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First Disney marathon and first marathon since '01. Had to cancel Rock N Roll San Diego in '06 due to an injury.<br><br>
Goals for Disney<br>
1. BQ @ 3:35 (old man)<br>
2. Improve masters pr of 3:20<br>
3. Top 5 in 50-59 age group to get medal<br>
4. 3:10 - race charts showed 2:58-3:05 (anything above 3:10 = failure)<br>
5. 3:00 on a perfect day/race<br><br>
Arrived Fri afternoon and checked into Pop Disney resort. Saturday ran a 4 mile shake down run and rested the rest of the day. Got up about 2:30 to prepare, dress, eat, etc. Got on the bus to the starting line about 3:30. Our bus driver was still asleep too as she missed a couple turns. No problem as it was warmer on the bus and comfortable.<br><br>
Started in A corral where I met Kestrou briefly. Also met pacerchris who was running the 3:20 group. I lined up between the 3:10 and 3:20 group. Goal pace was 6:50.<br><br>
Miles as follows:<br>
1. 6:46<br>
2. 6:49<br>
3. 7:03<br>
4. 6:37<br>
5. 6:54<br>
6. 6:51 Pace is ok but too much effort required; knew I was in trouble<br>
7. 6:56<br>
8. 6:57<br>
9. 6:44 Better<br>
10. 6.51 OK<br>
11. 6:41<br>
12. 7:13 carp<br>
13. 7:00<br>
half @ 1:31:00 and was wanting 1:29-1:30<br>
14. 7:02<br>
15. 7:26<br>
16. 7:21 Should I drop? No, just finish<br>
17. 7:56<br>
18. 7:12<br>
19. 7:36<br>
20. 7:33<br>
21. 7:50 3:10 pace group passes at this point and I could not hang<br>
22. 7:50<br>
23. 7:49<br>
24. 8:00<br>
25. 8:44 Cramp in hamstring which stopped me cold<br>
26. 8:11<br>
finish 3:13:50 Good for 111th o.a.; 7th of 654 in 50-59 male; 99th male.<br><br>
I missed the 5th place medal by 2:30 and I gave that back the 2nd half of the race. I did BQ and will go '09, I improved my master's pr by 6:10 (only run 2 masters marathons), failed at my 3:10 and 3:00. So the <b>it</b>took a hit (for explanation go to master's thread<img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">).<br><br>
What went wrong? Overinflated estimation of ability? Underfit? Weather? Just the wrong day? Or combination of above. The interesting thing is that I'm not passionate about doing well or badly in this race. When I have a "bad" race it is immediately targeted for revenge the next year. Not so this time. Looking for a late fall marathon somewhere.<br><br>
p.s. The real hero of our family is the dw (the lovely and gracious mrs ccrunner. This is her 3rd marathon and was never an athlete until last few years. Her previous 2 marathons were in the 5:15 range. She increaded mileage and we were certain she was in shape for a 4:45-5:00. 2 weeks before the race 5 miles into a 13 mile easy run she got a pain in her shin. 2 days later we take her for an mri. No stress fracture but severe shin splint (her first). Doc says to run if she can stand the pain as she won't hurt it any worse. Swimming for 2 weeks and she can walk without a limp. At mile 5 she is in tears due to the pain but won't quit. She walks, runs, shuffles to the finish in 6:31 or so and gets her medal. along the way she meets and talks to a lot of people. One such man was a real inspiration to her. A man likely in his 60's told her he was struck by a car riding his road bike last August and broke his hip. As some of the master's runners know; we lost one of our 60's bike riders to an auto accident about the same time last year. The previous year the doctor told him he had terminal cancer. He ran, walked, and shuffled with a cane to the finish. I am more proud of her earning the medal than I am of mine. Sure glad I didn't drop out of the race.<br><br>
Thanks for reading. Any suggestions on a fast fall marathon would be appreciated.
 

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Royal Vic. Not pancake flat, but has legions of fans.
 

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Speaking of "it".... IT'S about time, young man!<br><br>
You have such talent and sure seem to have bounced back well after this marathon. You'll hit your goal next time. I think you did great and congrats to the Mrs too. She is a very courageous woman.<br><br>
What's next on your dance card?
 

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I've been looking forward to this report! You may have missed a few of your goals and 'slowed' down towards the end, but you still ran a respectable race KSrunr!! And pass along my heartfelt kudos to your wife for gutting it out and still enjoying the remainder of the race. Sounds like she met some interesting folks along the way that she otherwise would not have. It's unfortunate she was in so much pain though.
 

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Thanks for the details mr. ccrunr.<br>
Congratulations to you and DW.<br>
I don't know how fast it is but, we are planning on running a marathon in Detroit Michigan in October.
 

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there ya go... I was looking for it.<img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif"> to you and <img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif"> to DW<br>
I usually don't know what to say to fast people like you. Interesting how you managed your decisions, had plenty of room to change and ended up with a BQ.<br>
What a giant talent. Use your gift!!!!<img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif">
 

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that's gutting it out ks!<br><br>
congrats on the new master's pr, and bq for 09! sounds like we both learned some lessons, and am sure you're as itchy as i am to get out there and apply those lessons this fall.<br><br>
i'm thinking hartford in october 08. more details later.<br><br>
kick back, have some fun running, and remember the good parts with the lessons.<br><br>
and pass along some congrats to that great dw of yours! hard as nails!
 

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Congratulations! Maybe you didn't hit all your goals but still a great result. I hope your DW heals quickly and will try another marathon again. I will think of her any time I feel like giving up. ( Hartford would be a good one for both of you.)
 

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KS, dang, wow! Both of you: <img alt="icon_salut.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/icon_salut.gif"> !!! ccrunner is right -- the stories and friendships that arrive south of 5 or 6 hours are just wonderful!<br><br>
I plan to BQ at either Detroit or Hartford. So see ya in Boston '09. <img alt="cool.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/cool.gif">
 

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congrats on the new masters record and BQing too. You had that to take away from this race, plus more experience and a courageous DW. Well done.
 

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Wow. Sometimes it doesn't all come together, but that is a fantastic salvage run after it started going cold. Next time might be the one where it works out the way you dream of. Or not...but then there would be the time after that...(this is the problem with the way my mind works...).
 

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ksrunr, you did your best to set realistic and challenging goals. Some things did not go your way, but you were tough enough to finish and PR by 6 minutes! Although it's not everything you wanted, it seems like a successful race to me. Congratulations.<br><br>
I hope you and DW recover quickly.<br><br>
Hey, <a href="http://stgeorgemarathon.com/" target="_blank">St George</a> is a fast Fall marathon. I may be doing that one (it's a lottery entry so I'm not sure). Plus they have those // things all over their web site; I'm sure your fellow pirate tomwhite would approve. <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">
 

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<span style="font-size:small;">Hey KS,</span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">The warm temps, and especially the humdity, put you at a big disadvantage right from the start. However, I'm quite sure you still would have run under 3:10 if you had adjusted for the conditions and saved your sub-3 try for for another day. It would be easy for me to sit here and say that's would you should have done, but under the same circumstances I almost surely would have gone for it just like you did. In the end you really didn't lose much. You still ran a nice time, smashed your master's PR, and got your BQ with a couple miles to spare. Also, the training you did leading up to this day is going to serve you well in the coming months. As I said before, the only advice I would have is for you to look for a nice course that has a high expectation of good weather conditions for your next try. I see some big races on the horizon for you.</span><br><br><span style="font-size:small;">Jim</span>
 

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Well, I'm glad you're not beating yourself up about this race, KS. I can't really add anything that hasn't already been said; I've no wise marathoning advice, so I'll leave that to the others. But I still think you ran a good race, setting a new master's PR. Nice job...you're only gonna get better.<br><br>
I'm sending healing vibes to your wife, also. (Sounds like she's a woman of grit and determination!)
 

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ksrunr,<br><br>
Take heart that "you're an old man" <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> - yet you even beat the BQ time for the young whippersnappers! <img alt="banana.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/banana.gif"><br><br>
It was very humid that day - sure you don't want to leverage the fitness you've got in the tank for another hard attempt this spring?!<br><br>
Or maybe recover for a week and then ramp up to HAMMER Boston?!!!!<br><br>
kestrou
 

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3:13 doesn't sound like a "what went wrong" time to me.<br>
I was rooting for a top 5 AG all the way.<br>
It takes guts to toe to line with that goal in that size field.<br><br>
You're a man with guts<br>
and you can't measure that with numbers.<br>
That was an A+ run by a long shot.<br>
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Great time for an "Old Man"<br><br>
I am a little confused as to race charts showing a 2:58 - 3:05 thats a pretty big spread.<br><br>
I honestly think you had a 3:03 to a 3:05 in you had you actually evenly paced for that time. Its a lot easier to run 7:00 pace and gut out the last 3-5 miles to hold on.<br><br>
I am not trying to take anything away from you as it was a great time and a tough performance to hold on - Just trying to give some objective feedback.<br><br>
Good running -
 

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I think you still have <b>it</b>. It looks like you made a great comeback for the finish after that cramp. It could have been a lot worse, if that had come earlier. I know what you mean about the pace group passing, though. Excellent running!
 

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Great PR. I'm looking forward to hearing about your next race.
 
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