[millbot]

The other day someone pointed me to the following post from Coach C on running2win.com:<br><br>
To me this advice rang true, even though I am not a speedster of the sort the coach is talking about.<br><br>
I couldn't find an article with the right title, but I think this is the article the coach was referring to:<br><br><a href="http://runningspot.com/art_runningexercises.php" target="_blank">http://runningspot.com/art_runningexercises.php</a><br><br>
What other advice would you give to masters runners?<br><br>
Speaking of advice, how is the <i>Women Masters Training Manual</i> coming along? I think it is such a cool idea, and you ladies are a perfect group to get it going.

 

[irunmike]

Thanks, millbot! This post is very timely. I'm too stoopid and lazy to analyze the process. I just go out and try to run what I think I can sustain that day for the planned mileage. I began running marathons 2 years ago and after my 4th attempt, I managed to BQ, but it was a struggle. That was in Oct, and since then I had to cut back due to some medical issues. So now I'm on the road to Hopkinton with a serious hit in confidence. Your post though is very helpful. Maybe I shouldn't be trying to max my pace, and instead just build up stamina. Rather than focus on total mile/wk I'm going to try working in some interval/hill/speed work at least once a week, and REALLY try to slow down on the long run. Isn't that the coach's message?<br><br>
BTW, this is CR's mikemustrun. I'm much calmer now since I joined CR near the end of my enforced recovery, hence the name change <img alt="" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/../images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;">

 

[JJJessee]

Thanks Mill, I'm going to try that post run icing thing, It makes sense.<br>
jjj<br><br>
Welcome Mike

 

[millbot]

I'm a big believer in icing, and ice baths in particular.<br><br>
CR animal hermosaboy says three keys to his durability are:
<ul><li>morning recovery or shake-out runs (when running 2x/day)</li>
<li>ice baths after hard or long runs</li>
<li>using the foam roller multiple times per week</li>
</ul>
I haven't tried running 2x/day yet. Askeert.

 

[JJJessee]

Coupla weeks back I got inspired to try some doubles, not long or hard. But they whipped my tail<br>
KS is a doubler<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/notworthy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="notworthy">.<br>
jjj

 

[Tamster]

I've never tried an ice bath . . . . it just sounds so, so cold! I'm more of a hottub gal myself.<br><br>
Of course, the longest run I've ever done is 15 miles, so I don't imagine that 15 miles requires or necessitates an ice bath. Maybe once I get up closer to 20 milers I'll try that out.

 

[Sans Souci]

It isn't. Sorry. I know I was encouraged to take it on, but I'm just not equipped to do such a thing.<br><br>
ETA: Thanks for this, millbot. I'm going to send it to Doug.

 

[mariposai]

Great post millbot. I am afraid to admit that I am one of those who dwells in #1 and by reading this I am challenged to do more speed work for my next quest.<br><br>
I do ice baths at my friend the PT request who is a firm believer in ice baths any time one practice any sport longer than 2 hours.<br><br>
Yes Tammy, after my freezing cold 14 miles run yesterday I took an ice bath instead of a "hot bath". Try it... your muscles will love it.

 

[millbot]

I ran 15 today and took an ice bath. I agree with mariposai that after an effort of 2 hours or more, your body will thank you for it. Put on a sweatshirt, get a cup of hot chocolate, and the latest <i>Running Times</i>. It will be fun.

 

[Econo]

I just can't, can't get into an ice bath. Nope!<br><br>
But the leg speed (early in the season!) tip is a good one and I am doing exactly that. Very short speed sessions once/week.

 

[RunsTheBitterroot]

Thanks Mike, good read. But ice baths? However after a nice trail run stepping into a deep hole in a cold stream is great. Larry

 

[runinbehind]

Thanks, Millbot. All these suggestions ring true for me. I could take them all more to heart. I can attest to the virtue of ice. I haven't run far enough lately to warrant an ice bath, but I ice body parts that I have problems with. I have 3 ice packs in the freezer at all times just for this purpose. Lately it's my hip that gets regular icings.

 

[evryday]

yep, I'm with runinbehind with the ice bags. My knees get 'em, shins get 'em, bottoms of feet get 'em (oh yeah I really like them on the feet!) AT get 'em. And yes my hip has been getting them lately also.<br><br>
Ice, whether it's in bags or baths or a drink<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"> is a wonderful thing.<br><br>
It must work...I've never heard a polar bear complain about muscle and joint pains.

 

[wa5yom]

OK...but the ice bath....gosh...I know it is supposed to help......but I just have not been able to do it....I am sooo cold natured...<br><br>
ANy other way....?<br><br>
Tim,<br>
Ardmore, OK.