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This is probably te 5th or 6th time I've done this race. It's got some hills, and obviously the weather can be cold/windy/snowy or all of the above! Today was cold (maybe 30 degrees) and windy and the snow started around race time but wasn't bad enough to impact the running. Last year I ran well and posted 29:17 for 10th place - the goal this year was to imrove on both of those!<br><br>
As usual, I was running late so I didn't arrive as early as I wanted to in order to get a good warmup. I had enough time to register, run for maybe 10 minutes and off we went. Whenthe race started I was immediately in 5th place - one guy was WAY out ahead which was no surprise, 2 guys were about 30-40 yards ahead after a mile, and another guy was 10-15 yards ahead of me. I was feeling pretty good despite not warming up mch but the first mile felt slow and it was - 5:53 (I was hoping to take advantage of the relatively flat first mile to get closer to 5:40). No problem though since we were heading dowhill - 2nd mile was 5:34 so overall I'm happy with where I was. Shortly after the 2nd mile mark, one of the 2 guys in 2nd/3rd stopped with a stitch or something so now I moved into 4th place, and the 2nd and 3rd place guy were still fairly close to me.<br><br>
Some uphills in the 3rd mile led to a 5:50 but that was OK - I was closing in on the 2nd and 3rd place guys so now all the strategies start rolling through my head. I'm a notoriously slow kicker so I know I need to get a big lead if I want to improve my position. I know the last mile is tough so I try closing the gap before then - I catch up to both guys at once, stay behind them for a few strides, and then go by them. I slowed down to start gathering for the last mile - the 4th mile was 5:21. I still felt pretty good so I decide to wait a few minute and then go with about 4 minutes of running left. I knew there was a hill coming out of this little park - nothing you'd notice in a marathon or earlier in the race, but on a cold windy day when you're running hard, it hurts. I started pushing and took the lead for 2nd place as we headed out of the park. The gap didn't open like I'd hoped - I got maybe 3 yards on one guy, maybe 8 on the other and I knew it wasn't enough. With about 1km to go, I get passed. I tried to go with him but we were now hitting another hill and the wind was picking up and I just didn't have it. OK, 3rd place is good - hold off the guy behind me. No dice - I hear him coming, I push hard, I still hear him coming, I push harder, he goes by me and I'm hoping I'll find some kind of motivation to push even harder since the finish line was less than 200 yards away. No dice - I'm spent so I roll in to the finish in 4th place.<br><br>
I was pleased with my time - 28:36, well under the 29:00 goal I had. I'm pleased my position improved, but that's more a function of who else shows up. I'm not pleased I had no response to getting passed...it's the typical thing for me, lock in a hard pace, maybe improve a little mid-race, but hit the finish line with no gusto or kick. That gives me something to work on in 2008 - I'm a strength runner but I have got to work on my finish!<br><br>
In case you were wondering - this epic battle for 2nd-4th place would have been real exciting if the guy who'd won hadn't smoked us all by 4 minutes!
 

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Yay for PacerChris! I like hearing about what's going on at the front of the pack. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif"> How do you plan on improving your kick?
 

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Nice race Pacer. I told you last night you were sandbagging! WTG on the PR and the 4th OA. Very nice way to start the year. Congrats.
 

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Holy smokes, sounds like a ringer there. 24 for 5 is flying.<br><br>
Great job on the improvement PC. It's amazing you have those wheels with all of the marathoning you do. Keep taking off 40 seconds per year! <img alt="wink.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/wink.gif">
 

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An excellent question and one I've been mulling all day since getting my taint handed to me TWICE in the last half mile!<br><br>
I think what will work for me is working on raw speed, so short intervals (100-400m) and doing hill bounds (10-20 second bursts up hill). I've got strength from tons of base miles and long hill grinders, but I need to work on the bursts of speed.
 

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Wow, you are dayum fast. Congratulations on your 4th OA. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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Wowzers <b>Pacer</b> - I can't even comprehend what you'll be like on these shorter races with more of a kick. You're already pretty dayum speedy.<br><br>
Congrats on the 4th OA, and I'm looking forward to hearing about another great season of pacing & racing from you
 

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Great way to start out the new year! Pretty impressive, blowing away your goal...of course, you are finding things to improve on. A sign of true competitor, in my books, I can only imagine how much you'll continue to improve over the years!<br><br>
I'm still the one who only just laughs when I'm getting out kicked at the finish, it's time for me to kick it up a notch as well.
 

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Chris,<br><br>
You should be proud of this one. Check it out:<br><a href="http://runworks.com/calculator.html" target="_blank">http://runworks.com/calculator.html</a><br><br>
It rates higher than any of the races on your profile, and you've had some good ones. it doesn't sound like like you did it on the easiest of courses or best of conditions either. You might have gotten nailed near the end, but all that dueling helped you to dig down and run big.<br><br>
Well done!
 

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Nice race Pacer Chris. Congrats on your place and time. Speed is a relative word. I always have to gap someone if I hope to beat them. Never could get the leg speed to really sprint. Go with your strengths.<br><br>
cya in a couple weeks
 

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I'm impressed with the contrast in your running: pacing so well to help others achieve marathon goals, and racing hard to achieve your own. Congratulations on another great race, and a super start to the new year!
 

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Congrats on another great race...4OA! Good luck working on the kick. I'm not sure where it comes from. We worked on finishing kick when I was on the track team, back in Jr. HIGH...I must've killed all those brain cells, cause I don't remember how we did it. <img alt="smile.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/smile.gif">
 

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I updated my profile with some more recent times - they all seem to be fairly in line with one another...just means I need to improve them ALL!
 

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Damn. That's some fast! Great start to the new year!
 

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Under 5 minute miles is just sick.<br><br>
But then, I think <b>PacerChris's</b> complaints about lack of kick when he can run 5 miles almost as fast as I can do 5K kind of sick too. <img alt="sad2.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/sad2.gif">
 

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Great racing, Chris! It's fun to hear your thought process as the race unfolded. Racing for 1st and 2nd, or "racing" for 10,632nd, it's all good and adds to the running & racing experience. Congrats on a stellar preformance!<br><br>
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Outstanding job Chris. Even with the lack of a kick in the last 1/2 mile. Did you consider that your fourth mile may have been too fast to have a good kick at the end? To me it sounds as though you couldn't have run a better race.<br><br>
Great report and a great improvement over the previous year.
 

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This is getting repetitive, but...<br><br><img alt="notworthy.gif" src="http://files.kickrunners.com/smilies/notworthy.gif"><br><br>
You da man!!! You never fail to inspire and amaze me!
 

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I sure hope it wasn't a coupla youngins that passed you at the end ...I thought you'd mastered your tripping skillz?<br><br>
Great job PC!
 
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