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I would like some input from people who use ellipticals for cross-training.<br><br>
I heard an acquaintance mention that she uses her elliptical trainer for hill workouts.<br><br>
Do all brands give this option, or just some brands? If you are using one that does this, please let me know what you're using.<br><br>
Thanks in advance!
 

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I use it for cross training but i do not think it would be very effective for hill training. Mine has an incline, but it feel easier the higher i put the incline, if that makes sense? I find the stair stepper to be better than the elliptical for hills, but overall, hills are the best training for hills <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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I agree with meri. I use the elliptical a couple of times a week for cross-training, and it does feel 'easier' somehow when the crossramp is higher. It could be b/c it targets the glutes and hammies, bigger muscles, but I don't quite think so. Raising the crossramp on a treadmill feels MUCH different.<br><br>
I like the elliptical but it doesn't feel like as tough a workout as running or the stairmaster. And the step mill (rotating stairs) is an amazing workout if you have one at your gym. I think that would be a good second best to hill training, even if you only briskly walk it. That thing is a monster!
 

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I was hoping to buy just one piece of equipment. <img alt="sad.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad.gif">
 

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sorry <img alt="sad.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad.gif"><br><br>
if you already have a treadmill and want one more piece of equipment, I'd buy a stairmaster next.
 

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I would spend your money on a new treadmill, IMO.<br>
You can have my old stairstepper if you want, it is in the garage. FREE!!!
 

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Really, meri?<br><br>
I might take you up on that. And my DH would road trip to Philly for something free, I think. <b>Vegan Buffet!</b> <img alt="icon_cheers.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/icon_cheers.gif"><br><br>
I want a new treadmill, a recumbent bike machine, a stairstepper and an elliptical! I'm out of control! <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">[<br><br>
I forgot to mention rowing machine. Way out of control.
 

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You can totally have it. I promise. It is not the best machine, but i pounded some good usage out of it. I totally thought it helped with my hill climbs, running and power hiking. You are welcome to it.<br><br>
You should check out craigslist for Philly. <a href="http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/" target="_blank">http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/</a><br>
there is a whole sporting section. It may be a hike, but could be totally worth it. DH has sold some things on Craigslist and it is very easy. I bought the original stepper from Craigslist as well. I took some clothes to the goodwill or some other thrift store near us last year and when i went out back to drop it off, they had a nordictrack elliptical almost identical to the one i have, i almost keeled over. They were selling it for like $50! i paid several hundred.<br><br>
our elliptical and TM were both purchased at Sears. You may want to look into a Sears card, they usually offer good deals. But then, i would just be enabling you some more <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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I would love to have the space to make a home gym, but alas, no basement. What's sad is I have a gym membership--granted, it's at Bally's so not as good as a "real" non-meat market gym, but they have a lot of the standard equipment.<br><br>
Meri, do you use the programmed treadmill hill workouts or make up your own?
 

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My coach gives me workouts for hills. They vary between running workouts and powerhike workouts. Usually the inclines vary from 3-8%. Usually on a setting for 10-15 minutes. For running it is usually 3 mins on an incline running, then 1% for 7 minutes, repeat. But you have to remember that a lot of my training is ultra specific and i have a few mountainous races each year that i train for.
 

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Yes, I knew that.....I am thinking of doing a race this fall that has...ahem.....some very large inclines and am trying to figure out how to do the hill training to build my legs up when we really don't have a ton of hilly trails here--unless I don't know where they are.
 

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The closest you are gonna get is Mount Misery at Valley Forge. What race? [/i]
 

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I'm holding off on saying anything til I am sure I want to do it....old superstition I have.....plus then I look like an ass if I end up not getting in enough training to do it, and I'm still trying to work out my stupid schedule. <img alt="sad.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad.gif"><br><br>
Which part is Mount Misery?? You mean what leads up to the arch?
 

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Mount misery is behind Knox's HQ at VF, down by 252. There are a couple ways to get there.<br><br>
Here it is:<br><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=PA+19406&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=40.093076,-75.458393&spn=0.019206,0.02914&t=k&om=1" target="_blank">Satellite image</a> and you can click to map. There are two ways to access that area. You can take rt 23 (from k of p) to phoenixville, make a left onto rt252, you will go about one mile? and there will be a covered bridge to your right. Make a right there and go thru the bridge (be careful, it is one lane, but two way) and about 1/4 mile on the right is the parking lot at the base of Mt Misery. You can start there and go up, get to the top, then turn around and come back down, OR you can go down the backside, hit the River Trail and make a right and that is a 1.5 non technical trail that will take you around the base back to the covered bridge. At the top of Mt Misery the horseshoe trail splits, you want to stay to the right, not left.<br><br>
Does that make sense?<br><br>
The trails are all technical, some single track, but some not. There are little side trails as well.
 

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Definately my preferred method of cross training - after most marathons - you will see me on the Eliptical the whole week after. I bet I could train on an eliptical for 4 months - do 1 month running(Road ready) and do well in a marathon
 

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When they are covered in deep snow and or ice and I want to run a trail race with a good deal of elevation change in early spring.
 

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I know for me, that using the stairstepper to supplement my hill training, as well as doing hard workouts on the TM with an incline has really been key in improving my ultra race performance, most of which are extremely hilly or mountainous. My coach really likes to have clients control their workouts best with the TM setting the inclines and speeds. It does not replace hills outside, but it is a good way to get more race specific workouts. Also, snow and ice do not help when trying to do hill repeats in the winter <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
The stair stepper has really helped my endurance up the hills more than anything else.<br><br>
 

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Sorry Altoids, something we don't encounter here.<br>
Not too many ellipticals either unless you belong to one of those trendy gyms.<br><br>
Have you thought of riding an exercise bike out of the saddle at various resistances and time frames?<br>
I have used this with some success with people who live in flat areas and want to simulate hill training.
 
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