunday was a rest day.</p>
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<p>Oh, along with my friend's DNF at Leadville last week, somehow my Garmin died as well while it was out there, so all the data it acquired from his race is gone as well.  It won't charge back up and none of the reset methods I found have revived it.  He feels really bad since it was with him when it died but it's almost 3 years old and I don't think it had anything to do with where it was, it just happened.  My refurbed unit from Garmin should be here today or tomorrow.</p>
 

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<p>we went to a 12 hour race yesterday. We were each going to run 6 hours, but Zoe was a little upset when i went to run, so i did 20 miles than ran around with her. I did not start my running shift until 1pm and it was HOT!</p>
 

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<p>ran for 12 hours around my neighborhood. aaaaah, now time to taper. i embrace the taper since i have such an active lazy streak <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif" title=""> blogged about the run <a href="http://2snshoes.blogspot.com/2010/08/last-long-run-report.html" target="_blank">here</a>. but for a highlight, here is a photo of the dog who barked at me every 9-14 minutes for 12 hours <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/BangHead.gif" title=""></p>
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<p>and one of me and my friend, Lizard, clowning around. she was kind enough to get me through one of the later hours...</p>
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<p>I ran my first 50 miler at the North Country Trail Run this weekend.  I finished in 9:25.  I'm in the process of trying to put together a race report.  Of course, that's more just so I have a record of my thoughts from my first "real" ultra.</p>
 

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<p>I ran 14-15 miles on the Nanomocomuck trail in perfect weather mid-day Saturday. I saw more bears than people. I wondered if people go outside anymore. It's OK with me, I felt like I was in my own private trail world, but it's rare when I see bikers, hikers, or other runners when I'm out in the woods. Walked up the Valley Way to Madison hut Sunday with the dog. Saw lots of folks then.</p>
 

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<p>Medoc Meltdown 50K for me. An NC Fat Ass that is a lot of fun. All single track, heat picked up nicely during the day. Wish I had photos :(</p>
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<p>I am running with a [pretty minor] fractured toe at the moment, so I stopped at 26 after things started to get a little sore on the downhills. Messed up the hydration and was pretty dehydrated by the end of it. I found out that watermelon and chocolate soymilk don't go together that well.</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Hoernigsm</strong> <a href="/forum/thread/69776/er-weekend-reports-aug-27-29th#post_1940100"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a><br><br><p>I ran my first 50 miler at the North Country Trail Run this weekend.  I finished in 9:25.  I'm in the process of trying to put together a race report.  Of course, that's more just so I have a record of my thoughts from my first "real" ultra.</p>
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<p><img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif" title="">   <span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#800000;">Some nice hiking and running in PA this weekend</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#800000;"><strong>Thursday</strong> -  <em>Worlds End State Park - Canyon Vista Trail</em> -  Yer typical rocks and roots of Pennsylvania and NY.  Called the Endless Mountains, steep climb to start but not really too much elevation  <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/hello2.gif" title=""></span></span></p>
<p><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#800000;"><strong>Friday</strong> -  <em>Ricketts Glen State Park - Falls Trail</em> -  a spectacular trail lined with 21 Waterfalls. Beautiful !  Some very nice runnable sections and some areas of difficult footing.  It was </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height:17px;font-size:14px;color:rgb(128,0,0);">difficult to just run through as the Falls were all worthy of pause and photos.  Rated as one of the 'best hikes' on the East Coast.  Definitely worthy of a day spent                   walking </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height:17px;font-size:14px;color:rgb(128,0,0);"> or runnin' !</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#800000;"><strong>Saturday</strong> -  <em>Worlds End Trail</em> @ Worlds End State Park. An out n back trail with a big climb followed by 6 miles of nice flat trail and then the hairy descent.  I passed the "Worlds End Vista"    ( <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/shock.gif" title="">  twice )  without knowing exactly what n where it was ... not sure how that happened   <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/confused.gif" title="">   Hmmmm ?  Unless it was that  (haha) great view  of the roadway down below that i passed a couple times ... i guess it must have been ... shame on me ...</span></span></p>
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<p><a href="http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/runNYtrails/PA%20Hiking%20-%20August%202010/?albumview=slideshow" target="_blank">http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/runNYtrails/PA Hiking - August 2010/?albumview=slideshow</a></p>
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<p><img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/icon_cheers.gif" title="">    <span style="color:#800000;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><strong>YAY !!  That was <em>FUN</em> !!</strong></span></span></p>
 

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<p><img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif" title="">   <span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#800000;">Some nice hiking and running in PA this weekend</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#800000;"><strong>Thursday</strong> -  <em>Worlds End State Park - Canyon Vista Trail</em> -  Yer typical rocks and roots of Pennsylvania and NY.  Called the Endless Mountains, steep climb to start but not really too much elevation  <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/hello2.gif" title=""></span></span></p>
<p><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#800000;"><strong>Friday</strong> -  <em>Ricketts Glen State Park - Falls Trail</em> -  a spectacular trail lined with 21 Waterfalls. Beautiful !  Some very nice runnable sections and some areas of difficult footing.  It was </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height:17px;color:rgb(128,0,0);font-size:14px;">difficult to just run through as the Falls were all worthy of pause and photos.  Rated as one of the 'best hikes' on the East Coast.  Definitely worthy of a day spent                   walking </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height:17px;color:rgb(128,0,0);font-size:14px;"> or runnin' !</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color:#800000;"><strong>Saturday</strong> -  <em>Worlds End Trail</em> @ Worlds End State Park. An out n back trail with a big climb followed by 6 miles of nice flat trail and then the hairy descent.  I passed the "Worlds End Vista"    ( <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/shock.gif" title="">  twice )  without knowing exactly what n where it was ... not sure how that happened   <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/confused.gif" title="">   Hmmmm ?  Unless it was that  (haha) great view  of the roadway down below that i passed a couple times ... i guess it must have been ... shame on me ...</span></span></p>
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<p><a href="http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/runNYtrails/PA%20Hiking%20-%20August%202010/?albumview=slideshow" target="_blank">http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd282/runNYtrails/PA Hiking - August 2010/?albumview=slideshow</a></p>
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<p><img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/icon_cheers.gif" title="">    <span style="color:#800000;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><strong>YAY !!  That was <em>FUN</em> !!</strong></span></span></p>
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Next time you need to hop on the Loyalsock Trail (actually, you would have been on it for a little while on the climb up to the great view at Canyon Vista. 60 mile trail in total, but with chances to form loops of various lengths using side trails. I usually start at the Mead Road parking lot on Route 220, taking the Loyalsock Trail all the way to World's End, and then pick up the Link Trail up over Canyon Vist, all the way back to the Old Iron Bridge before taking the LT back to the parking area. Several great swimming holes along the way for during summer runs ("The Haystacks" is best).</p>
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<p>P.S: Can't believe there was any water in Ricketts Glenn. Its been a very dry summer. Last Time did that trail, in a year not so dry as this one, the falls were just about gone.</p>
 

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<p><br><br><span style="color:#a52a2a;">Thanks <strong>shellerz</strong> !  Beast O' Burden was pretty good, maybe i;ll do a little blurb about my hours spent out on "The Toadpath".</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#a52a2a;">(There were <em>so many</em> very large toads out there during the rainy hours of nightime.  It was wild ! )  Your UM pals put on</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#a52a2a;">a great event  I think you'd  like it and do very well !</span></p>
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Next time you need to hop on the Loyalsock Trail (actually, you would have been on it for a little while on the climb up to the great view at Canyon Vista. 60 mile trail in total, but with chances to form loops of various lengths using side trails. I usually start at the Mead Road parking lot on Route 220, taking the Loyalsock Trail all the way to World's End, and then pick up the Link Trail up over Canyon Vist, all the way back to the Old Iron Bridge before taking the LT back to the parking area. Several great swimming holes along the way for during summer runs ("The Haystacks" is best).</p>
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<p><br><br><span style="color:#a52a2a;">Thanks for the recommendation, <strong>BR</strong> !  I am hoping to get back and do some of the LT and will try that course ... it would be a loop then, right ?  Point to points are difficult when ya head out alone  <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/lol.gif" style="width:15px;height:15px;" title="">    Any idea what the mileage would be ? </span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#a52a2a;">Glad there was water @ RG ... i imagine it wouldnt be nearly as spectacular if it was dry.   I loved having the sound of the water beside me at all times</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#a52a2a;">and the different sounds depending on the flow.  Great way to run.</span></p>
 

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<p>(I'm using the mileage from the trail guide, but its hard to say how old the measurements are and using what methods. Some sections do have mile markers. I'm sending you from the end of the trail so the numbers would be counting down)</p>
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<p>I usually start at Mead Road. From that point its <strong>6 miles</strong> to Sones Pond. Before you reach Sones Pond you actually cross paths with the Link Trail (it ends at the Iron Bridge), but you won't be picking it up until the way home. Sones Pond is on the top of the mountain, so there is a decent climb up from the valley floor. But once you get to the top its mostly rolling-to-flat. From Sones Pond its another <strong>8 miles</strong> to Worlds End. You cross a seasonal forest service road about two miles from the end of this section, then its slightly down hill until the last half mile or so at which point the trail piggy backs on "High Rock Trail" which is a very steep down hill made essentially of boulders. Its hard enough to hike, impossible to run... there is an easier way down, but you'll have to back track along the main paved road to get back to the trail. I've done this section in like 2 hours before, and then paid for it later in the day on the other side of the valley. Last year on a run, rather than go down into the valley I turned around at High Rock and ran back. Ended up within 30 yards of a Mother Bear and two cubs who were foraging along the trail between Alpine Falls and Sones Pond.</p>
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<p>At Worlds End pick up the Link Trail for the climb to Canyon Vista. The LT, Link and Canyon Vista Trails all lead to the vista, and more or less run together until that point. Once you reach the vista you have to be sure to take Link Trail though, as the trails separate here. Along the Link Trail its <strong>7 miles</strong> from Worlds End to the end of the trail at the Iron Bridge.</p>
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<p>It the Iron Bridge you run into the LT again. Follow it back out to Mead Road (aprox 4 miles)</p>
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<p>If you carry a pack I recommend a snake bite kit. The mountain tops are around 2 thousand feet, which is prime rattle snake territory down here.</p>
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<p>Would love to do the entire 60 miles of the Loyalsock Trail someday... and it would be a great place to give NEPA a much needed Ultra. Right now the Park and the State Forest around it are in danger from natural gas drilling. Some how the state ended up not controlling the mineral rights like they do on most park lands, and this area is booming with drilling action.</p>
 

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<p><span style="color:#800000;"><img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/shock.gif" title="">   <span style="font-size:18px;"><strong>Snakes and Boulders and <em>Bears</em>,  <em>OH MY</em> !!   </strong></span></span></p>
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<p><img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/hello2.gif" title="">   <span style="color:#8b4513;"><span style="font-size:16px;">Sign Me up for <strong>The Loyalsocks Sixty</strong> !!   instead of tee-shirts you could have socks with</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:16px;"><span style="color:#8b4513;">          snakes n bear on them   <img alt="" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif" title=""></span></span></p>
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<p>. . .  the trail piggy backs on "High Rock Trail" which is a very steep down hill made essentially of <strong><span style="color:#a52a2a;">boulders</span></strong>. Its hard enough to hike, impossible to run.</p>
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<p>. . . I turned around at High Rock and ran back. Ended up within 30 yards of a <strong><span style="color:#800000;">Mother Bear</span></strong> and two cubs who were foraging along the trail between Alpine Falls and Sones Pond.</p>
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<p>. . . If you carry a pack I recommend a snake bite kit. The mountain tops are around 2 thousand feet, which is prime <span style="color:#800000;"><strong>rattle snake territory</strong></span> down here.</p>
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<p>Would love to do the entire 60 miles of the Loyalsock Trail someday... and it would be a great place to give NEPA a much needed Ultra. </p>
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<p>The Loyalsock would be great for a race. World's End State Park would be a good headquarters with cabins to rent, and lots of camping spots - and a short drive back to the trailhead at Mead Road. Its not too far from Williamsport either for food and lodging. You could put an aid station at the old iron bridge, as you have access from the dirt road. Have the next aid where the trail crosses the dirt road just before Sones Pond. The trail crosses the same dirt road again before a couple miles from the park. (Its a forest service road. Its 11 miles from end to end with zero traffic, you really don't even realize its there until you cross it). Next up would be Worlds End, which has great access for friends and family, followed by Canyon Vista, and so on....</p>
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<p>We really need a long race down here. The Finger Lakes had the next closest events, but even less than 2 hours away most people are oblivious to the fact that these kinds of events exist. Lots of runners, but nobody providing them with and new options..</p>
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<p>The other place I had the idea of holding a race is the pine creek rail trail ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Creek_Trail" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Creek_Trail</a> ) From Jersey Shore Pa to Wellsboro Pa. Wouldn't be as interesting as the single track of the Loyalsock, but at 65 miles of crushed limestone with a grade never greater than 2% its perfect to hold a fast 100k. Better yet, hold a 50 and a 100 on an out-and-back.</p>
 

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<p>As indicated, here's my RR (my first attempt at a RR). <a href="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/thread/69910/north-country-trail-run-rr#post_1942018" target="_blank">http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/thread/69910/north-country-trail-run-rr#post_1942018</a></p>
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