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<span style="font-size:xx-small;">Not to be confused with the popular TV show, <i>Dances with Durt.</i></span> <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"><br><br>
Who's going to Hell this year, anyone? This is my first time at <a href="http://www.danceswithdirt.com/" target="_blank">DwD.</a><br><br>
Let's see, 100km divided by 5 relay runners = about 12 miles each.<br><br>
There's also a 50km and 50mi ultra.<br><br>
I hear Hi Everybody might be there. I can't wait to meet the legend that is timlooney!<br><br>
Anyone else? Camping? Who can tell us about the course?<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_cheers.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="cheers">
 

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The course is challenging. Last year, on the "where's the f'n bridge" I went chest deep in a mud hole. On another leg, the start of the leg was a few hundred yards going upstream in a shallow river.
 

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I wish i was running this race!!!!!!
 

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Where's the f'ning bridge sucks<br>
This Sucks - sucks<br>
Butt Kicker - sucks<br><br>
ok pretty much the whole course sucks<br><br>
It's a lot of fun if you take it for what it is. Ultra runners get treated like royalty - relay runners get treated like the skurvy dawgs they are!
 

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Tim (or any other DwD veterans,)<br><br>
Is there a good strategy for selecting what relay legs to run?
 

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I don't think they've posted this year's course yet, but here's last years<br><a href="http://dwd2006.do262.com/" target="_blank">http://dwd2006.do262.com/</a>
 

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It depends on how much you enjoy mud. If you run This Sucks use a pair of shoes that are ready for the trash heap. The mud will be at least thigh deep and many people end up falling in and getting covered with mud.<br><br>
I say just try to even the mileage out and bring poison ivy soap. There will be poison ivy.
 

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Tim-<br><br>
Our team got together last night and we made a line-up. They have me slotted to run:<br><br>
Potto<br>
Styx, River of Death<br>
Dirt's Revenge<br><br>
Looking forward to this!
 

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I haven't done leg assignments yet. I'm doing it this weekend. It's going to be a blast.
 

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Figured your lineup yet?<br><br>
What can you tell me about Styx, River of Death?
 

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I'm running Purgator, Where's the F'n Bridge and Amputation.<br><br>
Styx is wet. Listen to the people on the bridge guiding you towards the more shallow waters. Watch out for the sharp rocks. Bring a towel.
 

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p.s. Potto is just some nice trail running. Enjoy that leg. I love this trail. It punishes you gently.
 

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sounds like a great race with those names!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><b>Relay Course</b> <b>Details</b></span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">Leg 1. The Stampede: (Blue)</span> Distance: 4.75 miles</span></b><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Half Moon Lake Start: Half Moon Lake Beach Finish</span><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Cross: 3. Road safety crossing method, watch the yellow caution tape & volunteers. Course generally clockwise version of Crooked Lake Trail with bit of alternative section in the middle. Fast and crowded. Pretty, rolling, rocking dash. Watch road crossing near finish. Dry.</span></b><br><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg 2. Butt Kicker (Orange/Black Tiger Stripe) Distance: 5.35</span></b><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Half Moon Lake Beach Finish: Silver Lake Beach at Concession Stand, lakeside.</span></b><br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Cross: 1. Abyss and Death by Mosquitoes areas are good opportunity to sprain an ankle. Nasty decline and climb in middle followed by Butt Slider should make ankle swell double in size. Call Great Lakes Institute of Manual Therapy before all the hamstring pulls happen later in the day!</span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">The Abyss has been dry but the recent rain could make it more fun. Otherwise, great trails.</span><br><br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><b>Leg 3. Rave Run (Pink) Distance: 3.4.</b></span><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start. Silver Lake Beach, Concession lakeside. Finish: Silver Lake Beach Nob</span></b><br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Crossings 2. Dangerous cross running Infinite. Beginning and End are out and back so opposing runners present. A face to face meeting in blind turn could take an eye out. A beautiful trail run. Most say harder than we think (wimps).</span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg 4. Potto (Pink) Distance: 6.1</span></b><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Silver Lake. End: Half Moon Lake</span></b><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Cross: 2. Long, steady power run. Trail mix of hills, rocks, roots and pickers. Watch out for bikes at your back. Miles and miles of hilly rugged trails! A trail marathon style run on the famous Pottowatami trail. Watch road crossings at the start and end. Clean</span></span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg 5. Purgatory (White): Distance: 5.4</span></b><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Half Moon Lake. Finish: Hell Creek Ranch</span></b><br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Cross: 2. You do not go to hell this year just near it. Same old Potto but more dirt roads and horse freshener. Kelly Rd. jumpout goes north. Why are you in Purgatory? Devilish mini golf!?</span><br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><b>Leg 6. This Sucks (Blue) Distance: 5.70<i>.</i></b></span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><b>Start: Hell Creek Ranch W Finish: Pinckney School Ranch</b></span><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Cross: 1. New exit, runs opposite of Leg 8 from exchange to Post 5. Hard left turn at post 5 heads into resistance running course. Someone will screw this up, will it be you? Continues to get more difficult before easy rail trail finish. Swamps can make it hard to get legs out of the earth. Plain old wicked, only the best get to run it. No truth that the skull in swamp with bullet holes in head is the course designer?</span></span><br><b><i><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Ultra shortcut is in pink, should be gone when you get there.</span></span></i></b><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">.</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><b>Leg 7. Stripper Pole (Pink) Distance: 3.70.</b></span><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Pinckney Elementary School Finish: Hell Creek Ranch E.</span></b><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Cross: 1 Easy except for the Stripper Pole slide and Dirt Ladder 4 pointer climb. New rout after Dirt Ladder. Gets unmarked as fast as we can remark it. Rail to Trail, wicked hill section on former ski-hills then horse trails. From Post 5 to exchange Leg 7 s opposite of Leg 6.</span></span><br><br><br><br><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg 8. Styx, the River of Death (Pink) Distance: 3.25</span></b><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><b>Start: Hell Creek Ranch Finish: Hell Hole</b></span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Wet, wet, wet. Dangerous river rocks that cut. How many, lots and frequent. Deep holes –some. Did I mention wet. Oh by the way it is wet. The path to Hell is the river of death, Styx. Your tormented soul is ours. Life jacket or swim wings optional. If a shoe comes off, just reach into the mud, there are plenty of them in there. Shop in Hell for a souvenir at the party store or I Scream parlor and thank them for letting us trash the town! The store is a good place to mail a postcard for the HELL postmark!</span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg 9. Swoosh (Orange/Black Tiger Stripe) Distance:, 4.1.</span></b><br><b><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Back of Hell Store Finish: Half Moon Lake Beach</span></span></b><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Cross: 1.A bit of everything; tiny bit of road, a bit of less used up-hill trail, a bit of Potto trail, a bit of scenic views, bit by flies. Nice until the last mile, then you tumble into The Abyss; weird if dry, textured if wet. Look for the hard left turn that many missed last year.</span></span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg 10. Where’s The F’N Bridge? (Pink) Distance: 4.6.</span></b><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Half Moon Lake. Finish: Bruin Lake Beach in Campground</span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Cross: 3. Dangerous Boat Crossing: 1.</span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">A classic, our first river crossing in 1999.Nice run until the river, then wicked. Revised post scum movement. Quick sand, quick mud, quick, your ass is stuck! Plane crashed in 1999 during Sunday cleanup just to see where we ran! Nice, undulating trails to the river, (watch for boat traffic!).</span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">Leg 11. Amputation: (Blue)</span> Distance: 1.4</span></b><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Bruin Lake: Finish Bruin Lake</span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Dangerous Road Cross: 0 Course counter clockwise loop. We had to cut the leg short!</span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg 12. Vertigo (Pink) Distance: 3.5.</span></b><br><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start Bruin Lake Beach Finish: Boyce Rd.</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">Couple of nasty downhills that may give you vertigo. Ending is away from parking.</span></span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Portions of nice trail, road, and hill climb, off trail running and a flat ending. Mountain climbs and butt slides in middle. No rivers but some wading through high grass. Open area can be brutally hot.</span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg 13. The Stupid Lake (Pink) Distance: 3.9<i>.</i></span></b><br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Boyce Rd. Finish: Joslyn Lake Rd Bug Pit. <i>No Ultra Shortcut</i></span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Aquatics Running 101 is taught here. In fact, you are in the class. Failure is not acceptable. Who’s stupid? Trail Dog measured the lake with his bike. Many runners lost shoes and finished barefoot, ouch! Not for wimps. One big hill and some great trail!</span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg 14. Don’t Get No Better (Pink) Distance: 2.85 (Every year on the course) .</span></b><br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Joslyn Lake Bug Pit. Finish: Bartell Rd. Hole</span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Shortcut of 2005 is now the course! Good story on name, ask Head Goat or Trail Dog. Hide ripping but tasty raspberries. Good footing, slow if overgrown, very fast if prisoners have cut the grass. Even faster if they are still out there!</span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Leg <span style="font-size:small;">15</span>. Dirt’s Revenge (Blue) Distance: 4.1.</span></b><br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Start: Bartell Rd. Parking Finish: Half Moon Lake</span><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Good tempo run. <span style="text-decoration:underline;">New turns at Hankerd and approaching Crooked Lake Trail</span>. Careful attention to turns as some are sharp, technical and bad time to get off course. Dead Sprint down the Hill to the Finish. Along the beach, team members meet final runner to cross finish together.</span><br><br><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';">Descriptions & Comments brought to you by people who will not use their real names. If you disagree, it is okay and we really, really care. Have a nice day.</span>
 
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