[Scout7]

Many conservatives accept gays.

 

[bap]

So then its nothing to do with religion or politics. Its to do with ignorance or conditioning.

 

[Scout7]

OK, that works for me. Can we agree then that being accepting or not of sexual orientation is not indicative of political leanings?

 

[muzicgrl]

It seems to have been turned into a VERY political issue lately.

 

[Scout7]

That may be, but that doesn't mean that you can determine a person's political stance based on his or her view of homosexuality.

 

[muzicgrl]

No but you can never determine a persons political stance based on their veiw on a single issue so I fail to see what it has to do with anything.

 

[royboy]

What the Pew Forum should have tried to ascertain was how did the respondent judge their knowledge of the Bible, rather than their religious affiliation. I would bet that those who (honestly) said they know their Bibles would agree strongly that torture is wrong.<br><br>
Because in an earlier poll that the Pew Forum did, the poll showed that the more politically Conservative the respondent was , the admittedly less knowledge of the Bible they had. Bible thumpers don't make for Bible readers/openers.<br><br>
So, this is really about ignorance, lack of education and not being a student of the meta-narrative that they espouse but don't follow.<br><br>
Alex

 

[Scout7]

Because the comment was made earlier that left-leaning people tend to be OK with the whole thing, while right-leaning do not. I was arguing that is not the case, and a generalization that is meaningless.<br><br>
Much like the idea behind the poll in question by the OP.

 

[gumbee]

I know that the OP referenced a survey, but I think that you could replace "church goers" with "American public" and come up with about the same numbers.

 

[bap]

I'd be more than happy to. Just as soon as I see an openly gay evangelical minister or elected Republican representative.

 

[gumbee]

It doesn't happen that often, but I am now completely lost.<br>
What does this have to do with what I posted?

 

[merigayle]

that was my comment. I see a lot of anti-gay sentiment coming from religion and religious teachings and people who think the bible says homosexuality is a sin and is wrong. I was making a point that the Quakers, which is a sect of Christianity, is very open to gay rights and acceptance.

 

[fatmantrying]

Yes, they still attend Church. <img alt="biggrin.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/biggrin.gif">

 

[caffeinated]

If I had taken that survey, I would have been a non-religious white person who said torture is never justified.<br><br>
But they didn't ask the respondents to define torture so you can read what you want into it, I suppose.

 

[APRR Chuck]

i guess you have problems with the term Iglesias too right. filthy frakkin Spaniards. <img alt="roll_eyes.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/roll_eyes.gif">

 

[APRR Chuck]

<img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif"><img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif">

 

[bap]

No smiley required. God is the ultimate authority closely followed by Ronald Reagan. Questioning either condemns you to Hell.

 

[fatmantrying]

<img alt="lol.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/lol.gif"><br><br>
OK, for the record, I don't begrudge religion nor those that follow one in the slightest. I think it can be a very wonderful thing. I myself am a fan/follower of some ancient religious beliefs.<br><br>
I do however loathe what the evil people on this planet do in the name of religion.