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Has anyone used carbo Pro 1200 as their main calorie source during an IM run or stand alone marathon? I have had good luck with Perpetuem on the bike and am looking for some similar 'liquid' calories for the run other than gels, etc. Thanks!
 

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I love Carbo Pro, but I can't handle the 1200. It's not the sweetness, it's the huge influx of carbs, my stomach just can't handle it. The red one is yuck at best and I think it's orange? is tolerable.<br><br>
Better bet is buy the powder and mix it to your strength as needed.<br><br>
JMO<br><br>
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I agree with sheldon that you need to look at the ratio of cabs and water to ensure your stomach is OK--you can get into some trouble with cramping and such if it is too concentrated, but everyone is different
 

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Thanks for the feedback. I have had good luck with Perpetuem on the bike, doesnt taste the greatest but doable. I have found that since they use only complex carbs that I can have a fairly strong carb concentration and it does well. The Carbo Pro 1200 just 'looked' more appealing and I assumed since it was not powder based it may go down easier. Sounds like that may not be the case.
 

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I sell Hammer and spend alot of time doing fueling plans for endurance athletes so I need to declare a bias, but that said, I also use lots of it myself and find it works well for me too.<br><br>
My preference is to mix it thick, about pancake batter consistency and then add a gel to change the taste. For a 6 hour ride I have 2 x 3 hour flasks, one plain Perp and the other flavoured with a gel, usually raspberry or espresso. If you add gel, don't forget to reduce the amount of Perpetuem to account for the calories in the gel.<br><br>
I did two IM last year, one using gels and endurolytes on the run, the other I wore a fuel belt and used flavoured Perp, Endurolytes and gels. I prefer not to wear a FB so in future I'll either switch to gel or carry a flask of Perp in my pocket.<br><br>
Whatever you choose to use, just make sure that you test it well in training, and have a couple of contingency plans for on the day as well.
 

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'Cause it's better to puke in practice than puke in a race!<br><br>
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Thanks for the input. On the bike I usually have it about as thick as a 'protein shake' to get the calories per hour I need. Do you find the pancake batter consistency more desirable on the run than a standard gel? The appeal of the Carbo Pro 1200 was that it was 'liquid' form, and there for could be sipped on the run versus having to swallow anything thicker. Have not tried the thicker Perp on a run, will do a test run.
 

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You can mix it as thick or as thin as you wish. If you mix it thick then don't count it in with your fluid intake.<br><br>
At 62kg (I think thats about 140lb), I find that 1 scoop of Perp plus 1 gel per hour works for me. Sometimes I skip the gel sometimes I take an extra one. I take 2 Endurolytes per hour, as insurance against cramping. If it is hot, then I tolerate slightly fewer calories. I also find that I can't tolerate as much on the run as I do on the bike, but also have now worked out that I don't need as much on the run either. I tend to mix it abit thinner for the run. Or run/walk as its been for me <img alt="blush.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/blush.gif">. Is it more desirable than gel? Well it depends on how the day is going!<br><br>
If you tell me how much you weigh, I'll tell you what <i>I</i> think would be an ideal starting point for testing although it sounds like you already have it sussed.
 

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During IM Wisconsin I had two bottles on the bike of Carbopro mixed to about 900 calories. It seemed sort of like a pancake batter at that point, certainly not liquid. I used it as my only source and had stomach issues around 5 hours on the bike. I felt like I may barf. I did train with the stuff, and it did great in training, but race day you never know what can happen.<br><br>
So I had a fuel belt mixed with carbopro on the run (again pancake), but I tossed it in the garbage can by the football stadium <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> Then stuck with pretzels and bananas and managed not to barf, to my surprise.<br><br>
That point about the carbo 1200 being liquid sounds good, maybe I would do better with it? I'll check it out in the next 2-3 months and let you know. Has a lot of good endorsements.<br><br>
I think where I failed is that I was taking too much of the stuff during each hour, more than I planned. You can easily say take in 500 calories in one hour when you only planned to do 300. So you really need to be careful and even mark the bottle on the side to let you know where you are at, which I didn't do.
 

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Hey, Niemsco, good to see you over here. I carry two bottles each marked into thirds for 6 hours of calories. I personally have found around 370-390 an hour on the bike. I then do Nuun water for fluids, add Enduralytes as needed depending on temp. I then attempt to do around 200 cal/hr on the run but find the second half of the marathon challenging to get anything other than liquids down. Thats why I was intrigued by the idea of 'sipping' Carbo Pro 1200 out of a fuel belt and not having to actually swallow gels or thick perpetuem. As said these go down for about 13 miles then its really tough. Report back if you give it a try, I'll do the same. Sounds like some of the prior posts werent so hot on it but I know these things are very individual.
 
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